evilwaldo Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Goodear said: I love that Roman Reigns, super great worker who is not super old, has become the worst case scenario including having Brock continue his unbelievably boring intermitant run. My favorite was when smarks cheered Triple H and Vince against him. OH NO, don't give me good matches on a weekly basis. BOO HOO. God if they had just put Braun over. If only. With Stephanie and HHH back, nobody has a shot at going over except for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhock Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Web Conn said: I thought the same thing. I thought AJ should have kicked out of that F-5, it should have taken atleast 2 F-5's to put AJ down . I also thought it should have took like 5 F-5's to take Braun down. There’s a happy medium they could have settled on, which is that Brock could have delivered two F5s in a row before going for a cover. Much like how Cena’s elimination earlier was softened by a finsher spam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Overly Critical Man said: Speaking of Roman...that super Shield triple powerbomb was gnarly. Did they ever use that before? Nope. First time. I was super into their first run, so I'm fairly confident in this answer. Like 95% sure. If you want more certainty than that, I'm sure some people were watching much closer on Tumblr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I swear I remember Rollins and Reigns using a super bomb once as tag champions. Against the Usos at Extreme Rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 6 hours ago, sevendaughters said: Brock-AJ was good. Can't fault Styles' ethic and approach. He makes it feel real and good. I think Brock's general standing is falling and it should be approaching time where someone beats him clean for the rub. Flair-Bliss was so goddamn long. To your first point above, I'm glad to see that someone else thinks so too. Brock did show that he can go when he wants to, it's just been a couple or three years since he's apparently given a shit. A.J. continues to show why he's the greatest of his generation. Flair-Bliss wasn't really that long, it just seemed long because of the ridiculous way it was booked with Lady Hornswoggle getting in far too much offense against an opponent that towers over her by nearly a foot. Yeah, I never griped about the small size of Rey Mysterio jr., but Alexa Bliss is no Rey Mysterio jr. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, We Are The Robots said: Don't mean to be rude but, well yeah of course it was. While I'm here, I was surprised there was very little outside interference in the main. Was expecting Jordan and Kane to get involved. I've just been seeing in some places people thinking that it's a legit foul-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibata Is My Homie Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said: "Gorgeous" Jimmy Garvin & Precious haven't aged a bit! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, OSJ said: To your first point above, I'm glad to see that someone else thinks so too. Brock did show that he can go when he wants to, it's just been a couple or three years since he's apparently given a shit. A.J. continues to show why he's the greatest of his generation. Flair-Bliss wasn't really that long, it just seemed long because of the ridiculous way it was booked with Lady Hornswoggle getting in far too much offense against an opponent that towers over her by nearly a foot. Yeah, I never griped about the small size of Rey Mysterio jr., but Alexa Bliss is no Rey Mysterio jr. Rey Mysterio also worked to his size. He did not go around beating guys with knock out punches. Or even Taz as a heel in ECW had to capitalize on mistakes to beat much bigger dudes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapRef41N93W Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I have only one thought about the main event, which I did not sit through all of: I wish Michael Cole wouldn't refer to Shinsuke Nakamura as "Shin". 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, MapRef41N93W said: I have only one thought about the main event, which I did not sit through all of: I wish Michael Cole wouldn't refer to Shinsuke Nakamura as "Shin". That annoyed the fuck out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Angel Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 29 minutes ago, MapRef41N93W said: I have only one thought about the main event, which I did not sit through all of: I wish Michael Cole wouldn't refer to Shinsuke Nakamura as "Shin". That shit bugged me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Victator said: Rey Mysterio also worked to his size. He did not go around beating guys with knock out punches. Or even Taz as a heel in ECW had to capitalize on mistakes to beat much bigger dudes. I don't get this complaint about Alexa Bliss. Charlotte is 9 inches taller and it's unfathomable that Alexa could punch her and knock her out because she's shorter? What? Bayley is 5 inches taller than Alexa, and she can't KO her with a punch to the jaw? Rey Rey facing someone like Great Khali or Undertaker isn't the same thing as Alexa Bliss going up against women who are only a few inches taller than her. Not in this universe or any other. