Matt D Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Casey said: If we had to sacrifice the Dark shows to get Punk back, then so be it. Fuck it, let’s throw in Rampage too, just to make sure Punk sticks around. I wouldn't say I was ever a huge Punk guy. There was a brief point in early ROH I was into him probably because the straightedge stuff appealed. There were specific moments like the Survivor Series team when he was in ECW when he felt like a symbolic element of our internet fandom. Likewise the energy of the pipe bomb promo and what followed. The match that probably resonated the most to me was the Brock match for some reason. Him coming back helped me check out AEW but that was in part because it was can't miss. But man, writing about him for the better part of a year was eye opening. Wrestling had moved on due to the PWG, CHIKARA, and NJPW influences and while there are elements of those I can appreciate, Punk was offering something entirely different, something more minimalist while still being big and weighty. Unfortunately, he probably did a ton to tank his influence across the locker room, but if he's there long enough and lays down enough track with matches on a week to week basis, it could do some good for generations to come. As for tonight, while I really do want a fancam, Claudio vs Pillman, Jr. is way less interesting than Toni Storm vs Billie Starkz II. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 I miss Serena Deeb. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuntmanCrowley Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 3 hours ago, The Natural said: I miss Serena Deeb. I see Deeb and raise you Layla Hirsch and Statlander, through those two are because of if injury whereas I have no idea where Deeb has been. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Hirsch tore her ACL about a year ago, I would think she's close to coming back unless she re-injured something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Deeb is also a coach and producer, so maybe she’s moved back into that role. Hirsch just started in-ring training again in March, and Statlander still isn’t cleared (as of a few months ago - both could be by now and just waiting for the call). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 General question: Who should be the person to end Orange Cassidy's streak? OC's AA/INT title run has quietly turned into one of AEW's best angles. It's like a scaled down version of Taker's Mania streak. Started off innocuous enough, then about 2/3 of the way through it started becoming a huge deal where every match feels like high stakes, and each successive win taking more and more out of them. OC has helped himself a lot with a lot of MOTYC level work in his more recent defenses (particularly the Buddy Matthews match). It's at the point now where you can't just pass the title along, it's going to be mega heat for the next person to beat him. With Callis' sudden turn, my vote is heel Takeshita. I'm not sold on the turn happening so soon, but since it has, this could make the most of it. Callis needs a new guy, and that guy has to actually accomplish something to justify leaving someone booked as strong as Kenny. I think they're missing a lot of potential with babyface Takeshita, but this is a good way to get him to that next level. My second choice would be Swerve, who should have a bigger role than he does and would no doubt be great in that "bi-weekly banger tv match" role. The only thing is I'm not sure if it would be too much system shock if he went from this Rampage-level feud with Keith and Dustin all the way to one of the biggest wins AEW has to offer right now. No doubt he has the ability to pull it off, does TK as a writer? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porksweats Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Go2Sleep said: General question: Who should be the person to end Orange Cassidy's streak? OC's AA/INT title run has quietly turned into one of AEW's best angles. It's like a scaled down version of Taker's Mania streak. Started off innocuous enough, then about 2/3 of the way through it started becoming a huge deal where every match feels like high stakes, and each successive win taking more and more out of them. OC has helped himself a lot with a lot of MOTYC level work in his more recent defenses (particularly the Buddy Matthews match). It's at the point now where you can't just pass the title along, it's going to be mega heat for the next person to beat him. With Callis' sudden turn, my vote is heel Takeshita. I'm not sold on the turn happening so soon, but since it has, this could make the most of it. Callis needs a new guy, and that guy has to actually accomplish something to justify leaving someone booked as strong as Kenny. I think they're missing a lot of potential with babyface Takeshita, but this is a good way to get him to that next level. My second choice would be Swerve, who should have a bigger role than he does and would no doubt be great in that "bi-weekly banger tv match" role. The only thing is I'm not sure if it would be too much system shock if he went from this Rampage-level feud with Keith and Dustin all the way to one of the biggest wins AEW has to offer right now. No doubt he has the ability to pull it off, does TK as a writer? My extremely off the wall guess and this is entirely due to the upcoming All In London show... we're going to complete the story. Anthony Ogogo's dramatic return. Edited May 13, 2023 by porksweats 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobo joe Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 14 hours ago, Casey said: If we had to sacrifice the Dark shows to get Punk back, then so be it. Fuck it, let’s throw in Rampage too, just to make sure Punk sticks around. Counterpoint: Fuck Punk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Results from tonights House Rules in Corbin, KY: Spoiler *Hook(c) def. Ethan Page to retain the FTW Championship *Christopher Daniels & Shawn Spears def. The Boys *Toni Storm def. Billie Starkz *Orange Cassidy & Darby Allin def. Big Bill & Lee Moriarty *Tony Khan appeared in-ring to speak to the crowd. *Powerhouse Hobbs def. Pat Buck with a powerslam. *Claudio Castagnoli def. Brian Pillman Jr. via Giant Swing submission. *FTR(c) def. The Gunns after the Shatter Machine to retain the AEW World Tag Team Championships 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 1 hour ago, hobo joe said: Counterpoint: Fuck Punk Counterpoint: fuck the Young Bucks 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, Casey said: Counterpoint: fuck the Young Bucks Counter-Counterpoint: Fuck 'em both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 37 minutes ago, DreamBroken said: Results from tonights House Rules in Corbin, KY: Reveal hidden contents *Hook(c) def. Ethan Page to retain the FTW Championship *Christopher Daniels & Shawn Spears def. The Boys *Toni Storm def. Billie Starkz *Orange Cassidy & Darby Allin def. Big Bill & Lee Moriarty *Tony Khan appeared in-ring to speak to the crowd. *Powerhouse Hobbs def. Pat Buck with a powerslam. *Claudio Castagnoli def. Brian Pillman Jr. via Giant Swing submission. *FTR(c) def. The Gunns after the Shatter Machine to retain the AEW World Tag Team Championships Those poor bastards didn't get Jarrett. