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I haven't completely given up drinking but I'd say I've cut back 80-85% since September, I'm down 30 pounds and way happier mentally. Glad to see Mox seemingly in a good place right now.

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Some random thoughts on tonight's show:

* Worst AEW crowd ever. Crowd was off all night. Reminded me of Bizarro World Toronto. Crowd sounded low energy and grumpy, like they just got out of bed. On for some stuff, totally random for others. Sounded like they had a sugar run crash and were forced to go onto a football field for a playoff game. Crowd irked me from the opening segment with that dude heckling Moxley and they were on my bad side all night. Also, f-u to that dude heckling Moxley.

* I think Serena Deeb's heel turn is perfect for her and has really livened things up. Finish to that match was perfect. She's really got an edge she was lacking now. I say keep running with her just wrecking women for a while. 

* Mixed tag match was fun action for the most part. 

* Cody's rambling, meandering promo was awful. Why the hell is he talking about all this insider BS like turning heel? It's f'n dumb. So many dumb, stupid spots that went nowhere. It sounded like he was speaking in incoherent gibberish. Like a bad Vince Russo promo. Insider terms and lots of nonsense. Yet another reason why Cody is US Agent/Poochie. If this is Cody's heel turn, he's botching even that. Cody's now a terrible babyface and a terrible heel.

* I do think Acclaimed are a great act, but I think they are just missing those key signature couple wins. Honestly, I would've had them go over Sting and Darby tonight. At the very least, I think beatdown of Sting and Darby early was good. 

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Mox looks fucking great.
Imagine if this means he ups the speed/timing of his matches, even 10% would be huge.
After the House of Black are done with PAC/Penta, I'd love them to fight Mox/Kingston. The depth of the promos would be amazing.

Also Punk going at Mox's issues, after his short run with Kingston, would be too good a chance to miss.
"I'm straight edge and that means I'm better than you".
Then give me Punk/Bryan vs Mox/Kingston.

Yeah...That's the good shit!!

Now, someone highlighted that we aren't seeing a heap of people every week. I... kinda like it.

I'm ok with Bryan taking a bit of time to gather himself and recharge before he comes back for his next program.
I'm ok with Jade sitting back and waiting for a clear #1 contender to emerge.
I'm ok with matches being cut for time and rebooked for a later date.

Having some breathing room around storylines, characters etc is weird after years of WWE "Everyone on every show" booking, but it means we don't have to watch the same people get jobbed or the same 50/50 booking week after week.

AEW isn't perfect but once you get comfortable breaking out of the WWE TV programming, it's way too much fun for me to even try to hate.

It's so good to LOVE pro wrestling again.

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46 minutes ago, L_W_P said:

Also Punk going at Mox's issues, after his short run with Kingston, would be too good a chance to miss.
"I'm straight edge and that means I'm better than you".
Then give me Punk/Bryan vs Mox/Kingston.

Yeah...That's the good shit!!

No.

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And not just because it’s in poor taste. We know how goddamn proud Punk is of Mox. And we’ve only got so much Punk left, he’s their biggest babyface, and Punk’s done that story enough times. I’ve seen it suggested for Punk vs Adam Page too. No: Leave it alone. 

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1 hour ago, John from Cincinnati said:

And not just because it’s in poor taste. We know how goddamn proud Punk is of Mox. And we’ve only got so much Punk left, he’s their biggest babyface, and Punk’s done that story enough times. I’ve seen it suggested for Punk vs Adam Page too. No: Leave it alone. 

Fair comments. I understand if some would see that topic as taboo.

I'll be honest though; I've been a little underwhelmed with Punk.

It's incredible to have him back but I just feel like there should be... more? I guess is the word I'm looking for.

For the most part he's been the pretty happy dude who's just grateful to be back and I kind of want him to really sink his teeth into AEW's roster.

The Kingston stuff was great but it was a short little program.

The MJF stuff has been better so hopefully with what time Punk has left as an active worker, we get more of this and less "Show me what you got kid" respectful Punk.

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I'll have more to say later, but this was one of the worst crowds they've had. You had the really shitty fan at the start, the absolute worst signs ever on the TV side that held them up almost all night that were just dumb inside jokes, being dead silent at times, being really loud at other random times, etc. Maybe not worst crowd... Just the weirdest.

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20 minutes ago, Craig H said:

I'll have more to say later, but this was one of the worst crowds they've had. You had the really shitty fan at the start, the absolute worst signs ever on the TV side that held them up almost all night that were just dumb inside jokes, being dead silent at times, being really loud at other random times, etc. Maybe not worst crowd... Just the weirdest.

I think a lot of those signs were from some guys from an Arsenal podcast,so I got a chuckle out of them the first time but grew old quickly. Was fun seeing Arsenal twitter talking AEW Dynamite this morning though. 

Loved seeing Mox look so good, I'm a recovering gambling addict (19 months sober) so have nothing but respect and love for people handling addiction issues and it's genuinely heartwarming to see it acknowledged and not swept under the rug.

As much as Pillman does nothing for me,it was good to see his multiple flubs from previous Black match called back. Kings of the Black Throne look great to me, just an incredibly interesting aesthetic.

