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48 minutes ago, TheVileOne said:

In other words, he's not adding any meaningful time to the product either. Why sign a guy just to book on AEW Dark?

Because they think it’s worth “x” amount of dollars (whatever Nese is being paid, which nobody here knows) to them to have another respected veteran for all their young guys to work with at that tier of the roster? If they become better wrestlers by working with him, then, in the long run, what he’s doing is meaningful to the company.

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1 hour ago, EVA said:

Because they think it’s worth “x” amount of dollars (whatever Nese is being paid, which nobody here knows) to them to have another respected veteran for all their young guys to work with at that tier of the roster? If they become better wrestlers by working with him, then, in the long run, what he’s doing is meaningful to the company.

So here's a point and a thought exercise to piggyback on this post, now that I'm done being a snarky bitch today.

A point - Practically every roster in the world has had solid veterans who they keep on the roster to work with younger talent. My argument a little while ago is that this seems to be what Nese was brought in to do. The issue with AEW is that they don't have decades of history to draw from, so unlike, say, Tito Santana in late-1980s/early-1990s WWF or Bobby Eaton in late-1990s WCW, where their credibility within the promotion was already established, AEW needed to establish that Nese was a credible wrestler within their own canon, hence he got a match against Sammy Guevara and now he's working Dark with the younger talent. It's going back to the territorial days of bringing in a veteran heel to work with the younger talent, where you have them work an upper card program to establish credibility in the territory, then they're in the prelims for the rest of their tenure.

Now what exactly is wrong with that? If the talent likes working with Nese, and he's off the main TV (aside from being in the crowd, which appears to enrage some people), what is the issue? Who would be better suited for the role? That leads me to my thought exercise.

A thought exercise - Let's say any of you reading this get your wish, and whomever you wanted AEW to sign instead of Tony Nese was signed. But this is a monkey's paw wish, and your desired signee gets the same exact career trajectory that Nese has had (a loss on Rampage to Sammy Guevara, some appearances in the crowd, a promo here or there, but otherwise, he's on Dark and Elevation).

Are you satisfied with this tradeoff? if not, then why exactly should AEW have signed who you preferred over Nese, considering their plans for him?

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13 minutes ago, Stefanie the Human said:

A thought exercise - Let's say any of you reading this get your wish, and whomever you wanted AEW to sign instead of Tony Nese was signed. But this is a monkey's paw wish, and your desired signee gets the same exact career trajectory that Nese has had (a loss on Rampage to Sammy Guevara, some appearances in the crowd, a promo here or there, but otherwise, he's on Dark and Elevation).

As they’re slowly and seemingly building Nese vs Hook, you now have us all imagining the Keith Lee vs Hook match we’re not getting.

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15 hours ago, MoeCristyV.1.6 said:

Surely the sexy time with his hot wife. 

Old but relevant tweet from AEW All Out 2021:

12 hours ago, Casey said:

Fightful is reporting that Cody is a free agent and working without a contract right now while he’s the TNT champion.

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10 hours ago, Casey said:

In other, more heartbreaking free agency news - Peter Avalon is seemingly gone from AEW. Or maybe he’s been bumped down a tier, who knows anymore.

FWIW, Avalon worked the Dark tapings I attended at Universal on Saturday. Which is pretty much what he was doing anyways. 

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8 hours ago, TheVileOne said:

In other words, he's not adding any meaningful time to the product either. Why sign a guy just to book on AEW Dark?

I honestly wonder if signing Neese, Lethal, Atlas, Garcia, ect is to fill out a huge bracket for the Owen

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As you may have already figured, Meltzer says there's most likely nothing to the Cody story.

I really just want to watch my simply booked, old school flavored rasslin in peace without this Russo-ass worked shoot bullshit.

Cody is maybe two months away from burning an Observer on PPV, right?

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Cody said he's never challenge for the World Title while in AEW. His contract expired and he is currently NOT an AEW wrestler. Hmmm....

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I guess we'll be seeing The Butcher a lot more because apparently Keith Buckley went off the deep end and cut of all communication with the rest of Every Time I Die, so Andy and the others have announced a breakup. I was a huge ETID fan for a good while and still think their music rules, but I haven't followed them for the last few years. It's a huge bummer to hear the bad news about Keith, dude always seemed really intelligent and was a great frontman, but from accounts I'm seeing he's cut off not only his longtime bandmates but even his family ☹️

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Anyone know which indy AEW won't let Bryan Danielson work until they (AEW) run the market?

