AUG 2020 WRESTLING DISCUSSION

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The Miz/Big E thing personally screams work that got a bit more real than some people were likely expecting. It was the first Talking Smack of the relaunch and it would be very WWE to try and mimic the most well known moment from the initial version. Miz got switched onto the show instead of Woods a few hours beforehand, Daniel Bryan is right there in the immediate mentions, it all points to how WWE would set things up. 

That said, I take it that Talking Smack is much less scripted (at least for this week) and... let's say some of those involved likely did not expect Big E to take it in the exact direction that he did. Miz seemed like he was working in the "company man but a heel" way while Big E was trying to make an honest legitimate point and it ended up a bit awkward.

[The Natural]

 

[Curt McGirt]

Those two getting along is like a reverse "New Jack and Molly Holly are friends" pairing.

[LoneWolf&Subs]

11 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said:

Leaving these here.  I wonder what she's getting at.

I don’t know, but I’m finding her to be an increasingly overrated as a speaking performer. She’d be better as a news anchor.

[The Natural]

@Niners Fan in CT, Alexa Bliss *SummerSlam Spoiler*

I think Alexa Bliss is referring to SummerSlam as she wasn't involved in The Fiend vs. Brawn Strowman main event because she was part of the build to it and before it at Extreme Rules.

[NikoBaltimore]

Does anybody watch Raw Talk?  If so it any good?  I am heartily amused by Truth and Shayna and wonder if there's more gems on there I might be missing.  It seems like a show that people hardly watch yet lets the wrestlers be themselves.

[LoneWolf&Subs]

1 hour ago, The Natural said:

@Niners Fan in CT, Alexa Bliss *SummerSlam Spoiler*

 

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I think Alexa Bliss is referring to SummerSlam as she wasn't involved in The Fiend vs. Brawn Strowman main event because she was part of the build to it and before it at Extreme Rules.

 

I saw a bit of that. It came off as lame pandering to a very creepy fanbase, and I’m sure what happened recently has reversed their decision involving women in male on female violence. Especially since it’s seemingly inspired by A comic book story where domestic violence is at the center.

Edited August 25, 2020 by LoneWolf&Subs

[steve]

Wait.

So, you're saying WWE had Braun dump Alexa to pander to the "domestic violence" fanbase?

[Technico Support]

Re: Dave and North Korea.  I'm pretty sure he was referencing WCW Collision in Korea, where fans were forced to go to the show and react exactly as told.  I doubt Dave was literally comparing WWE to an oppressive, murderous regime.  Come on, dudes. 

Re: WWF and racism.  They had a three way last night between Black Guy Whose Gimmick is He's Athletic vs Black Guy Whose Gimmick is He's Really Really Dumb vs Asian Ninja Kung Fu Dude.  If you don't think the company has a racism issue from the top down, I don't know what to tell you. 

LOL at WWE giving Keith Lee the Bam Bam Bigelow treatment.  Hire a dude of size, get mad because he's a dude of size, then COVER UP THAT DISGUSTING ADIPOSE TISSUE PAL.  I saw a clip of Lee wrestling in his new gear and he looks so much smaller it's ridiculous.

Edited August 25, 2020 by Technico Support

[LoneWolf&Subs]

34 minutes ago, steve said:

Wait.

So, you're saying WWE had Braun dump Alexa to pander to the "domestic violence" fanbase?

Wait, didn’t the Fiend jamb his fingers down her throat, or did you forget to put your spectacles on?

[clintthecrippler]

13 hours ago, Infinit said:

 This burial by Bully Ray was *chef's kiss*

Conversely, if a dude only has 4 followers...why even bother responding to begin with? It's the "if I am a nobody, then why are you acknowledging my existence" question.

I've curated my Twitter feed and utilized the mute/block functions to make my feed free of drama and trash for the most part, but when it seeps through, it's usually because someone I follow replied to or retweeted a garbage opinion for the sake of call outs and dunks, and 90 percent of the time all that it accomplishes is signal-boosting an idiot or person acting in bad faith.

[AxB]

2 hours ago, steve said:

Wait.

So, you're saying WWE had Braun dump Alexa to pander to the "domestic violence" fanbase?

A rare instance of them catering to the audience they have, rather than the audience they want.

