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  1. Something is getting lost for me in all this--what is so offensive about saying that Justin Roberts looks like a child molester? Who is that offensive to, other than Justin Roberts? Child molesters? I mean, it's certainly not a nice thing to say, but I'm not seeing the political angle here.
  2. There's an extra reason that triple threats being no-DQ by default is stupid for AEW specifically: If every triple threat is no-DQ, then in principle, every triple threat could have just as much mayhem and brutality as any of the lights-out matches. And yet the triple threats, unlike the lights-out matches, are sanctioned and go on wrestlers' official records. This makes no sense.
  3. Even if it is the standard, triple threats being no-DQ by default is extremely stupid. If someone breaks the rules, you eliminate them from the match and have the other two wrestlers go one-on-one. Then you can have an actual no-DQ triple threat as a special stipulation.
  4. Watching Jimmy Havoc wrestle undercuts the notion that he's a threat. Looking at a picture of Jimmy Havoc undercuts the notion that he's a threat. The name "Jimmy Havoc" undercuts the notion that he's a threat.
  5. Best part of the show was Emi Sakura's tilt-a-whirl backbreaker on Riho. Nothing else even comes close.
  6. This is a bit embarrassing, but I only recognize Taguchi in the center there. Who are the other guys?
  7. I don't mean to prolong this discussion too much, but what are some especially egregious examples of Meltzer getting things wrong without retraction?
  8. It might not be that hard to figure out. He posted his retirement tweet on January 27th of this year, and he says it was prompted by something he saw the night before, that he then watched on Youtube a bunch of times immediately after. So it was almost certainly something on NXT Takeover: Phoenix, which took place on January 26th. But I don't know what he found so upsetting on that show.
  9. I'm categorically against all worked-shoot stuff, so I didn't like those parts of Jericho's segment either. But I did like the rest. (Was it just me, or did he accidentally refer to Jake Hager as "the most terrified man" at one point?)
  10. Running a Twitter account dedicated to cataloging and griping about things Dave Meltzer says has got to be one of the dorkiest hobbies around. And yes I realize I'm saying that in a post on a pro wrestling messageboard.
  11. This is great, especially the penalty kick. It also reminds of something I've been thinking about for a while. We all know the reason no wrestling promotion has ever instituted some kind of instant replay system is because promoters want heels to be able to get away with flagrant cheating. It's a cornerstone of pro wrestling storytelling that most promotions, certainly in North America, would be hamstrung without. For the same reason, promotions have very rarely run storylines in which referee decisions have been overturned because blatant cheating was caught on tape. We're all completely used to this. It makes some sense, within the fiction of pro wrestling, for all referee decisions to be treated as final for matches that aren't taped. That would cover virtually all matches before the 1950s, and many matches in subsequent decades, arguably up to the present (though smartphones complicate that a bit). But the vast majority of those matches in the post-TV era would be at small low-budget shows. And yet the practice persists even in WWE, the biggest and most extensively-documented promotion ever. So, for as much as Vince McMahon talks about taking wrestling out of the carnivals and smoke-filled VFW halls, he remains completely reliant on a storytelling trope that hasn't made much sense outside of a carnival or VFW hall in over 50 years. I say that with one big caveat: it actually makes perfect sense if you assume that in kayfabe, the promotion wants the heels to get away with cheating all the time. I think this is one reason that the idea of the heel authority figure caught on the way it did, and why it's had so much staying power. The audience is already disposed to be resentful of a wrestling promotion that sits back and lets their heroes get screwed over and over again. The heel authority figure just makes this dynamic explicit. It's intuitive. I sometimes think about what it would be like if a promotion went completely the other way. I don't just mean having no outside interference and mostly clean finishes, since that's been done, especially in Japan. I'm talking about having matches overturned because of cheating caught on video, having a second ref at ringside who comes in immediately when the first gets knocked out, stuff like that. Dealing with classic pro wrestling situations in a more realistic way. It might be interesting to see what new ideas people come up with within those restrictions. But it'll never happen.
  12. It occurs to me that one ironic effect of the ongoing death of kayfabe is that, in at least one respect, it makes pro wrestling MORE like real sports, not less. Real sports generally don't have competitors that are good guys or bad guys to the audience in general (though I'm sure there are notable exceptions); typically there are various competitors that different people like for various more or less arbitrary reasons, so that a player or team can be the hero to one part of the audience the villain to another. People get excited by storylines and rivalries, but they don't need them to have a clear good guy/bad guy dynamic. That can help, especially in combat sports, but it's not necessary. So, ironically, pro wrestling moving away from even pretending to be legit made the relationship between the performers and the audience more like what you find in real sports. The problem is that for this to work as mass entertainment, you need a large core of fans who just like the competition itself, and will happily watch it even when they're not all that invested in the outcome. And because most of what happens on a pro wrestling show is heavily stylized fake fighting with all kinds of goofy conventions, it's an extremely dorky thing to like. That severely limits how big that crucial core of fans can be. So pro wrestling is destined to be a thoroughly niche thing from now on (for this among other reasons everybody here already knows about).
  13. My main thought after the AEW shows so far: who thought it was a good idea to have a grey ring canvas? It looks so shabby. No one looks good wrestling on that thing. Come to think of it, the visual/design aspect of the shows has been pretty bad in general. They've managed to make everything look and feel simultaneously gaudy and drab. Like HarryArchieGus said about the music:
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