AEW continue to run multiple stories and weave them together in interesting ways (sting & Darby vs acclaimed with Andrade & now Hardy in the wings as an example). It may not always work flawlessly but I appreciate you depth it brings to the product. Everything happening in a vacuum is no fun.

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9 hours ago, HumanChessgame said:

I don't know what to make of that Cody promo. He was just all over the place and I couldn't tell if he was baiting the fans, stroking his ego, trying to go full smark asshole, or what.

I guess the idea was, once he puts a ladder in the ring, everyone knows he's challenging Sammy to a ladder match. So he subverts expectations by talking about anything and everything but that, and the joke is that this massive ladder is sitting there all the while like the elephant in the room. Then he drops in the challenge real quick at the end.

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Not the biggest Mox fan but I was ready to run through a fucking wall after his promo. Great stuff, hope we get G1 Moxley again this year. I also enjoyed Cody’s weird rambling promo. 
 

Sting having this much fun and getting to do so much is the biggest FU to Vince and co. that he can ask for and I’m here for every second of it. 

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8 hours ago, L_W_P said:


It's so good to LOVE pro wrestling again.

this is a sentiment I've been discussing with my buddy.  We've been wrestling fans/best friends for our entire lives, and our fandom was in a lull until AEW.  I'm not blind to the fact that there are issues in AEW, but goddamn it's fun to jsut watch it.  I'm back to actually making sure i watch wrestling programming live weekly for the first time in over a decade because of AEW and it's incredible.  

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11 minutes ago, The Natural said:

Hopefully the piece of shit who heckled Jon Moxley was thrown out and won't be allowed to attend any more AEW events.

I immediately thought of the scene in Casino where they bring the cheaters into the backroom, lol.  Just have that dude brought into a room with Mox.

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8 hours ago, TheVileOne said:

* Cody's rambling, meandering promo was awful. Why the hell is he talking about all this insider BS like turning heel? It's f'n dumb.

It's not really dumb although it was rather incoherent.  It just reminded me of the shit that fathers regardless of race, creed, or natural origin have done since time immemorial when they get into discussions that might turn into arguments and then suddenly they are all like "Before you say another word, let me remind you whose fucking house you're in right now."

It was a weird shoot moment where Cody was addressing the meta of crowds booing him (which he totally shouldn't have done) by reminding people of his role with the company and how hard he's worked to get AEW off of the ground, but it's hard to empathize with that guy in the basketball game that keeps missing shots but constantly reminds you that the reason there is a game is because it's his basketball.

People having heat with him over his self booking doesn't mean that they're also being ungrateful.

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Can someone explain to me, point by point (or as much as possible), what Cody's promo was about? I understand that AEW rewards smart fans and has opened "the forbidden door" but it kind of alienates newer people like myself who are coming back into the fold for the first time in years. If I wanted rambling shooty stuff, I would listen to podcasts.

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Just now, JLowe said:

Can someone explain to me, point by point (or as much as possible), what Cody's promo was about? I understand that AEW rewards smart fans and has opened "the forbidden door" but it kind of alienates newer people like myself who are coming back into the fold for the first time in years. If I wanted rambling shooty stuff, I would listen to podcasts.

Forbidden Door is just working with other organizations you're supposed to pretend don't exist.

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Just now, J.T. said:

Forbidden Door is just working with other organizations you're supposed to pretend don't exist.

That was the only part I understood since it's been mentioned here the last couple of weeks!

Your explanation above my post summed it up pretty well and maybe also why I reacted so negatively to it.

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1 minute ago, JLowe said:

That was the only part I understood since it's been mentioned here the last couple of weeks!

Your explanation above my post summed it up pretty well and maybe also why I reacted so negatively to it.

Oh, you were talking about Cody's "Whose House Is This?" meta stuff.

 

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7 minutes ago, JLowe said:

Can someone explain to me, point by point (or as much as possible), what Cody's promo was about? I understand that AEW rewards smart fans and has opened "the forbidden door" but it kind of alienates newer people like myself who are coming back into the fold for the first time in years. If I wanted rambling shooty stuff, I would listen to podcasts.

One must throw all established laws of AEW nature out the window during a Cody segment. The Codyverse has its own internal logic.

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Paraphrasing here but the best part of Cody’s promo was the line that he “got to do all the stuff punk said he would do (in 2011)” but it would’ve been ten times better if a) he was in a feud with punk b) it was any way relevant at all other than to big himself up. 

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2 hours ago, peterien said:

Paraphrasing here but the best part of Cody’s promo was the line that he “got to do all the stuff punk said he would do (in 2011)” but it would’ve been ten times better if a) he was in a feud with punk b) it was any way relevant at all other than to big himself up. 

Yeah, but Cody said those things in a promo that almost sounded like a shoot.

If I were Punk I wouldn't have been cool with that.  Those were close to being fighting words.  That little ding at Brody King using Brody as his ring name was also kinda suspect and it also missed the point.  Brody King didn't steal his name from Brodie Lee.  Brody King chose his ring name to honor Bruiser Brody. 

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