Fun fact: Paul Weller is a life long Labour voter. But when there was a general election at the height of the punk movement, their manager suggested that, as a way to differentiate themselves from the avowedly socialist Clash and professionally anarchist Sex Pistols, they pretend to be Conservatives. Being young and stupid they went along with it. So for years afterwards, people looked at Style Council Weller being in Red Wedge and 90s Weller being all about that Blair and wondered when his political awakening was. Never. He was always awake. But that does explain why Posh idiots at Eton like "Call Me Dave" Cameron decided Eton Rifles was their favourite song in the world, despite the fact that it was literally about what cunts they were.

When I started typing that I had a conclusion that was going to tie it back into Wrestling somehow, but I got interrupted three times and I've completely lost the thread of where it was going. But it took ages to write so I'm not deleting it. Enjoy your random late 70s music story without context. 

[Curt McGirt]

59 minutes ago, AxB said:

But that does explain why Posh idiots at Eton like "Call Me Dave" Cameron decided Eton Rifles was their favourite song in the world, despite the fact that it was literally about what cunts they were.

Or they could just be thick as fuck. Or, even if understanding the subtext, PROUD of it... Probably a combination of all three. 

I had a random thought wondering if the music and gear change was actually Keith's idea, but he's got to be smarter than that. Also, I'm sure that Rusev sat at home watching that and just shook his head. "They didn't even give him a day."

[PetrolCB]

"Eton Rifles" is an all timer.

[Curt McGirt]

I was real happy to hear that for the first time in the 1001 Songs thread on here, having never heard the Jam before for whatever reason (beyond Cheap Trick, power pop is not my forte). Killer song. 

EDIT: Changed video cause the lyrics were totally off

Edited August 25, 2020 by Curt McGirt

[OSJ]

19 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said:

There's something off about Dave. He certainly views the world through a lens that I often find bewildering. 

Try watching sixty hours of wrestling a week for forty years and see what happens...

[Doragon]

Reportedly Lee signed off on to change his theme and WWE wants to move away from CFO$ themes.

Edited August 25, 2020 by D.Z

[RRR]

34 minutes ago, D.Z said:

Reportedly Lee signed off on to change his theme and WWE wants to move away from CFO$ themes.

Amway rent+Thunderdome=Budget cuts. 

[Raziel]

Its actually because CFO$ has an utter shit deal with their punisher and said publisher wouldn't sign off on WWE buying the contract out and bringing CFO$ in house.

[sabremike]

1 hour ago, Raziel said:

Its actually because CFO$ has an utter shit deal with their punisher and said publisher wouldn't sign off on WWE buying the contract out and bringing CFO$ in house.

Seriously that typo is perfect.

[Raziel]

Yup, not fixing that.

[JonnyLaw]

On 8/24/2020 at 12:29 AM, Smelly McUgly said:

The match at Unstoppable against Becky Lynch is also a classic and is my favorite match from the company in the '10s up through 2016. 

Sasha had at least three classics in NXT. Don't give a fuck if she rehearsed them. Randy Savage rehearsed his shit and is one of the three greatest wrestlers of all time.

Come on, clearly the NXT roster had a huge advantage over the main roster because they could rehearse their ppv match, while people on the main roster were too busy being on the road wrestling their ppv opponent on house show loops.

[OSJ]

59 minutes ago, JonnyLaw said:

Come on, clearly the NXT roster had a huge advantage over the main roster because they could rehearse their ppv match, while people on the main roster were too busy being on the road wrestling their ppv opponent on house show loops.

You missed a great opportunity to ask S McU who the other two were... Somehow, he doesn't strike me as someone who liked Jumbo, Misawa, Kawada, or Johnny Valentine... Whoops, that's four... I think Savage makes it into my top 25, barely...

[just drew]

1 hour ago, JonnyLaw said:

Come on, clearly the NXT roster had a huge advantage over the main roster because they could rehearse their ppv match, while people on the main roster were too busy being on the road wrestling their ppv opponent on house show loops.

I'd like it noted for the record that I had nothing to do with this conversation...

[JonnyLaw]

On 8/24/2020 at 3:12 PM, supremebve said:

His black castmates constantly yelled at him for never considering the fact that his life experiences aren't universal.  He went on a show that is basically an exercise in learning about other people's experiences and didn't realize that other people may have different experiences.  With that said, they all became friends by the end.  

From an old GQ article:

”At breakfast one morning, back in 2001, conversation turned to that trusty standby "white people and black people." The Miz let slip that his dad doesn't like to hire black people at his Mr. Hero franchise back in northern Ohio because the inner-city schools there are bad, and black people there are "slow."”