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 11:22 PM, Casey said: I don't get this complaint about Alexa Bliss. Charlotte is 9 inches taller and it's unfathomable that Alexa could punch her and knock her out because she's shorter? What? Bayley is 5 inches taller than Alexa, and she can't KO her with a punch to the jaw? Rey Rey facing someone like Great Khali or Undertaker isn't the same thing as Alexa Bliss going up against women who are only a few inches taller than her. Not in this universe or any other. Well lets look at the fictional universe of wrestling, which I hate putting it like that. Undertaker and Great Khali (who killed Rey dead BTW) are not the comparison, the example here would be Rey vs Edge or Rey vs Randy Orton. Neither are power houses but do have significant size advantages and the matches are worked accordingly. That would be equivalent to Bayley or Charlotte. Now we mix in that Alexa is a heel. A heel does not always have to be weak or cowardly. But in the case of Alexa, she should be cowardly and conniving. Her beating a good gal clean makes them look like shit. Now Asuka is not significantly bigger than Alexa, but she does have the gimmick of being a great striker. It was not pulled out of the blue. In any case it is probably not Alexa's fault, I doubt she has any control over the endings to her matches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I dug Brock/AJ a lot. Both guys were motivated and the crowd was into it the whole time despite a couple awkward spots. I really hope Brock goes back to being a striker/ground-n-pound guy first and using the suplexes more judiciously as he did here for effect. Thank goodness they came to their senses enough to get Jinder out of this match. Unfortunately they didn't come to their senses to book a decent main event. Outside of Braun, everyone came out looking worse than they went in. Cena didn't look like he gave a shit at all, Angle's washed-up-ness was exposed without booking the whole match around his limitations, Shane (who should be booked as in way over his head) looked even too ineffectual for my tastes, and even HHH looked like a dope unbecoming of his cerebral assassin moniker. Balor/Roode/Nak/Joe being afterthoughts goes without saying. I'm not sure it's mathematically possible to book a 10-man match where all 10 guys look bad just because someone has to at least get the win, but booking a 10-man match where 9 look bad is pretty damn impressive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quackhell Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 As my eyes glazed over during the later portions of the main I fantasized about William Regal leading an NXT assault on the remaining people in the ring and laying out everyone to show which brand is truly the best. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, quackhell said: As my eyes glazed over during the later portions of the main I fantasized about William Regal leading an NXT assault on the remaining people in the ring and laying out everyone to show which brand is truly the best. I want William Regal Knee Tremblers like Sting with the Scorpion Deathdrop on the n.W.o. and Steve Austin Stunners vs. the Alliance on the RAW go home show for Invasion 2001. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 17 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said: There are tiny moments in these episodes where I just know their split is inevitable. And that will be a sad day. But then the reunion special will be fuckin fabulous. Oh, and Lady Bearica's Shawn Michaels eyes have never been more prominently on display. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoeCristyV.1.6 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 That Main event....Boy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 So does this take the honors as being the worst PPV main event this year? The Punjabi Prison match is the only thing I could think of that was a bigger pile, but this match was terrible despite featuring some talented guys and also felt like a lot bigger fuck you to the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 The Punjabi Prison match was literally unwatchable unless you have a high tolerance for looking at busy images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Samir doing the HBK cell bump through the table was more entertaining than anything in the Survivor Series main event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 12 hours ago, quackhell said: As my eyes glazed over during the later portions of the main I fantasized about William Regal leading an NXT assault on the remaining people in the ring and laying out everyone to show which brand is truly the best. Regal and Paul Ellering leading the way for the Undisputed Era, AoP, Roderick Strong, and Sanity to lay waste to the main event would have been fantastic. Sure, it would have made no sense for continuity reasons, but when has that ever stopped WWE before? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubblegumRogue Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I would say the main at Survivor Series was worse. We all knew the Punjabi Prison match was gonna be shit. I had really high hopes for the elimination tag match, and the match didn't come within spitting distance of those hopes. So for me, Punjabi Prison was only the second worst match of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 On 22/11/2017 at 12:24 AM, Craig H said: The Punjabi Prison match was literally unwatchable unless you have a high tolerance for looking at busy images. Another bonus, less Jinder Mahal to see ; ) The bump by Samir, @Oyaji mentioned as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Meltzer: Lesnar vs. Styles ****1/4 Shield vs. New Day ***3/4 Usos vs. the Bar ***1/2 I'd go ****1/2 for Lesnar/Styles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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