StarChief EagleDemon Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 After that opening promo, it seems that even the most dastardly of heels can't resist the temptation of getting a few yuks out of a "hilarious" photoshop.
Peck Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 Oh, I forgot, I'm all-in on Marina Shafir just destroying folks in her floppy hat. 2
hammerva Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 i did enjoy the joke on Twitter about seeing Blossom in the RAW Underground was a dark and unexpected turn I am catching up on RAW and I really can't tell if this Demi Burnett is really stupid or just plays really stupid very well. At times she is making Lana look like a Mensa student 1
clintthecrippler Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 13 hours ago, Eivion said: I didn't hate Retribution's attacks this time due to Garza getting the hell out of dodge. That said, this shit just feels like its dragging at this point with so little direction. Last week I did a watch of WCW's big 1990 shows (PPV's and Clashes), which means I got to see the whole Black Scorpion thing play out from start to finish. While the aesthetic is overall different, seeing the Black Scorpion play out in a manner that made it obvious that there was no actual end game for the Scorpion reveal when it started, I'm really starting to get the same vibe from the Retribution thing. Would anyone be surprised if it came out that WWE currently didn't have an actual reveal or end game planned yet?
hammerva Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 it does feel like the list of people who were members of Retribution will be longer than the number of people who were ants in Chikara. Granted all we can really tell from voices but I wouldn't be surprised if nobody has been in multiple segments
odessasteps Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, clintthecrippler said: Last week I did a watch of WCW's big 1990 shows (PPV's and Clashes), which means I got to see the whole Black Scorpion thing play out from start to finish. While the aesthetic is overall different, seeing the Black Scorpion play out in a manner that made it obvious that there was no actual end game for the Scorpion reveal when it started, I'm really starting to get the same vibe from the Retribution thing. Would anyone be surprised if it came out that WWE currently didn't have an actual reveal or end game planned yet? A fun what if is imagining any of the rumor3d candidates Warrior, Jake, ... had actually been the Scorpion.
Niners Fan in CT Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 Black Scorpion build and imagery was WAY BETTER than anything I've seen out of Retribution. 2
odessasteps Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 People often forget how good the ratings were for that Clash.
Doragon Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 Raw ratings went down 2.10 million 1.88 million 1.70 million
Niners Fan in CT Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 2 hours ago, D.Z said: Raw ratings went down 2.10 million 1.88 million 1.70 million Well of course... they were missing a key component. 3 1
Eoae Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 5 hours ago, clintthecrippler said: Last week I did a watch of WCW's big 1990 shows (PPV's and Clashes), which means I got to see the whole Black Scorpion thing play out from start to finish. While the aesthetic is overall different, seeing the Black Scorpion play out in a manner that made it obvious that there was no actual end game for the Scorpion reveal when it started, I'm really starting to get the same vibe from the Retribution thing. Would anyone be surprised if it came out that WWE currently didn't have an actual reveal or end game planned yet? Probably true. Ole claims that he suggested the Black Scorpion angle to Jim Herd as a joke because Herd kept shooting down his (Ole's) serious booking suggestions. In a 1990 issue of the Observer, Dave said he believed that the Scorpion was always going to be the Scorpion. I think that, if it wasn't Flair, the Scorpion would have been the Angel of Death (from UWF). That might have flopped worse than Flair (I feel like the Angel of Death would have pulled off the mask and most of the crowd would have thought "Who's that?")
