Go2Sleep Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 15 minutes ago, RolandTHTG said: They'd make decent coin working as a Batista at Starbucks though. Nice typo/autocorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Maybe they'll announce the TV/title situation at...I don't know...the tournament? Y'all are arguing about alot of assumptions and unknowns. Why don't we let it play out before we get our panties in a bunch?? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 5 hours ago, DTTW said: Math. 8.25×40×52= 17,160 plus benefits. And google says they make 9+ an hour, not 8.25. How is that huge money, especially if a retail job pays better and offers more benefits? Yeah it's more than a hot dog and a coke to wrestle, but 17k is shit pay and it's rather insulting compared to what they would get being on any SAG show. That is only two nights work though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 hour ago, RolandTHTG said: They'd make decent coin working as a Batista at Starbucks though. How much can you make if you work Batista at Starbucks? (Sorta like that Homicide-CM Punk FIP match in a strip club), 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 How grande is a barista's tip? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zev Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 21 minutes ago, Horton Hears a Wooo!!! said: How much can you make if you work Batista at Starbucks? (Sorta like that Homicide-CM Punk FIP match in a strip club), $9.22 an hour, but Schiavone will be right there to call your match! You know you'd want that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 8 minutes ago, zev said: $9.22 an hour, but Schiavone will be right there to call your match! You know you'd want that. So for a Batista match you would get about $1.23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zev Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 35 minutes ago, piranesi said: So for a Batista match you would get about $1.23. Well of course you get a 1 a 2 and a 3, assuming Crockett isn't there to tell of time constraints. Batista isn't a submission specialist. Strike, strike, powerbomb, go home. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 2 hours ago, RolandTHTG said: They'd make decent coin working as a Batista at Starbucks though. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 2 hours ago, Infinit said: Why don't we let it play out before we get our panties in a bunch?? Lol First day on the internet? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 10 hours ago, DTTW said: Math. 8.25×40×52= 17,160 plus benefits. And google says they make 9+ an hour, not 8.25. I know a couple people who work at Starbucks. They aren't getting anywhere close to 40 hours per week. That's laughable. Try like 20 hours a week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Isn't this point kind of moot since - and I'm just throwing this out as wild speculation - the talent that signed the contracts for this tournament and show on the Network presumably looked it over and were told how much they were making? Then, they being adults, make an adult decision and signed with WWE for "pennies"? Yeah, it's a low amount, but ultimately, they knew what they were getting themselves into and they signed on knowing the stipulations of their contract and their salary. It's not like WWE held them at gunpoint and told them to sign this piece of paper, or else. They're going to be featured on a streaming platform that reaches close to 2 million people. Connors/Kidd from 11/26 currently has just north of 17K views on YouTube. Yeah, I'm just sure Joseph Connors is kicking himself for this decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 8 hours ago, DTTW said: First thing that popped up when I googled star bucks pay. Said 9.22. https://www.google.com/search?q=starbucks+pay+rate&oq=starbucks+pay&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0j5j0.6581j0j4&client=ms-android-metropcs-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 Sorry, I thought we were talking about UK guys being paid in GBP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 6 hours ago, PetrolCB said: How grande is a barista's tip? Something something Melina, something something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 45 minutes ago, Casey said: It's not like WWE held them at gunpoint and told them to sign this piece of paper, or else. No they just had Braun Stroman looking over their shoulder as they reviewed the details. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turk128 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Couldn't tell since she put her goddamn Twitter handle right over Roman's face. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 11 hours ago, piranesi said: So for a Batista match you would get about $1.23. Or about $37.50 for a 3 Muskateers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 15 hours ago, Happ Hazzard said: Yeah but you have to work at Starbucks for 40 hours a week. They'll have a lot more days off with WWE. For the limited dates these guys are doing with WWE, 20 grand is good money. It means they can wrestle full-time. Crappy hypothetical math time. Lets say these guys can make $500 a weekend. 