StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Presumably he wasn't keen on garlic either? As a certified yoga-dance teacher, I have certainly come across people who eat Sattvic diets and I imagine this is a similar thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Plus here's a question: Can you consider yourself straight edge if you take prescription medication for a medical condition? Let's say you're bipolar and need meds to keep yourself in check. Can you still say you're straight edge if you don't drink or do "street" drugs but do take your meds? I had a friend in college who went through this whole ordeal. He was part of my group of friends who were straightedge. He was probably the most into that scene, actually. Anyways, he suffered from depression really badly and dropped out of school and was hospitalized. A few of our friends criticized him for going on his medication. He was apprehensive, too, because of his straightedge code but his mom begged him to go on anti-depressants so he did. And he said the meds were what saved his life and he didn't really care about anyone's opinion on the subject. No one gave him crap after that and we all moved on. I don't know what current day straightedge hardcore is about or if it even really exists anymore. But I would say it's sort of like religion. There are a lot of people who are straightedge and don't really preach about it or anything. They have a pretty firm moral code -- I don't want to drink or do drugs and possibly even restrict my dietary choices, etc. Then there are people who want to put their belief system on others because of some weird personal complex. But it's obviously not a religion where things are written out in a text followed for thousands of years. The original use of the word was the title of a 45-second song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I wonder if Ian Mackaye would have ever thought this song would have led to an evil bad guy wrestler using it to taunt crowds of people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I wonder if Ian Mackaye would have ever thought this song would have led to an evil bad guy wrestler using it to taunt crowds of people. If I was a songwriter, that's exactly what I would have in mind for every song I wrote. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george young Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 It's called "a gimmick". John Tenta wasn't actually a shark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 It's called "a gimmick". John Tenta wasn't actually a shark. Nor was he a fish. Nor an avalanche. He was a man. John Tenta. Never forget. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Was he an earthquake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Was he an earthquake? He rocked my household. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Was he an oddity? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I still love singing "I'm not straight edge" to the chorus of that (amazing) song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ray Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 Dr. Tom is this week's guest. It was ok. I felt like it could have really been more. Felt like a bulk of it was based around his work in developmental and his first start. It really feels like you could probably do like 2 or 3 podcasts with him just for all the places he has been. I didn't realize they had let him go because almost everyone I've heard of who went through the system always seems to have glowing words about how helpful he was for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Weird timing, given jimmy del ray's death, presumably after the pod was recorded. (Not listened yet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I don't know what current day straightedge hardcore is about or if it even really exists anymore. But I would say it's sort of like religion. There are a lot of people who are straightedge and don't really preach about it or anything. They have a pretty firm moral code -- I don't want to drink or do drugs and possibly even restrict my dietary choices, etc. Then there are people who want to put their belief system on others because of some weird personal complex. But it's obviously not a religion where things are written out in a text followed for thousands of years. The original use of the word was the title of a 45-second song. Straightedge is inevitably bullshit posturing on one level or another. Antibiotics, anesthetic, vaccines, nutritional supplements, vitamins, food additives, topical ointments/lotions, and countless other things are all drugs. Toothpaste is technically a drug. Punk's celebrated Gold Bond Powder is a drug. It's practically impossible for anyone in modern society to truly go for their entire life and never use any sort of drugs, because "drug" is just a catchall euphemism for "any foreign chemical product which is consumed by humans but isn't some sort of food". Good for Punk & co. that they aren't hooked on prescription pain pills or steroids or recreational drugs; but don't act like they never get a shot of Novocaine before having a root canal, or never downed a shot of Pepto Bismal to settle an upset stomach, or never ate any food that came out of a can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Ugh. You know EXACTLY what he and others are talking about when they say "drug". Don't be so cantankerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 No, I don't know, because there's no consensus in the straightedge community. Do sleeping pills like Ambien count? Some say yes, some say no. If they don't count, why not muscle relaxers too? If you use painkillers to get through a dental procedure or invasive surgery, why can't you use painkillers to deal with the crippling pain of waking-and-walking injuries... like, say, the kind that are suffered by every pro wrestler ever? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 The best internet arguments are the ones where one party is being willfully obtuse to win it 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Is it really winning though, if 5% of the audience read your argument and think it's genius, and the other 95% read it and think you're an utter imbecile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 God lets just move on before another Colt thread is closed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 The best answer is usually "yes, except when the answer is no." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarl Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Just now listening to the Dr. Tom episode and he's opening by talking about how NXT hasn't really generated any new stars and everybody who's been called up so far have really been FCW guys, like Ambrose, Rollins, and Wyatt, so really FCW was way better and what he did way better than anything NXT has produced so far, so where is his credit? He mentioned Lana as an NXT person, but did not mention Rusev. And how about Neville and Zayn? Granted, they haven't been called up to the main roster yet, but they very obviously are being groomed as the next stars. Were Neville and Zayn in FCW before it became NXT? Not to mention this new crop of Itami, Balor, Owens, Corbin, Kalisto, etc. Obviously a lot of sour grapes there and really stood out as some bitter comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Dr. Tom should be bitter. They let him go and kept that choad Bill DeMott employed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Just now listening to the Dr. Tom episode and he's opening by talking about how NXT hasn't really generated any new stars and everybody who's been called up so far have really been FCW guys, like Ambrose, Rollins, and Wyatt, so really FCW was way better and what he did way better than anything NXT has produced so far, so where is his credit? He mentioned Lana as an NXT person, but did not mention Rusev. And how about Neville and Zayn? Granted, they haven't been called up to the main roster yet, but they very obviously are being groomed as the next stars. Were Neville and Zayn in FCW before it became NXT? Not to mention this new crop of Itami, Balor, Owens, Corbin, Kalisto, etc. Obviously a lot of sour grapes there and really stood out as some bitter comments. He's totally full of shit. Daniel Bryan was an NXT guy who spent about five seconds in FCW. Bryan was already a ten-year veteran at that point, and pretty much wrestled the same way once he debuted on WWE TV, so clearly Dr. Tom didn't teach him a damn thing. Ditto for Cesaro and Luke Harper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Dr. Tom didn't mention Bryan, Cesaro or Harper. His point was most of the developmental guys who broke out developed in FCW and are being paraded around as products of NXT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Where else would they come from? WWE pretty much refuses to ever debut anyone on TV without first sentencing them to months or years in developmental purgatory. And FCW doesn't exist anymore; why the hell would they want to spend any effort in hyping up a dead company? NXT is what they've currently got, it would be bad marketing and name recognition to give credit anywhere else for producing their new stars. And half those "developmental guys" were already seasoned veterans who spent more time on the indies than they did in FCW; how's it fair to claim they're developmental products in the first place? And finally, of course NXT (as a promotion, not the TV show) hasn't produced many new big stars; it's only been around for two years, and the WWE is notorious with keeping their young prospects in developmental for at least that long. Only incredibly rare exceptions like Bryan or Punk manage to get out of developmental jail in less than a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeCaesar Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Prichard's Memphis discussion sort of validated something I've been thinking lately the more territory stories I hear on these podcasts. Memphis wrestling kind of sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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