John from Cincinnati Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jimbo_Tsuruta said: Castagnoli v Danielson in AEW when Why would he fight the soon-to-be consigliere of Bryan's Grapple Boys Inc.? Edited February 24, 2022 by John from Cincinnati 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I always talk about that list TK has to have in his head of people to sign if they're available. Claudio is right at the top of it. At this point it's him, Island Joseph, Richard O'Shay, and Nikki Cross. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, odessasteps said: Bring back Team Uppercut I wonder if Dave Taylor is still working for the WWE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Remember in 2014 when Cesaro won the Andre Battle Royal as part of WM 30 and it felt like we were getting a company that would be focusing on a new vanguard of stars? Legit feels like more than eight years ago. Reigns is the only newer talent from that show that they've capitalized on, and I think capitalized is a stretch considering that he's sub-Nash as a draw or pop culture media presence. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jimbo_Tsuruta Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said: Why would he fight the soon-to-be consigliere of Bryan's Grapple Boys Inc.? Match first, then handshake, consigliereation after. Sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said: Remember in 2014 when Cesaro won the Andre Battle Royal as part of WM 30 and it felt like we were getting a company that would be focusing on a new vanguard of stars? Like I said when I rewatched that, that Andre BR looked like it was supposed to be Sheamus winning but a botch with him and Del Rio accidentally eliminating each other caused Big Show to improv the finish with Cesaro going over. I'm really surprised he lasted this long, especially since he was the infamous "brass ring" comment recipient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 He was apparently only on a one-year extension, which I don't remember being reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFistsJustFlips Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said: Reigns is the only newer talent from that show that they've capitalized on, and I think capitalized is a stretch considering that he's sub-Nash as a draw or pop culture media presence. I think that's a bit off the mark. Reigns is "the man" in the most profitable era in WWE history. And was also in a Fast & Furious movie with The Rock. Nash was "the man" during the lowest money drawing era in the history of WWE. He was not in a Fast & Furious movie with The Rock. While Nash was part of the nWo during the hottest period of the business, he was never really a pop culture guy at all. What media presence did Nash have? Regis & Kathy, just like every other WWE champion? I think Reigns has surpassed that. He does a lot of media and make a wish stuff. Definitely not Cena / Austin / Hogan / Rock pop culture level. But definitely bigger in pop culture than Bret Hart / Shawn Michaels / Kevin Nash. Those are big deals in the wrestling bubble. But hardly any pop culture presence at all. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, just drew said: I always talk about that list TK has to have in his head of people to sign if they're available. Claudio is right at the top of it. At this point it's him, Island Joseph, Richard O'Shay, and Nikki Cross. One of these things is not like the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Claudio is one my favorite guys of the last 20 years, and I’d kill to see the best base in US wrestling this century work with Dante Martin. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, NoFistsJustFlips said: I think that's a bit off the mark. Reigns is "the man" in the most profitable era in WWE history. And was also in a Fast & Furious movie with The Rock. Nash was "the man" during the lowest money drawing era in the history of WWE. He was not in a Fast & Furious movie with The Rock. While Nash was part of the nWo during the hottest period of the business, he was never really a pop culture guy at all. What media presence did Nash have? Regis & Kathy, just like every other WWE champion? I think Reigns has surpassed that. He does a lot of media and make a wish stuff. Definitely not Cena / Austin / Hogan / Rock pop culture level. But definitely bigger in pop culture than Bret Hart / Shawn Michaels / Kevin Nash. Those are big deals in the wrestling bubble. But hardly any pop culture presence at all. Hard disagree. Reigns is almost totally disconnected from profitability. The KSA isn't bringing WWE over in a big-money deal for Reigns. They're bringing the WWE over in a big-money deal for...uh...Yokozuna. And, um...The Ultimate Warrior. Nash, as a formative part of the nWo, should get more credit (though his popularity is diluted since he was part of a group). I don't get the sense that Reigns is well known from non-watchers, so I don't see how you'd place him anywhere but on that Hart/Michaels/Nash line, though I think it's hard to put him over Hart or Nash. Look at it from this angle: WWE's got more media reach and media connections than ever before, including the Rock 'n Wrestling Era, and Reigns is arguably not as popular as Bret Hart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Casey said: One of these things is not like the other. I know Samoa Joe's old but he could still help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
赤い竜 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Double C is going to need someone to talk for him in AEW. Mic skills is his weak spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) Nash may not have been in a F&F movie, but he was in Magic Mike which was HUGE. And he played Tim's dad on Detroiters which was huge for me but probably not for many other people. Edited February 24, 2022 by Log 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Nash was also Super Shredder. Nash playing a washed stripper and Super Shredder > Reigns being the third-most popular pro wrestler in an F&F movie. Reigns is going to need Jason Momoa to retire because Hollywood's the type of place that only has room for one gentleman of Samoan descent with long hair at a time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Good for Claudio Castagnoli standing up for himself and being willing to walk away. The man has literally given nothing but the best years of his life and career to WWE, was always the company man, busted his ass, and given bullshit Vince McMahon "not grabbing the brass ring" nonsense. Literally squandered all of his momentum after WrestleMania 30. Shameful. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, just drew said: I know Samoa Joe's old but he could still help... Just a tick over a year and a half older than Castagnoli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFistsJustFlips Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Log said: Nash may not have been in a F&F movie, but he was in Magic Mike which was HUGE. Long after his wrestling career. To the point where if I bring him up to people outside of the business, they have no idea the Magic Mike guy was ever a wrestler. He *was* in a Ninja Turtle movie. But under a mask and not really publicized to any degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, Blue Dragon said: Double C is going to need someone to talk for him in AEW. Mic skills is his weak spot. Andrade does fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, Blue Dragon said: Double C is going to need someone to talk for him in AEW. Mic skills is his weak spot. Sure, fine, whatever, Regal. The answer is Regal. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, NoFistsJustFlips said: Long after his wrestling career. To the point where if I bring him up to people outside of the business, they have no idea the Magic Mike guy was ever a wrestler. He *was* in a Ninja Turtle movie. But under a mask and not really publicized to any degree. My dad recognized Nash from "the Longest Yard" remake when I was watching the Kliq documentary a few weeks ago. Popped me pretty hard. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said: Just a tick over a year and a half older than Castagnoli. Oh, I know, I'm just refusing to acknowledge the attempt to disparage Nikki Cross... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said: Nash was also Super Shredder. Nash playing a washed stripper and Super Shredder > Reigns being the third-most popular pro wrestler in an F&F movie. Reigns is going to need Jason Momoa to retire because Hollywood's the type of place that only has room for one gentleman of Samoan descent with long hair at a time. Reigns could totally find a nice little movie career as straight-to-VOD Jason Momoa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James F'n X Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 23 minutes ago, Casey said: One of these things is not like the other. Yeah, Ricochet is butts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 For real, TK needs to be moving some shit around to get Claudio in the ladder match or something asap. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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