steve Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 If you divvied up the electoral votes based on the popular votes, wouldn't that just be a straight reflection of the popular vote and a redundancy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I'm less afraid of the orange carney than I am his dog, Pence. Pence is a religo-facist of the highest order. Don't die, Trump! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Now it's coming out that Trump wants to spend more time at his NYC penthouse than at the White House during his presidency. A president who doesn't want to live where most of his work will be located while racking up countless miles on Air Force One and Marine One. Yeah, that's going to be just peachy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 13 minutes ago, Burgundy LaRue said: Now it's coming out that Trump wants to spend more time at his NYC penthouse than at the White House during his presidency. A president who doesn't want to live where most of his work will be located while racking up countless miles on Air Force One and Marine One. Yeah, that's going to be just peachy. The creepiest part of that story was his alleged desire to keep holding rallies. Not only troubling from a historical perspective, but it's an obvious sign that his desire for instant affirmation hasn't been quelled and he'll dictate his policies around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 54 minutes ago, Burgundy LaRue said: Now it's coming out that Trump wants to spend more time at his NYC penthouse than at the White House during his presidency. A president who doesn't want to live where most of his work will be located while racking up countless miles on Air Force One and Marine One. Yeah, that's going to be just peachy. The Obama Family was originally going to split their time between the White House and their residence in Chicago, but they quickly found out that it isn't very feasible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 4 hours ago, Raziel403 said: In a scenario where you split Electoral Votes like that, the winner would be who has the most and not first past the post . That would be more representive of the people. Under that scenario, the vote would go to the House. That's exactly what happened in 1824. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 In regards to where the President lives - remember people used to bitch all the time about W being on his ranch. So Trump being in Manhattan would exactly be unprecedented. A lot might end up being where Barron Trump goes to school. He already is going to a private school in Manhattan. I doubt the Trump's would move him to Sidwell Friends since it is definitely a more liberal school (Sidwell Friends is where Chelsea Clinton went and both Obama daugthers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Maybe Steve Bannon can home-school him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Let him go to Maret. michael kornheiser teaches there, i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 Maybe he can become president for a week and come up with some wicked memes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 10 hours ago, steve said: If you divvied up the electoral votes based on the popular votes, wouldn't that just be a straight reflection of the popular vote and a redundancy? My suggestion is to give each congressional district a vote and the popular election within the district gets that vote. Then the two Senate votes to go the results of the statewide popular vote. That would shake things up a bit and would give a voice to those , for example, Republicans in Eastern Washington, whose voice is otherwise never heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I feel like this argument happens every election cycle. What amuses me is that, for decades and decades, apparently shit was rigged in favor of the elite. Now, Trump wins and suddenly whoever does the supposed rigging in Washington just decide not to this year and it's all fair and balanced. Mere days before the election, my co-workers were talking about how it's all rigged in favor of Hillary Clinton and she'll win, but the night of the election, that all evaporated into thin air and justice has been served, or whatever. Although, I'm still salty about losing my $50 bet with a co-worker about all of this. I'm kind of with Bill Burr on this issue - ain't shit going to change. You can go into Washington as an outsider, but you definitely can't/won't surround yourself with other outsiders. Trump built his campaign on being an outsider to politics, all the while he had people like Chris Christie behind him, and Sarah Palin and Rudy Giuliani as campaign surrogates. I'm not saying the people who believe in Trump are stupid and believe he'll change things, but if the evidence points to it being business as usual come January 21st... I feel completely dirty for saying this, but at least it's not Ben Carson as the President-Elect. It could be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ray Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Tabe said: My suggestion is to give each congressional district a vote and the popular election within the district gets that vote. Then the two Senate votes to go the results of the statewide popular vote. That would shake things up a bit and would give a voice to those , for example, Republicans in Eastern Washington, whose voice is otherwise never heard. Not a bad idea but there's that whole problem of districts being gerrymandered to that includes people of certain races and incomes rather than geographic locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Trump is having his mindblown about how much real work the