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Never apologize for this. Douche bags who get onto fans for saying "we" probably had a dad who would say "you know it's all fake, right?" every time wrestling was on.

Usually this sort of criticism is a good sign- it's a sign folks are invested enough to criticize , and are liking the big picture enough to want the smaller stuff to make the big stuff better. It would be a bad thing if AEW was being ignored the way ROH is.

That pretty much sums it up. I think a two page bitch about fans reacting to a babyface moment of authority by a babyface official with a personality (oh no!) is pretty indicative of the kind of weak criticism that too often permeates these AEW threads. And it's all very much to do with the fact that there is so much to enjoy so often whilst watching All Elite Wrestling. It's easy to nitpick and hate. Criticizing gets more attention than praising. People want to find a reason to be heard. I guess you could say the same about the crowd in Miami this past week.

Guy who quit doing his Billy Ray Gyrates act at Dudes-A-Poppin' on artistic principal because straight women kept requesting Old Town Road. He's now rebranding as Cowboy Throb Orton.

No, Raymond Stereo.

I'm not sure that someone who has been shitting on every single WWE show in every single WWE thread for at least a decade has any room to throw that particular stone. You attacked Greggulator until he stopped posting in the RAW threads, solely because he was positively reviewing shows. I believe "pumping sunshine" was your expression. There seems to be a lot of that sort of thing in the AEW threads, too, but I'm not going to join in with the "best show and promotion EVER" talk. I can see flaws in the presentation, so I'm going to point them out. And it isn't out of anger, either - I genuinely want AEW to put on better shows so I can be more entertained.

No, you're thinking of Justin Spirational.

If I was a drinkin' man, I'd be drinkin' a lot.

This seems like a good opportunity to remind everyone that I sure am happy the Bears drafted Mitch Trubisky and not Patrick Mahomes when they had the chance.

Can never stop hearing that in Scooby Doo’s voice.

It's 3:30 in the morning and I'm trying desperately not to laugh as hard as I want to at this so I don't wake up the 20+ angry psych patients at work but this is all *****. Thank you

I had always heard that Sandman thought Sabu was Godzilla and this was apparently at that November to Remember. Now I just found this New Jack story: Now they could be mutually exclusive, I dunno. To make this poignant to the thread, here are some mishaps/occurrences from that N2R match.

My rule of thumb is that if it annoys or pisses off MORELOCK then it's working. You fucking stick in the mud wet blanket motherfucker.

The Chavo Classic.

Martinez is a good shout too, but I think that highly of Tessa and I barely ever watch Impact. Her presence alone is something I haven't seen in a North American woman. Madison Eagles is up there too. I tried to get into Shimmer but the fanbase is too much for me to be fully invested. Same thing with Stardom too.

The person who really surprises me here is Jericho. I once heard him say on his podcast (I wish I could remember which episode) that he gave a referee shit for having too dark a tan and distracting from the wrestlers, which is an insane thing to say. Now his matches are mostly reffed by the official who's getting her name chanted by the fans. That must have been some tan. If I can find a picture, I'll send it to Eric Bischoff and see if it's good enough to go over Hogan.

Uh ... Patrick Mahomes says hold my controller...

Apropos of nothing....Years ago, I had character in a Fire Pro efed named Death Row. After a fairly good heel run, Death Row lost the blow-off to a feud and had to unmask. I decided that "Death Row" was a terrible name for a babyface so I decided to change his name. First step was to change his last name to "Rowe". "Death" was just his nickname. But I couldn't come up with a first name I liked, so I retconned him to be Irish and announced his first name was "Rowan". So his ring name eventually ended up as "Row Rowe". It got worse. Part of the problem with making him Irish was that his heel skin tone gave other players the impression he was biracial. So I had to lighten his skin tone about nine shades to Sheamus-white. Then someone made a "Row Rowe Rowe your boat" joke and I gave him a short-lived boat captain gimmick (he was basically a cross of babyface Norman the Lunatic and Captain Mike Rotunda). I would ask you not to judge me but you totally should. It was a series of bad ideas. A couple of his signature moves had the word "Potato" in the name. Finisher was a lariat briefly called the "Potato Peeler"

Happy returns, R-Truth. Has the knack of making things funny even when saddled with stupid shit.

The other thing with Aubrey is, as she pointed out in her Chris Van Vliet interview, most of the AEW refs are twenty-plus years in the business, whereas she's only like five years in. So a whilst they use the other refs in any match with anyone, they tend to use her when someone like Jericho or Cody is the veteran in the ring. And because the veterans are the main eventers, that makes her the big match ref. It's like on Nitro, if Mike Tenay joins the announcers, you know you're going to see some spectacular moves in the next match. Pro Wrwstling fans are very good at picking up on those subliminal cues that something big is about to happen.

The moment Doolittle hit the schedule in January instead of the holiday season, you had to know it was going to be horrible.

I look forward to the upcoming @OSJ rant about how McGregor is a disgrace to Ireland or whatever.

Apparently the guy who made that AJ Styles jizz inspired TNA shirt is working for WWE now.