Ace Posted September 2, 2020 Posted September 2, 2020 The only satisfactory reveal for the Black Scorpion would've been the Ultimate Warrior, which they couldn't deliver. 1
Phil4126 Posted September 2, 2020 Posted September 2, 2020 So, at this point, is there ANY payoff that can come to the retribution story that makes this worthwhile? I've seen names thrown around like Dijakovic, Mia Yim, Chelsea Green, Dio Madden and can't help but think....so? I like all those people but if they are under the hoods then who the hell even cares? When one of them speared a guy during an attack a few weeks ago, had the thought that Roman in charge of them could be interesting but that is clearly out the window. Sami Zayn continuing his "Liberator" shtick with a group of goons to do his bidding to right the wrongs he sees in WWE could be interesting but he seems to be tied up with Jeff Hardy(not that I'm complaining about that). These geeks attack people, they start to chase down Garza and the blonde and.....we don't see anything else? It's clear there is no real plan and we are not advancing the story at all. You want me to give even a little bit of a shit at this point, you got to give me SOMETHING. Otherwise I don't think anyone would complain if these fools went back to Poochie's home planet and were never seen again
Unnatural Posted September 2, 2020 Posted September 2, 2020 I don't remember too many payoffs that were making storylines in the 'E worthwhile, not recently. Rey vs Seth feud (since getting his eye gouged out and returning with an eyepatch on his mask does Rey wrestle any differently than before losing the eye?) Charlotte beat Rhea, but theres more to this story says H. Nope, no there hasn't. She kinda reminds me of Kofi, shrugs off losing the belt and becomes just another wrestler Even before the pandemic, there's other examples. Like Kofi losing the belt. No payoff, just another "happy to entertain the fans" guy like he didn't hold the belt for months
Curt McGirt Posted September 2, 2020 Posted September 2, 2020 10 hours ago, odessasteps said: A fun what if is imagining any of the rumor3d candidates Warrior, Jake, ... had actually been the Scorpion. Another one is if Al Perez didn't quit. I mean, at least Flair was Flair. Al Perez's only fan was probably Gary Hart, and even they had a rough patch.
Craig H Posted September 2, 2020 Posted September 2, 2020 I still don't think they have a clue for where Retribution is going. There's just no way that I can trust they created a clear direction for this group. 1
Ryback Hates Bullies Posted September 2, 2020 Posted September 2, 2020 They cut Retribution out of the Hulu version. They clearly have no idea, and stuck them out there because they haven't committed either way. But there's no win in an Antifa gimmick for anyone, and it's always one call from a sponsor away from getting pulled.
cwoy2j Posted September 2, 2020 Posted September 2, 2020 16 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: Another one is if Al Perez didn't quit. I mean, at least Flair was Flair. Al Perez's only fan was probably Gary Hart, and even they had a rough patch. I still love the batshit story Hart told about Perez' plan to shoot on Flair and take the title in front of the mostly Hispanic audience in South Florida.
NikoBaltimore Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 The more I think about it the more I hate the fact that they split up the IIconics. Peyton will be fine but I worry for Billy Kay who I feel will barely be used much anymore if at all. Odds are she'll be off TV within a month if not sooner. And looking at that reaction video plus their Instagram posts (quoted in Observer's Daily Update page) it seems to have really messed them up. It's a shame because I'll still maintain that if you gave them a sitcom-type show they would have been fantastic. They could have given them a few minutes on a show to do that and I bet it would have taken off. If not that then I'm sure there's many other ways they could have tapped into some comedy gold. But instead they had them off TV for bit, made them more serious and got broken up for their troubles. It just feels very, very wrong to me. 5
Shartnado Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 9:11 AM, Curt McGirt said: Another one is if Al Perez didn't quit. I mean, at least Flair was Flair. Al Perez's only fan was probably Gary Hart, and even they had a rough patch. I'm a little bit of an Al Perez fan, but only know him for his short and rather uneventful stint as a slightly above a jobber, but below an actual JTTS on '89-'90 WWF. That release giant wing -move he got to do on a Conquistador on Prime Time, was a cool-ass finisher, but that's probably way beside the point. Just saying it Gary Hart and me, if only for a little bit.
Craig H Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 Man, maybe I somehow missed it this whole time, but how long has Keith Lee been doing the Tour of the Islands?
Eivion Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Craig H said: Man, maybe I somehow missed it this whole time, but how long has Keith Lee been doing the Tour of the Islands? I'm sure he has been doing it longer, but I only noticed him doing it when he moved up to Raw these past two weeks.
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