Wyld Samurai Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Right. I dont see any reason to split them up or change anyones act. Keep them as they are and oush Big E to the main event. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 34 minutes ago, RolandTHTG said: Someone made a similar point before in the PPV thread. But have WWE ever delivered a solid December set of programming and not just done autopilot? Racking my brain here... Jericho's big wins over Austin and Rock in the same night to unify the WWF and WCW titles was in December at Vengeance 2001, which he still references today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Yep, that happened, but rather the quality of TV around that time. Admittedly that's still probably the best example because so much shit happened at the time with face/heel changes and anything was better than the Invasion, so was still worth watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 The then-WWF's December in 1991 was pretty great, both the weekly TV and This Tuesday in Texas. Or is that too far back, and you're only talking WWE-era Decembers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 After tonight's Raw, my new idea for a Big E main event push is to have Strowman put Kofi and Woods on the shelf, then have Big E go after him to avenge his buddies and be the one to decisively beat Braun. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 49 minutes ago, MORELOCK said: Jericho's big wins over Austin and Rock in the same night to unify the WWF and WCW titles was in December at Vengeance 2001, which he still references today. The 98 TV coming off Survivor Series is some of the best WWF TV ever. The 88 programming was very good with the Hogan/Bossman feud did big numbers along with Bad News/Savage. Though to be fair Demolition as faces were not clicking with the Powers of Pain and Warrior was treading water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 It took a while for the Powers of Pain to click as heels. The double turn was executed very awkwardly. You can tell by the crowd reaction they thought it was a face turn for Mr. Fuji rather than a heel turn for the PoP. Warrior didn't really hit his stride until the feud with Rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Warrior didn't really hit his stride until the feud with Rude. It didn't help that Honky Tonk kicked Warrior's ass on TV right after he lost and Warrior was then selling WAY too much against him on the house show rematches. It was basically Asuka getting pushed around by Billy Kay. Armageddon 1999 and 2000 were two very underrated PPVs. HHH/Vince and the forgotten 6-man HITC are at least in the top half of WWE PPV main events. Not to mention December 1999 was a pretty damn great buildup to HHH/Cactus Jack. Now, the Christmas episodes? Yeah. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Honky did come off a long title reign drawing money with everyone. Also Warrior had to learn some basics. I thought Honky got a lot outta him and Warrior made a visible improvement. But you are right, it did not give him any momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 7 hours ago, Wyld Samurai said: Right. I dont see any reason to split them up or change anyones act. Keep them as they are and oush Big E to the main event. Can you imagine if the final four in the Rumble were Woods, Kofi, E and Reigns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 It's like you WANT people to boo Reigns more. Also, hard to believe I've now been watching this stuff for 25 years now. I r old. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 21 minutes ago, Michael Sweetser said: It's like you WANT people to boo Reigns more. Also, hard to believe I've now been watching this stuff for 25 years now. I r old. I feel ya. Coming up on 32 years myself (starting sometime just before Mania 1). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 Just a couple of points for those fantasy booking till Mania 1) As of last reports - Balor wasn't expected to be healthy yet for Mania. So I wouldn't count on any major programs for him. I mean he could pull like the Cena from last year and show up and do a move. Heck - you could probably have him win the Andre Battle Royal since he wouldn't have to do much. But yeah - doubtful he would be in a main event match 2) The plan right now (per the SITEZ~!) is Reigns/Braun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 It never really made sense why the new day were shoehorned as a tag team when they couldve easily been a faction of singles wrestlers and were over as hell. was their domination of the tag team division a way of making them appear successful while at the same time keeping them away from anything meaningful? perhaps wwe saw how over they were and did not want them daniel bryaning their way to the top. i'm just asking questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 They had nothing going on and worked well together, is my guess. Thats not a knock on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 They were three singles wrestlers completely lost in the shuffle before they got together - putting them together and having them doing the exact same thing they were doing before wouldn't have fixed the issue that there was nothing for them to do in their respective roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 unquestionably they werent doing much before they formed. i'm talking about once the act took off. why did they remain a tag team and never get a chance to branch out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Why mess with a winning formula when you're raking in the merch money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 Well I think the argument could have been made that it should have been 2 guys as permanent tag champs, 1 guy as a singles champ while still operating as a unit which has been done plenty of times in wrestling (most recently the Shield) They wanted to do the Freebird rules aspect of it instead which is fine (but of course has now been beaten to death since the New Day run lasted so long and they are promoting the Wyatts as such too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 New Day was certainly over enough to run that angle in the same way that Shield was, but I'm not sure that having the third man as a singles midcard champ would really have done anything to help the act - and it would take away from the midcard guys who could really benefit from holding the singles belt - imagine Miz's recent career year without the use of the IC belt, or what could have been with Rusev as US Champion if they had bothered to do anything with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Why are we acting like they're breaking them up? They really would be foolish to do so. They can still do all these things with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Wyld Samurai said: Why are we acting like they're breaking them up? Cause Paige/ADR haven't done anything in a couple of days and we need something to talk about? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I don't think they ran with Freebird rules because they didn't trust Woods much in ring at first. At the beginning of their run, he was almost always on the third guy on the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarl Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 4 hours ago, JohnnyJ said: Cause Paige/ADR haven't done anything in a couple of days and we need something to talk about? Apparently you missed the long "this is why I love Alberto" post Paige recently made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 It was just the lyrics to Snowblind 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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