The Man Known as Dan Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Name one person who said that Wyatt was better then Harper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 My mrs theorised at survivor series that Dean Ambrose would sell his soul to Bray Wyatt in return for help winning the WWE Title. It seemed silly at the time but it would've been 10x more interesting than what actually happened. Anything is 10x more interesting than Sheamus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I know, right? He's making me long for the days for the days of Randy Orton, Face of WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I think a brainwashed hot chick is better than a hoss/monster in the wrestling cult stable trope. Fallen angel > Luna/Lock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I kinda expect Bayley to be called up to the main roster as a female Wyatt Family member. I wish I was kidding. I'm not. I won't be surprised at all if creative doesn't know what to do with Bayley, tries to think outside the box, and does something completely asinine that kills her (momentum) dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I think a brainwashed hot chick is better than a hoss/monster in the wrestling cult stable trope. Fallen angel > Luna/Lock. Brainwashed Emma would have looked hot after her main roster failure and her Been Caught Stealing moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Reported from PWinsider.com that ECW cult legend Hack Meyers passed away from complications on a recent brain surgery One last SHAH for the big guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I think Bayley in the Wyatts would be pretty cool actually. I'd love to see what kind of range she has character-wise and I especially want to see her work heel at least once. It sounds more appealing than introducing her as face (who only gets about 10% of the heat she currently does because most of the audience hasn't followed her journey) and feuding with the Bellas for 4 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Was amazed to see Meyers age. Only 43, which made him 23 when this picture was taken: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafkonia Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I'm a huge Bray Wyatt guy but what has hurt him since day one on the main roster is that he's never successfully "converted" a babyface into a family member. Bryan only lasted a week and Strowman just kinda showed up. They abduct Kane and he just sorta goes missing for a while. Then, two years later, they abduct Taker and he... just sorta goes missing for a while. I'm not saying either should be the guy to turn, but it's just a pattern of crappy creative decisions that could've been way cooler and way more important feeling Fuck Taker and Kane, Wyatt couldn't even keep THE MIZ abducted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I'm a huge Bray Wyatt guy but what has hurt him since day one on the main roster is that he's never successfully "converted" a babyface into a family member. Bryan only lasted a week and Strowman just kinda showed up. They abduct Kane and he just sorta goes missing for a while. Then, two years later, they abduct Taker and he... just sorta goes missing for a while. I'm not saying either should be the guy to turn, but it's just a pattern of crappy creative decisions that could've been way cooler and way more important feelingFuck Taker and Kane, Wyatt couldn't even keep THE MIZ abducted. The Miz pulled an MST3K when he was abducted. He happened to have his movies on hand, torturing the Wyatt's with them until they released him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Was amazed to see Meyers age. Only 43, which made him 23 when this picture was taken: According to OWW he was 41.* Which is even more amazing. *Actually two days shy of his 42nd birthday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I also think part of the problem is Bray isn't really allowed to "wrestle" his gimmick much. There is no way he should be anything other then a flat Brawler, and not in the current WWE style of brawler. We need fist fights and blood. You and a couple of others have gotten really, really close to the problem with Bray's booking. No, he really shouldn't care about winning or losing matches, he should be there for two things only: converts and BRINGING THE VIOLENCE. 90% of his matches should end with him being DQ'd for excessively violent shenanigans. Think Kevin Sullivan as "The Master" in SMW (the template is pretty close actually). Did Sully care about winning matches? No, he cared about carving people up with a spike and generally making a nuisance of himself. That's the sort of stuff Bray should be doing. Ain't no buzzards to be following if you aren't leaving a trail of the bloody and broken in your wake. There also needs to be more of an emphasis on expanding the "Family". Take over some bland babyface (yes, Dolph Ziggler would do nicely) and turn them swamp monster before our eyes. It needs to be a long-running deal, not something that's resolved in two or three episodes of RAW. The more I think about it, the more perfect a candidate Dolph seems to be... Have him kidnapped and carried out by Brown Shortsstain and keep him off TV for a month. A month is plenty of time to grow out a scruffy beard and come back looking like Moondog Spot jr. For the gimmick to be meaningful, it has to be someone of Dolph's level and persona. The transformation is thus dramatic and memorable. Adding a female Family member to tempt losing divas to convert would also