Watching Wrestle Kingdom a few weeks ago I was thinking to myself why would anyone want to be in the Final match/Main Event match at Wrestle Mania. The last 2 Manias I struggled to stay up for the Main Event. I know last year was important for the lady's to get to close the show but now that that's done. Why would anyone want to close a show that about 6 hours in total. The Crowd is more so ready for the show to end long before

They already are with Hager, no?

Yeah, looks like Bully is being removed from power. Which I guess now answers the question of "What person in power in RoH was pissing off NJPW to such a degree that they're just telling RoH to go screw", since there's been a NJPW worker announced a day working the Supercard now.

The best thing about KC winning is that the team with the longest SB drought is now... the Jets.

Santa Claus does exist.

"This Kansas City offense isn't quick, it's sudden!" /Jim Ross

Not only was that a FAT MAN TD. It was the FATTEST MAN TD in playoff history The Chefs are starting to find their stroke offensively with two rather easy drives. But it won't matter if the titans have 8 minute drives for points

I enjoy the referees having a personality seeing as how they are vital pieces to the show. I can understand the Rick Knox argument and had I only watched American wrestling I'd be a little confused - but having seen a fair amount of NJPW over the past year and a half plus I've come to realize that AEW treats their refs like NJPW. Each one has their own officiating style which is no different than the NFL, NBA, MLB, ect. Whether it's a strike zone, "letting them play" when it get's a little hectic, anything like that - it's part of their discretion to either allow things to go or stop them. Like when Kenny was attacked by Mox and put through the glass table. A tradition wrestling fan thinks "well why wasn't he DQ'ed" but my line of thinking is more along the lines of "Rick Knox believes Kenny can take the attack and still come back AND doesn't want this big main event to end in a DQ because he understands this is a big show" - similar to bad call ending a game prematurely. Basically what I'm saying is that I like the referees aren't robots and are allowed to have their own "style" or personality when calling a match. Maybe that's not even what they're going for and I'm interpreting it all wrong but I love it.

FWIW, I'm not against Aubrey pushing back against shitheel wrestlers. I vastly prefer that to Rick "I suck so bad at my job that some people are starting to think it's my gimmick" Knox.

They'll be able to re-use this picture in 20 years cuz Truth won't look any different

Working a couple of Indy's as the Ring Announcer/"General Manager", I was told more then once that I was missing out by not having a 8x10 for sale. "You are the only one that is here every show, people like you, sell a picture" I always said no, because I'm not supposed to be the one selling stuff, but I wondered if I was cutting my nose off and missing out.

WWE hasn't had a love crowd in years.

I think one of my favorite things about Walter is that his stuff doesn't look "pretty". Walter is not out there to steal the show, have a moment or put smiles on anyone's face. He's a monster who wants to hurt anyone who dares step up and challenge him. Nothing fancy, nothing over the top, just beating a man down because he wants to WIN. And as much as I love Tyler Bate, let him go visit Pete Dunne in USA NXT or stay here, but keep this man far, far away from the main roster. He's just so damn great and a top notch underdog babyface, but in a Shorty G world(hey,can you imagine THAT match?)he ain't amounting to anything on the main shows

Pennington is a fighter who is neither a great athlete or all that technically proficient. That's a tough draw at this level. She wins fights because she's tougher than her opponent, but it's hard to out tough someone hits you multiple times for every punch you land. We need some Youtuber to make a video with Dave Bautista shopping. Just where does he shop, the reason he decided to pick a particular outfit, everything. I just want to know how and why he makes these decisions.

That was predictably boring. Holly Holm is a fantastic fighter, but isn't very dynamic. Raquel Pennington fights like the woman who gets drunk and beats up dudes in the bowling alley. She's tough as nails, and very good at what she does, but Holly's technique is far too good to lose to that kind of fighter.

Referees SHOULD scold heels for dastardly tactics like the ones Inner Circle engaged in. And the more reprehensible the actions, the larger the scolding should be. It's not Aubrey's fault the fans chose to chant for her(albeit, VERY briefly).

How is he trying to submit a man called the Crochet Master with a scarf hold?

This looks like something you would type into Gameshark for No Mercy.

You do realise this is the company where even the ring announcer has merch, right? Just because something has always been done one way, doesn't mean it always has to be done that way. Besides which, who is the Tommy Young spot supposed to get over, Young or Ric Flair? The thing about the refereeing is, before Dynamite started and AEW was just a PPV company that ran 4 shows in a few months, they were constantly putting over how the refs were doing a great job (because there were no bullshit finishes on the shows). But since TV started, they have started doing referee manipulation spots, outside interference behind the ref's back (sometimes taking ages to set it up Penelope Ford) and guys cheating and not getting DQ'ed in matches that theoretically could end by DQ. So now they aren't talking about how good the refs are any more, except Aubrey seems to be the more protected ref, so she's getting over as the toughest referee. If one ref starts being ultra strict and DQing everyone, doing super fast five counts and that, they might get over as a heel. Like how the fans booed Pac vs Mox going to a draw ages ago.