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AEW Dynamite - 1/11/2023


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23 minutes ago, JLowe said:

 

Page vs. Mox was what we wanted and what we expected, and now your 2022 AEW MVP and possible WOTY Mox gets his vacation even though I'm not wild about a fake concussion angle.

 

 

Normally I'd be with you on the injury angle but I feel hear it worked. MOX sold it like he was KTFO, tried to fight either the ref or Doc Sampson (like happens in the UFC when a fighter doesn't know its over) and said "what happened". Hangman and MOX are now One/One. IF hangman is going to be one of the top babyfaces in the company he needed to get his heat back. MOX put him over big and accomplished that

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In hindsight, I think it's weird that any of us actually believed Mercedes would be there. Why on Earth would Bushiroad let her make he post-WWE in ring debut on an AEW show, when they have a sold out show in San Jose in a couple of weeks featuring her vs. KAIRI? 

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39 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said:

So we all agree the funniest thing on this show was Takeshita actually leaving the ring and letting MJF talk that shit for another five minutes, right?

 

37 minutes ago, DEAN said:

He is very polite and listened to the ref.

While Bryan Danielson was twiddling his thumbs backstage.

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9 minutes ago, mystman said:

In hindsight, I think it's weird that any of us actually believed Mercedes would be there. Why on Earth would Bushiroad let her make he post-WWE in ring debut on an AEW show, when they have a sold out show in San Jose in a couple of weeks featuring her vs. KAIRI? 

Because what do they care, the show's already sold out? Because if the San Jose show is still her first match outside of WWE, her being on AEW programming s going to draw more eyes to the show? Invite more potential subscriptions who want to watch Mercedes Mone Match #1 live?

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2 minutes ago, John E. Dynamite said:

Because what do they care, the show's already sold out? Because if the San Jose show is still her first match outside of WWE, her being on AEW programming s going to draw more eyes to the show? Invite more potential subscriptions who want to watch Mercedes Mone Match #1 live?

 What if she gets hurt during the match? I can't imagine them risking it so AEW can get a ratings boost.

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25 minutes ago, GuerrillaMonsoon said:

Mox and a concussion angle? One step closer to the Hobo Army.

John Moxley Lost in Cleveland vignettes? That would be unusual. Pretty WCW.

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54 minutes ago, just drew said:

Also, I still need someone to explain Adam Cole’s appeal to me. I still believe 90% of his popularity can be attributed to being HBK’s “guy” when nXt was at its hottest. 

Just watch him and his buddies play Uno and you’ll like him so much that when the bell rings you literally blissfully blackout temporarily and wake up doing the boom thumb as he’s victorious. 4 *s.

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20 minutes ago, mystman said:

In hindsight, I think it's weird that any of us actually believed Mercedes would be there. Why on Earth would Bushiroad let her make he post-WWE in ring debut on an AEW show, when they have a sold out show in San Jose in a couple of weeks featuring her vs. KAIRI? 

It’s weird that in December Tony Khan would unnecessarily book a mystery tag partner—as challenged by the heels for a match in January (when Mercedes was a free agent) only for it to be a girl on the roster that had been previously involved in confrontations with her. And to then let Britt make the boss references in her promo.

They not only didn’t dissuade fans from thinking that, they leaned into teasing it.

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If Mercedes Moné just made her NJPW debut in Japan, and they announced her first actual match coming up next month (in America) and sold out the building because of it... why would she then have her first post-WWE match as an unannounced mystery partner in AEW? Wouldn't that retcon her NJPW match as false advertising?

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1 hour ago, just drew said:

Also, I still need someone to explain Adam Cole’s appeal to me. I still believe 90% of his popularity can be attributed to being HBK’s “guy” when nXt was at its hottest. 

Adam Cole is a piece of shit, but he's the piece of shit you can appreciate, as Kevin Steen says. I can't really pin down in a simple sentence what Adam Cole's character or gimmick is, other than he's cocky and arrogant cool guy wrestler, but he does it well. He made the whole bay-bay and boom thing work, and that's all he really needed. He's not Adam Cole, he's Adam Cole BAY BAY. He made that his gimmick, and he didn't really need anything else.

 

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1 hour ago, mystman said:

In hindsight, I think it's weird that any of us actually believed Mercedes would be there. Why on Earth would Bushiroad let her make he post-WWE in ring debut on an AEW show, when they have a sold out show in San Jose in a couple of weeks featuring her vs. KAIRI? 

There were still ways for her to appear tonight that wouldn't have been her post-WWE in ring debut.

Although by AEW standards, debuting someone and not having them work a match there for at least 5 weeks (the San Jose show is on February 18th) might be more glacial than some of their more glacial storylines.

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Great show. Hangman/Moxley was epic and lived up to the hype as did Bryan/Takeshita, that was absolutely killer. Thought MJF was actually entertaining despite going a little long but not quite as long as last week's. Hook got to suplex Big Bill! Women's tag was super solid and the main event was a fun car crash and a fitting finale to the long series, I loved the whole best of 7 all the way through.

Dug the Adam Cole return as a true unexpected surprise, hadn't even thought of that happening. Nice welcome back/return promo.

26 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said:

There were still ways for her to appear tonight that wouldn't have been her post-WWE in ring debut.

Although by AEW standards, debuting someone and not having them work a match there for at least 5 weeks (the San Jose show is on February 18th) might be more glacial than some of their more glacial storylines.

I thought they would've done it the same way as Saraya herself debuted with a post-match save for the big pop. (Debuted Sept. 21 but didn't actually wrestle until November 19th)

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I am mildly disappointed that the Takeshita/MJF portion of that segment did not end with Don Callis appearing onstage with an offer to foot the bill for the fine MJF mentioned...and then with Takeshita knocking MJF flat. I understand why it didn't happen that way, but it would've been a fun way to advance the scouting storyline they're doing.

I say this as someone who felt relatively early that Ricky Starks was primed to be a top guy in AEW, but I think his stuff has been uneven since the face turn. Some of that is down to what he's being booked in. But, one show has some great mic work from him against MJF, then another show later...lukewarm. He's not the sole reason his segment on this episode wasn't great, but the hot/cold aspect of what's he's been up to is of some concern. He seemed more comfortable when he was on the heel side of things.

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2 hours ago, Bryan said:

It’s weird that in December Tony Khan would unnecessarily book a mystery tag partner—as challenged by the heels for a match in January (when Mercedes was a free agent) only for it to be a girl on the roster that had been previously involved in confrontations with her. And to then let Britt make the boss references in her promo.

They not only didn’t dissuade fans from thinking that, they leaned into teasing it.

Yeah the lesson here is that you never promote a mystery partner or opponent in a wrestling war unless it’s going to be a big debut. It can be a decent plot device in a monopoly. 
 

Man, Bryan vs Takeshita and Bryan vs bandido, we are going to get a string of five super awesome matchups here. Maybe like the John cena us open challenge in a way? This match is in Fresno too, bandido will be super over and the tickets have actually moved pretty well recently. Should be over 5k which I’d say is really good for a Fresno show. When they announced the show and the momentum was down I thought it would do like 3500. The momentum is coming back a bit. 

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