be aces. Cult leaders expand cults, they don't just randomly show up with one new member a year, that shit doesn't cut it. If the best use of someone involves Dolph Ziggler appearing on my television more, I would like them released immediately to prevent even the possibility of that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Ivelisse Velez said last year that she was originally planned to portray Sister Abigail with the Wyatts and that they filmed promos for it a week or two before she got released. Actually, he has one some of his feuds... kinda. You wanna know how much the WWE gives a shit about someone? Does Bray Wyatt win his feud with you Hell No: Cena, Reigns, Undertaker Sure, why not: Bryan, Ambrose To be fair, while Bray won the last match with Ambrose, Ambrose spent the whole fued pretty much kicking the shit out of Bray. Not just the last match, but almost all of the matches. Survivor Series Bray won by DQ, TLC Bray wins, Street Fight the week after TLC Bray wins again, blowoff Ambulance match Bray wins again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I definitely agree with the worst part of the Wyatt's booking being how weak they always end up looking in their feuds. They don't necessarily have to score the pin every time, but they should be leaving people laying beaten or having to be stretchered out. The issue I have with them abducting and brainwashing other wrestlers is that it's a foregone conclusion that whomever they bring over is going to end up seeing the light and turning on them. The only way I can see something like that working is if they were to go after some relatively new wrestler and drag them away before they had time to really come into their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafkonia Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I definitely agree with the worst part of the Wyatt's booking being how weak they always end up looking in their feuds. They don't necessarily have to score the pin every time, but they should be leaving people laying beaten or having to be stretchered out. The issue I have with them abducting and brainwashing other wrestlers is that it's a foregone conclusion that whomever they bring over is going to end up seeing the light and turning on them. The only way I can see something like that working is if they were to go after some relatively new wrestler and drag them away before they had time to really come into their own. There is a man out there who has the weight of expectation on his shoulders. A man who has always had to listen to other people tell him who he should be. They told him to change his name - he changed his name. They told him to drink the Kool-Aid - he drank it, but it didn't slake the thirst he felt. He tried to take on another man's identity, only to have it ripped away. All these years, trying to live up to a legacy of perfection. Trying to be something he wasn't, someone he wasn't - just because of his family. Well, he has a new family now. Follow the buzzards, and witness the beginning... of the genesis... of the birth... of McGillicutty. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 On the new Winter Palace podcast: Scott Bowden talks Tommy Gilbert's career, Hot Stuff, Bock in Memphis, Dream machine. The bruise brothers funeral, koko/bobby and more. Our Matt D talks Bockwinkel, Dragon Lee v Kamaitachi, Doctor Who, comics and Jessica Jones. Tinyurl.com/winterep19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 how rad would a kayfabe version of lockup raw featuring bray wyatt be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Jim Ross' twitter acct. just issued a "family statement" that he passed away. Waiting for confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenyabaxterZXW Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Jim Ross' twitter acct. just issued a "family statement" that he passed away. Waiting for confirmation. It's been hacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 Yeah - the tweet has already been deleted EDIT - and just to further cement the hoax nature - the "family statement" was originally posted on a UK blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I'm really glad my wife wasn't home this morning to hear me yell "No, no, NO!" while attempting to confirm his death on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Cool. Yeah, I gave that some thought and decided i wasn't sure if i bought it or not. I'm glad i get to hear part 2 of that kevin sullivan interview now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Reported from PWinsider.com that ECW cult legend Hack Meyers passed away from complications on a recent brain surgery One last SHAH for the big guy That sucks. I met him at an ECW show in 98 or 99 when they were at the War Memorial in Ft. Lauderdale. Very nice dude who signed everything and took pics with everyone. I'm going to have to dig up the pic I have now. I was wearing my Outsiders t-shirt and my buddy had on this really cheesy Shawn Michaels t-shirt and Hack and Ballz Mahoney were giving us some lighthearted shit over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Blue Sam Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I think a female Wyatt would need to be someone not features on NXT yet. Part of what made Strowman a decent pick it that we've not seen him trading wins with Corbin or Cassady on TV, he debuted as an unknown quantity. If they have actually signed Nikki Storm, I can see her pulling it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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