Brian Fowler 13,185 Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, Hail Sabin said: I tapped out on Honor Club when the system wouldn't let me login so I had to use the forgot password just to log in. I did the year long VIP thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alstein 489 Posted January 17 14 hours ago, Oyaji said: They've probably lost a sizable chunk of their audience to the elite split. Now they're best hope for the foreseeable future is trying to maintain their audience from the past two years. I don't think they've lost it yet- I mean, AEW hasn't put anything out yet, and it's not like you can't watch and like both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hagan 1,141 Posted January 17 Yeah - it seems like the doom and gloom for ROH may be a bit misguided. This talent reload is pretty eye opening and ROH has more depth than they've had in a while. My big question is how effective their play for the lucha audience will be. Also, top of the card booking feels stale with the champs. I get why they have the belts but guys like Lethal and the Briscos just feel like relics of a bygone era. They should immediately pull the trigger and shoot some of these new signees to the top of the card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIPPA 29,220 Posted January 17 Per Meltzer - Rush contract is for 1 year, $155,000 deal. He is exclusive to ROH for the US and Ontario market. His CMLL deal expires in 2020. Basically CMLL had to approve any deal Rush was going to sign so he was only ever going to be allowed to sign with ROH Quote Because Paco Alonso had Rush under contract for two more years, he had the power to decide where he was going and had to approve any contract in the U.S. market. Bauer had been in talks with Rush and Alonso about a contract for the U.S. market, which would not have been exclusive for North America, but would have given MLW the right to keep him from going elsewhere. The MLW offer included them agreeing to a number of deal points Rush had asked for, including using his two brothers, Dragon Lee and Mistico, which Bauer would have wanted to push anyway, and some involvement of his father Bestia del Ring, although perhaps not in the ring. Also part of the deal was not just getting him a new working U.S. visa (he had a visa that just expired), which ROH is now working on doing, but also on getting his wife and children U.S. citizenship and they would move to the U.S. Another aspect of the deal was that Bein Sports would use him as an analyst for their Mexican soccer coverage in Spanish so he could break into sports broadcasting. Alonso’s main demand was that he would have the right to use Rush on Fridays and other major dates. MLW was willing to run for the most part on Thursdays and Saturdays, which don’t coincide with major CMLL shows. Which seems to explain Bauer's tweet about "politics getting in the way" of the Mania match against LA Park Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archibald 481 Posted January 17 So CMLL just played around with MLW knowing that they won't agree to that deal anyway? And Bauer thought that CMLL will sign one of their top stars to them instead of their USA partner? Am I the only one who finds this situation a bit weird? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
odessasteps 11,057 Posted January 17 From what I was told, Bestia is not allowed in the US. At this point, of all the Munoz family, I’d actually only miss Dragon Lee in CMLL. It seems Rush is only motivated some of the time (in a way can’t blame him). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyLaw 2,698 Posted January 17 Pretty smart move if his ROH and CMLL contract are both up in a year. He gets more US exposure just in time to be a free agent after AEW is up an running. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Fowler 13,185 Posted January 17 FWIW, ROH ticket sales early this year are looking somewhat down from their last few trips through the same markets and buildings, although if the talent reload takes, they could easily bounce back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archibald 481 Posted January 17 26 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: FWIW, ROH ticket sales early this year are looking somewhat down from their last few trips through the same markets and buildings, although if the talent reload takes, they could easily bounce back. Has anyone collected and posted this data somewhere? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Fowler 13,185 Posted January 17 I read an article a few days ago, but I'll be dammed if I can remember where. Think it came up in my Google recommendations 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Web Conn 2,469 Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Wee Bey said: Juice looks like Lee Marvin in Paint Your Wagon 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hail Sabin 1,125 Posted January 18 Juice looks like he is wearing something Bootsy Collins would wear. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVA 3,600 Posted January 18 Who looks at that man man and thinks, "The best way to use him would be to have him come out and cut a wet blanket promo about how much he loves handshakes?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nice Guy Eddie 19,318 Posted January 18 When I see Juice, I think Drexl Spivey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Fowler 13,185 Posted January 18 6 hours ago, EVA said: Who looks at that man man and thinks, "The best way to use him would be to have him come out and cut a wet blanket promo about how much he loves handshakes?" 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Web Conn 2,469 Posted January 19 I forgot D'Lo Brown had a ROH run Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nice Guy Eddie 19,318 Posted January 19 48 minutes ago, Web Conn said: I forgot D'Lo Brown had a ROH run It was forgettable, as was a lot of the Adam Pearce era. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nice Guy Eddie 19,318 Posted January 19 17 hours ago, Brian Fowler said: While his booking is rather bad, I hope Delirious at least stays in character behind the scenes. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ramo2653 191 Posted January 20 This week's episode featured a burning hammer -> springboard shotgun kick combo which got a 2... It was cool to see Rush though. But then we got Rhett Titus in a thong and oiled up. The Silas/BCB no DQ match was ok. So this show was all over the place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dewar 2,095 Posted January 20 Beer City Bruiser making his way to the ring from the bar, and his new entrance music rule. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alstein 489 Posted January 21 BCB is going to be over again next month in Japan if he goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archibald 481 Posted January 21 21 hours ago, Ramo2653 said: This week's episode featured a burning hammer -> springboard shotgun kick combo which got a 2... My jaw dropped after that sequence of events. Serious candidate for "dumbest shit in 2019" trophy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hail Sabin 1,125 Posted January 21 Also a Top Rope Springboard 450 clothesline to the outside as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caley 2,909 Posted January 22 On 1/21/2019 at 7:13 AM, Archibald said: My jaw dropped after that sequence of events. Serious candidate for "dumbest shit in 2019" trophy. I didn’t really think it was that bad because it wasn’t a headdroppy burning hammer but more of a reverse reverse Attitude Adjustment. It wasn’t particularly nasty or anything so I didn’t find it any more egregious than other things you see on your standard ROH show. I was more upset that Isom won over Facade because Isom is still really bland and undeveloped to me. Also have to give Facade credit for possibly saving Isom’s life on that dive where he was initially out of position. Scary stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
