Firebreaker Chip Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 truly a degree of nominative determinism not seen in the business since Little Guido Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I liked Scott Hudson, man. He had that Tenay straight man role down pat. If the Bischoff/Fusient sale ever went thru, He and Joey Styles would've been a great pairing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Oh boy, here is the Observer quote: Ratings for WWE RAW disastrous, lowest in almost 20 years By Dave Meltzer | @davemeltzerWON | Nov 24, 2015 2:04 pm There is no way to spin the Monday, 11/23 WWE Raw ratings other than that they were a disaster. The show did 2.95 million viewers, more than 200,000 viewers lower than what had previously been the non-holiday low dating back to 1997 when Raw was losing badly to WCW Monday Nitro. Part of the reason was the NFL's Monday night game featuring the New England Patriots vs. Buffalo Bills that did 14.26 million viewers, which is about two million more than football has been doing in recent weeks but nowhere near a record. It is the first time Raw averaged less than three million viewers since 1997. To make matters worse, this was the day after the Survivor Series event where the WWE heavyweight title changed hands, which usually would lead to at least a strong first hour. In case you needed to be reminded, Sheamus now holds the gold after cashing in his MITB briefcase against five minute champion Roman Reigns. The three hours were: 8 p.m. 3.19 million viewers 9 p.m. 2.99 million viewers 10 p.m. 2.71 million viewers Lol, isn't this the third or fourth time lately Raw has done it's lowest non-holiday rating in x number of years? Quite a pattern of futility they have going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Why is 1997 the baseline? Was their lowest rating ever in '97? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Brother, most shows would kill for Raw's ratings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Brother, most shows would kill for Raw's ratings That doesn't mean they shouldn't be concerned. This time last year they were averaging over 4 million viewers. Now they are under 3 million viewers. That's not good and the pattern is trending downward. How low can it go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Why is 1997 the baseline? Was their lowest rating ever in '97? Pre-1997 ratings don't impress anyone. Vince probably likes to pretend the company didn't get TV until the Attitude Era (it beats admitting he thought the Mantaur gimmick was ready for tv). Brother, most shows would kill for Raw's ratings Sure, but how many of those shows would kill for Raw's ad rates? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Why is 1997 the baseline? Was their lowest rating ever in '97? Pre-1997 ratings don't impress anyone. Vince probably likes to pretend the company didn't get TV until the Attitude Era Damn that Ted Turner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 '97 was the last year before they exploded back into mainstream. I think the bottom was '95, but I'm not positive on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 There were lower ratings pre-97 but they haven't sunk that low (yet). The low in '97 was a 1.9 on March 3, 1997. That show was a taped one from Germany and the last show before they switched to new RAW opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 '97 was the last year before they exploded back into mainstream. I think the bottom was '95, but I'm not positive on that. Figures. WWE's business was the drizzling shits in '95, but then again who wants to see world champion Kevin Nash defend against contenders like Sid and Mabel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I wonder if that's the show Naylor was referring to during his Twitter rant today, where Russo talked to McMahon about how bad things were getting creatively.EDIT: the March 3rd, 1997 show from Germany, to be exact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 '97 was the last year before they exploded back into mainstream. I think the bottom was '95, but I'm not positive on that. Figures. WWE's business was the drizzling shits in '95, but then again who wants to see world champion Kevin Nash defend against contenders like Sid and Mabel? One of those things is not like the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 '97 was the last year before they exploded back into mainstream. I think the bottom was '95, but I'm not positive on that. Figures. WWE's business was the drizzling shits in '95, but then again who wants to see world champion Kevin Nash defend against contenders like Sid and Mabel? One of those things is not like the other. What does Mabel being black have to do with anything? What are you, Big Fresh? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSC Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 '97 was the last year before they exploded back into mainstream. I think the bottom was '95, but I'm not positive on that. Figures. WWE's business was the drizzling shits in '95, but then again who wants to see world champion Kevin Nash defend against contenders like Sid and Mabel? 12 year old me, apparently. I fucking loved Nash's run back then. To be young and dumb again... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 '97 was the last year before they exploded back into mainstream. I think the bottom was '95, but I'm not positive on that. Figures. WWE's business was the drizzling shits in '95, but then again who wants to see world champion Kevin Nash defend against contenders like Sid and Mabel? 12 year old me, apparently. I fucking loved Nash's run back then. To be young and dumb again... I used to have arguments with my brother over who would be Diesel when we play wrestled. I had terrible tastes as a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 EDIT: Mentioned something I missed that was already posted, nevermind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 The rings are built by Mark Carpenter? Is he related to Kay Fabian? Better a mark carpenter than a mark doctor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 All this talk about bottom-scraping WWF years led me to look up some PPV results and I saw some dark matches in '97 with lucha guys. How long was that going on? I know pretty much nothing about the Super Luchas history and this preceeds even that, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldcupfever Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 In response to the Zbyszko "Boo On Me" song in the photo thread. If this has been posted before, I apologize. Well, I apologize anyway after listening to it. https://youtu.be/-s8SbV_iOe4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 That should be made into a Tim and Eric skit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 All this talk about bottom-scraping WWF years led me to look up some PPV results and I saw some dark matches in '97 with lucha guys. How long was that going on? I know pretty much nothing about the Super Luchas history and this preceeds even that, so... WWF & AAA had a relationship in late 96/early 97. Most notable was the 6 man tag at the Royal Rumble. And I think the luchadors were used here and there on tv up until the Lightweight tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I wonder if that's the show Naylor was referring to during his Twitter rant today, where Russo talked to McMahon about how bad things were getting creatively. EDIT: the March 3rd, 1997 show from Germany, to be exact. I doubt it. They didn't just construct a whole new set and elaborate edgy intro in a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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