500×52+20000=$46,000. Which isn't half bad for office work. Now, if the biggest wrestling company in the world is only offering 20k, are all these smaller places going to get him $500 or more every weekend? Doubtful. And what happens if you can't work due to injuries? So even though they work for the WWE, they'd still probably do better working elsewhere, getting benefits for it, and wrestling on the side. Yes it's not the dream, but when you look closely at the dream, you really have to wonder about it. This company bought the two biggest stars in the world. One got the rocket push and the other is still in developmental, and the pushed guy is getting over a joke charater they just randomly hired. Oh and if you sneeze in front of the boss, well good bye dreams for life. Being on their radar or under their control seems like an utterly arbitrary factor in success there. The current idea seems to be go out and prove you can draw so the WWE can offer you good money to waste your talents and have random guys get better chances than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 "Benefits" isn't that much of an issue in the UK. Most of these guys wouldn't be making be close to making $500 a weekend, every weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 35 minutes ago, DTTW said: Crappy hypothetical math time. Lets say these guys can make $500 a weekend. 500×52+20000=$46,000. By your math even if a talent was getting $500 a weekend (doubtful), their entire net for the year would be $26k. WWE is paying them $20k for two days work. That's 80 percent of what they would typically get in a year. Ole Anderson would give favors all day for that kind of money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintthecrippler Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I am very curious if the $20k number being tossed around is just a downside guarantee. Most talent has a base downside guarantee, with extra money from show bonuses, merch, PPV payoffs (or I guess Network payoffs these days, however those are factored), etc. If someone gets over from the tournament enough to sell some WWE-branded merch, and they start doing more shows with bonuses from those shows, or folks start getting flown over to the U.S. for 205 Live or NXT Takeover, or ends up in a WWE UK DLC video game pack, then there's surely more money coming those guys' way. And again, if WWE loses interest quick and only puts on a few more shows beyond the tournament, the guys make a weekly stipend for a year on top of their regular bookings in places like Progress, ICW, OTT, Rev Pro, and god knows how many other under-the-radar UK indies that would love to throw a couple hundred bucks towards having a "WWE UK" name on their show. And guys can still keep working 20 hours a week at Starbucks between matches as well for a little extra cash too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 2 hours ago, DTTW said: Crappy hypothetical math time. Lets say these guys can make $500 a weekend. 500×52+20000=$46,000. Which isn't half bad for office work. Now, if the biggest wrestling company in the world is only offering 20k, are all these smaller places going to get him $500 or more every weekend? Doubtful. And what happens if you can't work due to injuries? So even though they work for the WWE, they'd still probably do better working elsewhere, getting benefits for it, and wrestling on the side. Yes it's not the dream, but when you look closely at the dream, you really have to wonder about it. This company bought the two biggest stars in the world. One got the rocket push and the other is still in developmental, and the pushed guy is getting over a joke charater they just randomly hired. Oh and if you sneeze in front of the boss, well good bye dreams for life. Being on their radar or under their control seems like an utterly arbitrary factor in success there. The current idea seems to be go out and prove you can draw so the WWE can offer you good money to waste your talents and have random guys get better chances than you. If they work Friday, Saturday and Sunday, they are making 500 before expenses. But another thing to consider is, its decent money for not much work. Also WWE would probably pay them if they were injured on these shows and needed surgery. Which most indies can't. I don't think not working for the new WOS is a giant loss. They can get much better pay for indy bookings. Now I do think WWE are giant cooch bags. Like making 6 million dollar donations to rich people while former talent has to use Gofundme for surgeries. But this sounds pretty good for UK talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 5 hours ago, Peck said: Couldn't tell since she put her goddamn Twitter handle right over Roman's face. Kayfabe, baby. She's protecting the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 hour ago, JohnnyJ said: By your math even if a talent was getting $500 a weekend (doubtful), their entire net for the year would be $26k. WWE is paying them $20k for two days work. That's 80 percent of what they would typically get in a year. Ole Anderson would give favors all day for that kind of money. They also take away some of your abilities to make money while they want to maxamize what they think they can make off of you. I don't think the compensation they are getting for doing that is enough, given how limited the options out there are to make money in wrestling. Would $35,000 have killed the WWE? Not likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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