Kuetsar Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Lost a lot of home playoff games a favorite, is a homophobe, I don't like him, and I don't think he has the resume. He could have 200 wins before he's done. I don't think he's worthy either, but a case will be made, especially if he makes another super bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Take out the gay part, and why do I think you'll try to have the same argument for Peyton Manning in 6-8 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Take out the gay part, and why do I think you'll try to have the same argument for Peyton Manning in 6-8 years? At least Manning's passing and TD's number will be so obscene as to blunt any argument against him. . . Just for the fun of it, I compared Reid's record to Dungy's. Reid has more wins AND playoff wins than Dungy, just no super bowl. I just defended Andy Reid, I need a shower, I feel so dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Wait now Andy Reid's a homophobe too? For a guy who doesn't give much more to the press than injury reports and stock excuses like "gotta do a better job", that's a hell of scoop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I'm going to assume the homophobe comes from his Mormon roots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 oh brother lets not turn the HOF thread into a Holy War... Anyway i really don't see Reid ever making the HOF because sportswriters generally hate the guy due to how boring and secretive he is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I don't take character into account and I don't think anyone should. It's about on-field performance/achievements. With that said, Dungy is not a hall of fame coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I don't take character into account and I don't think anyone should. It's about on-field performance/achievements. With that said, Dungy is not a hall of fame coach. Absolutely agree, not enough wins, and too many playoff chokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Lost a lot of home playoff games a favorite, is a homophobe, I don't like him, and I don't think he has the resume. He could have 200 wins before he's done. I don't think he's worthy either, but a case will be made, especially if he makes another super bowl. Wait now Andy Reid's a homophobe too? For a guy who doesn't give much more to the press than injury reports and stock excuses like "gotta do a better job", that's a hell of scoop... Sorry, my bad, I was still talking about Dungy. As for "argument against Peyton"... No. There is no argument against Peyton Manning as a hall of famer, and anyone who votes against him should be banished to voting for the Baseball HOF instead, because that is clearly their mental level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Peyton and Brady should both get in via unanimous selection on the first ballot, and anyone who doesn't vote for them needs to be locked in a loonie bin for a decade. As for this year's class, I think Strahan and Jones are in for sure. Brooks, Williams and Tim Brown hopefully all get in too, and if they are going to put a punter in, Ray Guy seems like the right guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Just for the record - I think a lot of us are factoring character in not because we care but because in the ass backwards way the NFL HOF process works - they have often brought character into the process. Remember when LT came up Dr. Z was on a crusade to keep LT out or at least not let him in on the first ballot. All because he hated that LT loved the nose candy. I don't like Dr. Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newb82 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Andre Reed had better get in goddamnit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 The whole LT discussion was insane. Yes, the man snorted cocaine and hired hookers. He got caught with an underage streetwalker. Nasty stuff, damn shameful (especially the underage streetwalker saga). But it's separate from him being the most amazingly talented defensive player the league has ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebbie Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 So, people are going to ignore all the shit Dungy does on the site to advocate for the youth? Also, I really can't find myself to care about the HOF when a guy like Ken Stabler isn't inducted because of some petty bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serious Darius Bagfelt Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 So, people are going to ignore all the shit Dungy does on the site to advocate for the youth? Also, I really can't find myself to care about the HOF when a guy like Ken Stabler isn't inducted because of some petty bullshit. Geez and I thought it was because he threw almost 30 more INTs than TDs in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paragon11 Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 So, people are going to ignore all the shit Dungy does on the site to advocate for the youth? Also, I really can't find myself to care about the HOF when a guy like Ken Stabler isn't inducted because of some petty bullshit. Geez and I thought it was because he threw almost 30 more INTs than TDs in his career. Namath has 37 more INTs than TDs in his career, and he's in the HOF because of a guaranteed win in Super Bowl III. If he's deserving, why not Stabler? Hell, why not Plunkett and he's got 2 rings. I think Namath is one of, if not THE most overrated player in Canton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Better question: Joe Namath basically got inducted for a three year window when his knees didn't betray him. So how come based on that logic Terrell Davis isn't going to even sniff Canton until the Veterans Committee MAYBE lobbies him in 15 years from now? Take away Namath's persona and their HoF resumes are nearly identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 TD damn sure would get my vote. One of the best three year stretches in NFL history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Better question: Joe Namath basically got inducted for a three year window when his knees didn't betray him. So how come based on that logic Terrell Davis isn't going to even sniff Canton until the Veterans Committee MAYBE lobbies him in 15 years from now? Take away Namath's persona and their HoF resumes are nearly identical. Davis didn't play in New York and have a gimmick that would rival Ric Flair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Right... Sapp says Strahan doesn’t belong in the Hall of Fame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 If one of those two doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame it isn't Strahan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Here's a weird concept: both deserve to be in the HOF and it's obvious that Sapp is trolling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 If one of those two doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame it isn't Strahan. I disagree with him about Strahan, but Sapp would be my pick if I could only pick one. Warren Sapp is one of the most incredible athletes ever, people his size are not supposed to be that fast. Strahan was a great player, but Warren Sapp was a freak of nature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 The only rationale for Sapp not being in the HOF is if you don't like him on a personal level. And that doesn't hold enough weight. I'm convinced some folks are still upset that bad boy Sapp made it in over good guy Strahan last year when they first became eligible last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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