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    All Elite Wrestling 2019

    The idea of an NJPW expansion into the U.S., beyond just running a few shows in major markets every year, never made any sense to me. People find that idea exciting because they like NJPW, the Japanese promotion with Japanese stars that's run in a distinctly Japanese fashion. But that's not something that can be imported to the U.S on a full-time basis. It literally isn't possible. So I guess the mistakes they've made with the shows they've done so far don't seem too significant to me, because they've basically already taken it as far as it will ever go.
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    All Elite Wrestling 2019

    There's no doubt in my mind that Meltzer is pulling for AEW to succeed, given that some of his favorite people in the industry are involved in it, and the fact that a new major promotion is bound to generate the kind of intrigue he makes a living reporting on (as we've already seen). But is there any specific evidence that Meltzer hasn't been covering this story accurately? Has he gotten something wrong? Has he failed to report something that he should have? Has he spun anything especially blatantly? Or do people just have a general hunch that he's too close to those guys to be trusted?
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    All Elite Wrestling 2019

    I'm trying to think of exceptions to this--Giant Baba, maybe?
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    AEW - 2019

    It gets worse: Meltzer actually mails this kind of thing directly into people's homes. And he's been doing it for decades!
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    AEW - 2019

    The Observer sometimes sends emails to subscribers when they have a bunch of new posts on a big story. The posts are not ads. Covering the run-up to an event is not the same as promoting it.
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    AEW - 2019

    No. The email had links to f4wonline.com posts about AEW, including one about the on-sale dates for Double or Nothing tickets being announced. If that kind of post counts as shilling, then just about every wrestling news website is on the take right now.
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    AEW - 2019

    He didn't actually do this, and you hit the "like" button on a post where I pointed that out. What gives, man.
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    AEW - 2019

    If the email I got is the one you're talking about, it doesn't have any ticket sale links. All the links are to f4wonline.com converage of AEW news.
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    AEW - 2019

    Let me try a different angle. AxB suggested that it would be better to hire Austin Aries than Del Rio, Swagger, or Ryback because, unlike them, Aries can be relied on to have good matches. Then he said that "most wrestling fans like wrestling shows because of the wrestling that happens on them." Can you see how someone could believe those things, without believing that most wrestling fans care about "matches for matches sake"?
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    AEW - 2019

    OK, but do you realize this is not remotely the same thing as saying that "most people watch wrestling for entertaining characters and storylines not the actual matches" and "wrestling has always been an entertainment show with wrestling as the backdrop"?
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    AEW - 2019

    I see people say this sometimes, and it always strikes me as completely insane. If it were true, it would mean three things: 1. For decades, untold thousands of people have flocked to pro wrestling shows despite not particularly caring about or enjoying pro wrestling itself. 2. For decades, promoters have been putting on shows that consist mainly of the part of pro wrestling most fans don't especially enjoy. 3. For decades, wrestlers have been enduring immense pain, destroying their bodies, sometimes hastening their own deaths, all for the sake of the part of the show that fans don't really care about. I understand that wrestling fans, particularly in the U.S., tend to gravitate toward big personalities and dramatic storylines that often take place substantially outside the ring. But those storylines almost always build anticipation for, and play out partially in, wrestling matches. I don't see how anyone would enjoy the storylines if they weren't interested in watching the matches. It would be like saying that kung-fu movie fans care about the storylines but not the fights, or that fans of musicals care about the characters but not the songs. It makes no sense, because in their respective genres, these things are effectively inseparable. (It's not at all like saying that fans of medical dramas don't want to watch surgery.) If the idea is just that most fans don't care to see match after match without any interesting characters or stories at all, then of course that's true, but that's much different from saying that most fans watch for characters and stories and not the actual matches.
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    AEW - 2019

    Youtube videos with suggestive thumbnails tend to rack up the views--there are Beyond Wrestling intergender match videos with literally tens of millions of views for that reason. If that were a lucrative crowd to cater to, Beyond would be nipping at WWE's heels, not AEW.
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    2019 INDIE WRESTLING THREAD

    Kinda funny that, with "cara" meaning "face" in Spanish and "noir" meaning "black" in French, with French or Spanish word order the name Cara Noir translates to "black face". Probably not a name a U.S. indie wrestler would have chosen (or so one would hope).
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    JANUARY 2019 WRESTLING DISCUSSION

    I think this post sums it up perfectly: it's entirely possible for a super-talented wrestler to get a prominent spot in WWE, and rack up a bunch of accomplishments that look great on paper, without having very much of it actually be any good. That's what I would predict for Omega in WWE.
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    DECEMBER 2018 WRESTLING DISCUSSION

    I think the phrase "All Elite" sounds awkward, with those two L-sounds right next to each other. But I sympathize, coming up with a good name for a wrestling promotion at this point is very difficult.
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