president has to do. He's not liking this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I completely understand the initial emotion about Trump winning, especially from minorities, immigrants, LGBT, etc. after the way he campaigned, but I don't think that much will change policy wise. Obamacare will be changed but that would have happened the next time a Republican became President, so that's not really Trump-specific. Trump's stamp on things will likely be economy based, for better or worse, but again a lot of it will be things the Republicans already wanted to change. Trump was louder and more crude during his campaign but campaign promises rarely come to fruition in most situations, regardless of who made them. He already has walked back from saying he would abolish Obamacare and he never mentions banning Muslims anymore, he said things to get voters behind him, but I don't think his Presidency will be radically different than past Republican runs. Like I said, I get the gut reaction, mine was similar. Some things are still concerning, like I heard he still plans on doing the occasional "rally" which is weird and shows he plans to somehow keep up the rhetoric to some degree to keep his base voters. But really, he has a very hard uphill battle in 2020 regardless as he barely won the Rust Belt states and I imagine the Democrats will do better next time. So we will see, I am trying to be cautiously optimistic he won't be completely crazy as he has been saying the right things this week since being elected, hopefully it won't be a complete clusterfuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome Miller Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Very surprised to read Kevin's hope for 2020. I'm personally getting a very strong "George McGovern 1972: Party of Acid, Amnesty, and Abortion" vibe from the current Democratic Party. I would fully expect the Dems to tear themselves apart over the next 4-8 years as the Bernie Socialists try to seize control of the party and push for a more radical, left wing agenda and the remaining Establishment and Centrist Democrats push back and try to hang on to power, all while the Republicans continue to control the Senate and House. The Democrats may win the White House in 2020 ala Jimmy Carter and Watergate, but I can see the actual power in Washington remaining with the GOP for the next decade or so as the Democratic Party wanders through the wilderness ala the Walter Mondale/Michael Dukakis years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I don't know about 2020 because I'm not sure of anything anymore. That said, Trump's going into his first term the most unpopular President in modern history. A lot of voters who rolled the dice with him won't give him much slack. I think it's very plausible he'll set a lot of economic time bombs that'll go off under a Democrat successor in four years and four years after that the GOP will get the White House back again. And no one will have learned anything. Of course by then we'll be partially underwater anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 One of the stranger things to come out of this has been a certain sect of MRAs emboldened by the death of beta culture and a return to proper masculinity and femininity. Is it really considered "alpha" to spend so much time dwelling on the successes (or lackthereof, whatever) of other men or the pernicious nature of the "pussy pass?" I understand needing to find motivating self-talk sometimes to get through a set, but Jesus H. Mercy. It's all pretty gross. But I suppose that's just me being a beta. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.K.o.S. Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 That whole MRA mindset is so poisonous. If there were a way to completely wipe it out of your brain I would advise doing that. Like not "they're wrong" but more like "what? never heard of any of that, sorry." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 10 hours ago, (BP) said: I think it's very plausible he'll set a lot of economic time bombs that'll go off under a Democrat successor in four years and four years after that the GOP will get the White House back again. And no one will have learned anything. Of course by then we'll be partially underwater anyway. To your last point, the environmental time bombs he'll set will be far more damaging than the economic ones. Unless he's going to do a U-Turn on being a climate change denier. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 From what I've read, he's already looking at ways to pull the US out of the Paris climate agreement, of which there are two ways and neither seem difficult. Generally, I've been far more optimistic the last 3 years or so of my life but I feel like we could reach the FUBAR level pretty quickly environmentally speaking. It's seriously scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Reince Priebus is the highest ranking member of the White House behind Donald Trump, because Trump just named him Chief of Staff. Steve Bannon is the Chief Strategist. Fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 So, Toady McGopher and Goebbels, Jr.? Loverly... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I suspect we'll see Apprentice-type shenanigans within the first two years of the Trump administration. Because with the team he's putting together, something is going to go wrong badly, and Trump ain't going to fire himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just caught up with Real Time and Maher's joke about the Democrats pulling a Weekend at Bernie with Ruth Bader Ginsburg slayed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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