Meltzer mentioned this a few days ago while talking about Moxley returning in GCW.  Apparently, AEW is open to letting talent work indie dates but wants to keep certain matchups and markets for themselves.  Dave specifically mentioned that there's an indy Danielson wants to work with, but can't get AEW's blessing until AEW runs that city.  Tony Khan wants Danielson's first match in that market to happen in an AEW ring.

Dave acted like most people would know what he was talking about without naming names, but I have no clue.  If we're talking first match in that area ever, it's hard to think of any big markets Danielson didn't work before joining WWE.

I assume this means that, if Briscoes-Revival happens, it will be in an AEW ring.

If Moxley's back, it's odd he hasn't been on Dynamite yet.  Or at least been announced for this week's show.  Seems like AEW would/should want Moxley's return match to be in AEW.

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6 minutes ago, Tarheel Moneghetti said:

Anyone know which indy AEW won't let Bryan Danielson work until they (AEW) run the market?

Meltzer mentioned this a few days ago while talking about Moxley returning in GCW.  Apparently, AEW is open to letting talent work indie dates but wants to keep certain matchups and markets for themselves.  Dave specifically mentioned that there's an indy Danielson wants to work with, but can't get AEW's blessing until AEW runs that city.  Tony Khan wants Danielson's first match in that market to happen in an AEW ring.

Dave acted like most people would know what he was talking about without naming names, but I have no clue.  If we're talking first match in that area ever, it's hard to think of any big markets Danielson didn't work before joining WWE.

I assume this means that, if Briscoes-Revival happens, it will be in an AEW ring.

If Moxley's back, it's odd he hasn't been on Dynamite yet.  Or at least been announced for this week's show.  Seems like AEW would/should want Moxley's return match to be in AEW.

Not "first match in that area ever," just first AEW show in that area.  Best guesses are Defy (Seattle area) or PWG (Los Angeles).  Better odds are on it being Defy as AEW would want Danielson's first big hometown pop to happen on one of their shows.

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1 minute ago, Technico Support said:

Best guesses are Defy or PWG.  Better odds are on it' being Defy as AEW would want Danielson's first big hometown pop to happen on one of their shows.

Thanks.  I'm not really familiar with Defy.

Probably not PWG.  Bryan Danielson worked at least several dozen matches in the 2000's and won the PWG title from Chris Hero right before jumping to WWE (he won the title in his farewell match and immediately vacated it).

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26 minutes ago, christopher.annino said:

I guess we'll be seeing The Butcher a lot more because apparently Keith Buckley went off the deep end and cut of all communication with the rest of Every Time I Die, so Andy and the others have announced a breakup. I was a huge ETID fan for a good while and still think their music rules, but I haven't followed them for the last few years. It's a huge bummer to hear the bad news about Keith, dude always seemed really intelligent and was a great frontman, but from accounts I'm seeing he's cut off not only his longtime bandmates but even his family ☹️

Really shitty. Their new one stacks up with anything they've ever put out. Was hoping they worked it out since they played their annual Christmas show in Buffalo, but looking like it's not to be. They've had a great run.

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13 minutes ago, Tarheel Moneghetti said:

Thanks.  I'm not really familiar with Defy.

Probably not PWG.  Bryan Danielson worked at least several dozen matches in the 2000's and won the PWG title from Chris Hero right before jumping to WWE (he won the title in his farewell match and immediately vacated it).

Sure, but the way I read it, Dave just meant that AEW's standpoint is that they want Danielson to make his "post WWE" debut for AEW, not an indy, in this mystery market.  But it's Dave, and he's pretty fucking nebulous, so who knows what he means?

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I don’t think Moxley is on his way back - to me it just seems like a one-off so he can drop the GCW title (since they already said they wouldn’t strip Mox of the title when he went into rehab or whatever it was).

Briscoes vs FTR might happen elsewhere, it’s not on the same level as wanting Bryan Danielson’s first Washington area show to be with AEW instead of an indie. I don’t even think AEW has mentioned the Briscoes war of words with FTR, not to mention they confronted each other at ROH’s “last show”. It’ll either happen in GCW, or at Supercard of Honor in April.

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Just saw the layout for the venue they're running this Wednesday and Friday. From the looks of it, they are going to shoot the shows like the Miami shows. I really love that they aren't married to one specific way to shoot a show.

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