Craig H Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 As for an NXT guy winning the Rumble, my idea last year was to push Matt Riddle to the moon and have him be one of the NXT entrants that wins it all, challenges Brock for the title, and beats Brock for the title convincingly and clean. You immediately create a new star that is legit and hotter than the sun. Could you do it again this year? Maybe? Last year would have been more of a surprise, but if it was Riddle or Lee who wins it all, they MUST beat Brock clean and leave no doubt that they are the new man in WWE. I would gladly accept being wrong then if that were to happen. Plus, with either guy, you have an amazing story you could tell across Raw and NXT. What are Riddle or Lee doing to prepare, will matches against Ciampa or Cole injure or derail them, you can show Brock not giving a shit on Raw, etc. I forget who said it, if it was Crockett or Watts or whoever, but you don't need years to create a star, you only need one night. This is WWE we're talking about though. If it were NJPW or Impact or AEW or NWA then I could trust them to see this through, but we've seen WWE miss easy layup after easy layup. They turn the easiest shots into blowing up the Death Star without using the force. It just doesn't happen and when it does, it's exceedingly rare and it's against their plans. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Godfrey Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 I think “it only takes one night” is why people still watch WWE. Any given moment they could push the wrestler you like to the moon. Also at any given moment, they could bury them deeper than a septic tank. Hope springs eternal and all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 I hope they dont do Keith Lee like Ryback, where he got over on his own, they Capitalizes on his momentum, Put him in the Main Event then decided not to pull the trigger on a title win. Ryback wouldve been better off in the upper midcard until they were ready to give him the title. But Vince in particular often books himself into a corner to where he has to go with the new over or go with the current guy you've been trying to establish as the top guy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ziggy said: I hope they dont do Keith Lee like Ryback, where he got over on his own, they Capitalizes on his momentum, Put him in the Main Event then decided not to pull the trigger on a title win. Ryback wouldve been better off in the upper midcard until they were ready to give him the title. But Vince in particular often books himself into a corner to where he has to go with the new over or go with the current guy you've been trying to establish as the top guy Braun, Roman, Seth, Moxley, Bryan, Wyatt, Joe.. I mean, it's really astonishing how often this has happened over the last few years. Ryback is maybe, to me, the most egregious example because of the fact that they booked the thing KNOWING they were going to just have Punk drop it to Rock a couple months later to set up Rock/Cena at Mania. To me this is the the legacy of the Ryback/Punk match: a finish so bad, it was the origin of the R-Truth "lol fuck you we got your money" gif (If I remember correctly; and if I haven't, it was definitely something equally as stupid involving one of the names at the start of my post. The monitor blowing up in Ambroses face?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BrianS81177 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, D.Z said: "Are you sure I can't talk you into getting implants Mickie?" "Mr. McMahon. I'm Bayley" "THAT'S WHAT I SAID DAMN IT!" 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Vince is probably slightly more likely to confuse Bayley with Vickie Guerrero than Mickie James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 11 hours ago, Godfrey said: I think “it only takes one night” is why people still watch WWE. Any given moment they could push the wrestler you like to the moon. Also at any given moment, they could bury them deeper than a septic tank. Hope springs eternal and all. Yep. Punk was doing nothing other than messing around with the New Nexus and terrorizing Randy Orton and his 5 on-screen wives right before he dropped the Pipe Bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 13 hours ago, D.Z said: What is the context on this photo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Just Vince congratulating Bagley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 If you're having an NXT guy win the Rumble, it'd be better to go all out with it. Have some completely new PC graduate (not even on NXT rotation, and ideally not even an indie darling) win the Rumble on their debut and make the storyline Raw, Smackdown, and NXT all saying 'oh shit, we have to get this guy- this guy is clearly the future of the business'), with all three brands trying to break the bank to get this person knowing they'd be sitting on a winning lottery ticket. Go with the "hottest free agent in the business" angle, but actually make them a white-hot free agent without the "yeah, a lot of people know we signed them" style. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 This has to be the most JCP match ever. Jimmy Valiant vs. George South. This is how 7 year old me spent Sat mornings. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, D.Z said: Just Vince congratulating Bagley. Now I'm thinking of Bayley in a bag lady gimmick. Is "homeless person" the only "profession" Titan hasn't had a wrestler use in it? Was the Brooklyn Brawler the closest to that gimmick? EDIT: Hmmm, they never had a fireman or a surgeon (I think, they did have a dental surgeon). Dr. D was a doctor of bounty hunting. Dr. Death was a doctor of pharmaceutical smuggling. Edited December 14, 2019 by Curt McGirt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 This is supposed to be on fite tv tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Comedian Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 17 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: EDIT: Hmmm, they never had a fireman WCW beat them to that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AquariumDrinker Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I watched Guerra de Titanes on a whim last night. What a great show. And I speak very little spanish. The main event was great, and the women's hair vs hair match was just fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffSnackwell Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 12/14/2019 at 4:48 PM, Curt McGirt said: Now I'm thinking of Bayley in a bag lady gimmick. Is "homeless person" the only "profession" Titan hasn't had a wrestler use in it? Was the Brooklyn Brawler the closest to that gimmick? EDIT: Hmmm, they never had a fireman or a surgeon (I think, they did have a dental surgeon). Dr. D was a doctor of bounty hunting. Dr. Death was a doctor of pharmaceutical smuggling. I don't know who you would've cast in the role, but the Brooklyn Brawler should've definitely had a tag team partner called the Hoboken Hobo at some point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Prob the next closest in the wwf was the sanitation engineer. Wrestling Hobo seems like it would have been a good gimmick in the territorial era. Not counting Jimmy Valiant and his "street people." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 wouldn't "Hobo Ken" from Hoboken be a more succinct gimmick? But yeah.. lots of hillbilly gimmicks, but no hobo gimmicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Obligatory DVDVR McMahon's Hobo Army reference. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I forgot about but I guess that's just another hillbilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 12/14/2019 at 2:48 PM, Curt McGirt said: Now I'm thinking of Bayley in a bag lady gimmick. Is "homeless person" the only "profession" Titan hasn't had a wrestler use in it? Was the Brooklyn Brawler the closest to that gimmick? EDIT: Hmmm, they never had a fireman or a surgeon (I think, they did have a dental surgeon). Dr. D was a doctor of bounty hunting. Dr. Death was a doctor of pharmaceutical smuggling. I had a character on one of the WWF N64 games with the gimmick Hobo Sexual, kind of a homeless Val Venis. He had a whole backstory where he was a Rick Rude-esque muscular guy, who put his name and all his money up against my Million Dollar-esque character, lost everything and became a homeless man. Would have fit in great in the Attitude era! 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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