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Matt D said: Those poor bastards didn't get Jarrett. In what you may see as an upgrade, they promoted Hangman as Big Bill’s opponent and they got Orange Cassidy instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 1 minute ago, John from Cincinnati said: In what you may see as an upgrade, they promoted Hangman as Big Bill’s opponent and they got Orange Cassidy instead. The tag match was promoted as is for a while. It's tomorrow where they're still promoting Page vs Bill since it's in VA. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, Casey said: Counterpoint: fuck the Young Bucks Counterpoint: Funk Puck The new hockey innovation....coming to TBS during sweeps week 2023. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porksweats Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 1 hour ago, DreamBroken said: Results from tonights House Rules in Corbin, KY: Hide contents *Hook(c) def. Ethan Page to retain the FTW Championship *Christopher Daniels & Shawn Spears def. The Boys *Toni Storm def. Billie Starkz *Orange Cassidy & Darby Allin def. Big Bill & Lee Moriarty *Tony Khan appeared in-ring to speak to the crowd. *Powerhouse Hobbs def. Pat Buck with a powerslam. *Claudio Castagnoli def. Brian Pillman Jr. via Giant Swing submission. *FTR(c) def. The Gunns after the Shatter Machine to retain the AEW World Tag Team Championships The team of Daniels/Spears sounds interesting to me in a way neither man alone sound. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Counterpoint: Fuck Hulk F'n Hogan. Couldn't resist. ;). 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Go2Sleep said: General question: Who should be the person to end Orange Cassidy's streak? OC's AA/INT title run has quietly turned into one of AEW's best angles. It's like a scaled down version of Taker's Mania streak. Started off innocuous enough, then about 2/3 of the way through it started becoming a huge deal where every match feels like high stakes, and each successive win taking more and more out of them. OC has helped himself a lot with a lot of MOTYC level work in his more recent defenses (particularly the Buddy Matthews match). It's at the point now where you can't just pass the title along, it's going to be mega heat for the next person to beat him. With Callis' sudden turn, my vote is heel Takeshita. I'm not sold on the turn happening so soon, but since it has, this could make the most of it. Callis needs a new guy, and that guy has to actually accomplish something to justify leaving someone booked as strong as Kenny. I think they're missing a lot of potential with babyface Takeshita, but this is a good way to get him to that next level. My second choice would be Swerve, who should have a bigger role than he does and would no doubt be great in that "bi-weekly banger tv match" role. The only thing is I'm not sure if it would be too much system shock if he went from this Rampage-level feud with Keith and Dustin all the way to one of the biggest wins AEW has to offer right now. No doubt he has the ability to pull it off, does TK as a writer? Jay White beating OC after beating Starks would legitimize him pretty easily in AEW as a main event level player. Also being from New Zealand just about every matchup possible is international. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Jenalysis said: Jay White beating OC after beating Starks would legitimize him pretty easily in AEW as a main event level player. Also being from New Zealand just about every matchup possible is international. I endorse this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) Steel Cage Matches in AEW feel a big deal in AEW like they used to in WWF/E before Hell in a Cell and the Elimination Chamber stole the spot. Better still, the Dog Collar match with Cody vs. The late great Mr. Brodie Lee, CM Punk vs. MJF and Briscoes vs. FTR in ROH. Gave all three *****. Also how sparingly these stipulation matches are. Cody/Lee in October 2020, Punk/MJF in March 2022 and FTR/Briscoes December 2022. Edited May 13, 2023 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 All I can think of when it comes to Jay White is when a friend of mine said "aioli is just mayonnaise they want you to pay an extra dollar for". I will leave it to you, gentle reader, to decide whether Jay White is the aioli to Adam Cole's mayonnaise or vice versa (or to insult my friend's taste in emulsified condiments as I have on many an evening). That said, having watched both Jay White and Adam Cole for close to a decade I'd rather have guacamole. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 9 hours ago, Raziel said: Counter-Counterpoint: Fuck 'em both. This is the way. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Sparkleface said: All I can think of when it comes to Jay White is when a friend of mine said "aioli is just mayonnaise they want you to pay an extra dollar for". I will leave it to you, gentle reader, to decide whether Jay White is the aioli to Adam Cole's mayonnaise or vice versa (or to insult my friend's taste in emulsified condiments as I have on many an evening). That said, having watched both Jay White and Adam Cole for close to a decade I'd rather have guacamole. This rules. And Ricky Starks is the guac… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Sparkleface said: I will leave it to you, gentle reader, to decide whether Jay White is the aioli to Adam Cole's mayonnaise or vice versa (or to insult my friend's taste in emulsified condiments as I have on many an evening). That said, having watched both Jay White and Adam Cole for close to a decade I'd rather have guacamole. I can't work it out, because Adam Cole is nowhere near as awesome as mayonnaise or aioli. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 16 minutes ago, tbarrie said: I can't work it out, because Adam Cole is nowhere near as awesome as mayonnaise or aioli. My friend has the same feelings about ketchup and chili sauce, if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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