Jrag Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I came in here just to say that. It was better than anything Becky has done on the main roster! One of the first times Sasha was able to catch the crowds attention to that degree. Also, Naomi is better than Charlotte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrag Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 If New Day goes in together I will probably vote for them every round. UpUpDownDown alone would give them a round or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Ranking the roster top to bottom (with the assumptions: 1- I would assume it's not going to be separate regionals, and if not WWE could deserve more than 16 based on their sheer size... 1-Kevin Owens 2- Bayley 3-John Cena 4-Dean Ambrose 5- Finn Balor 6- The New Day 7- Kalisto 8-Seth Rollins 9- Roman Reigns 10- Becky Lynch 11- Sasha Banks 12- Cesaro 13- Neville 14- Rusev 15- Nikki Bella (controversial, but if women are getting in for their NXT work and the Divas' Revolution, she'd have more of a case for her year than Charlotte would. Heck, I'll go there- put Nikki in NXT and Charlotte on the main roster for the qualifying year in full and everyone's saying Nikki belongs on the ballot.) 16- Asuka 17- Tyler Breeze (Similar to the Becky/Sasha NXT vs. Main Roster debate: If you're going to hold good NXT work and questionable main roster work as reasons Becky and Sasha should make the ballot, then it should stand to reason as well that Tyler Breeze's year in NXT should get him into March Madness and his middling main roster work shouldn't be held against him either.) 18-Emma 19- Baron Corbin 20- Brock Lesnar 21- Charlotte 22- Samoa Joe 23- Sheamus 24- Jack Swagger 25- Chad Gable/Jason Jordan 26-R-Truth 27- Ryback 28- The Miz 29- Alexa Bliss 30- Enzo Amore/Colin Cassady 31- Bray Wyatt 32-Heath Slater 33- Summer Rae 34- Paige 35- Titus O'Neil 36- Sami Zayn 37- The Vaudevillains 38- Undertaker 39- Daniel Bryan 40- Alicia Fox 41- Apollo Crews 42-Curtis Axel 43- Sting 44- Braun Strowman 45- Dawson and WIlder 46-Brie Bella 47- Natalya 48- Eva Marie 49- Luke Harper 50- Triple H 51-Zack Ryder 52-Carmella 53-Peyton Royce 54-Dana Brooke 55-Mojo Rawley 56- Jimmy Uso 57- Bo Dallas 58- Naomi 59- Stardust 60- Damien Sandow 61- Tye Dillinger 62- Randy Orton 63-King Barrett 64- Big Show 65- Nia Jax 66- Billie Kay 67- Tamina 68- Rhyno 69- Adam Rose 70- Darren Young 71- Blake/Murphy 72- Erick Rowan 73- Elias Samson 74- Mark Henry 75- Chris Jericho 76- Dolph Ziggler 77-Fandango 78-Hideo Itami 79- Sin Cara 80- Goldust 81- Kane 82- Alex Riley 83- Cameron 84- Los Matadores 85- The Ascension 86- Jey Uso 87- Dawkins and Fulton More deserving for non-WWE Nominations: AJ Styles Bubba Ray Dudley Alberto Del Rio D-Von Dudley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 What did Tyler Breeze do of note in NXT? I can't even remember, beyond the Liger match. He had the Itami matches, which I suppose were good, but to rank him above Baron Corbin? Samoa Joe? Bray Wyatt? As for Neville, I maybe mixing up my years, but I don't think he had that outstanding of a year outside of his run as NXT champ, which I thought was just a little bit into this voting period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Breeze was still his ever present awesome self at the start of the year. I'd probably take his best stuff above Corbin or Joes best stuff (save maybe Joe/Ciampa, but thats iffy) Also on any ranking matter, even if you dislike Dolph, how the heck is Sampson above him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 The big difference for Dolph and Samson is- Samson's been bad, but he doesn't actively take away from the product all year. By contrast, Dolph Ziggler went from "March Madness-worthy and future WWE Champ" in 2014 to "worse than nothing" in 2015. The feud with Rusev took a top four person last year and nearly derailed his momentum and ruined Rusev, with only Summer Rae and Rusev doing their damnedest to save that piece of crap fixing it (see also the reason Summer Rae had a surprisingly high ranking there too). In the process, it took Lana, who was whispered as a future "next female face of the company", and turned her from one of the strongest-looking female characters on the roster into a sexy lamp in less than 3 weeks. Throw in that not only was this storyline so bad, but it was going on just as the Divas' Revolution was about revamping and rebuilding women's wrestling in WWE, and it made things worse, because the sheer badness of the storyline made it clear "No, even if the matches the NXT Divas have are good, don't expect things to change. The same knuckleheads are writing WWE main roster television and so within six months they're going to screw this up", so it hindered that part of the show as well. No matter how pretty Ziggler looks selling things, he was one of the biggest net negatives iin wrestling this year. At least Samson just ruins one segment or two of NXT every couple weeks and is in small enough doses it doesn't hurt anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I'm throwing out Braun Strowman as a nominee. The dude has been really great in the role he has been given. He's an old-school swamp monster and it's an event to even get him off of his feet. Goofy name aside, he's really good as a lumbering, clubbing beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Gotta throw out a nod to Jack Swagger. Had about a dozen ***+ matches within the time frame that very few people saw. Remains remarkably over given his lack of push. Made it to the Finals of the Madden Tournament on UpUpDownDown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Breeze was still his ever present awesome self at the start of the year. I'd probably take his best stuff above Corbin or Joes best stuff (save maybe Joe/Ciampa, but thats iffy) Also on any ranking matter, even if you dislike Dolph, how the heck is Sampson above him? Shit, I missed that. Yeah...how is Sampson above Dolph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Sampson has hurty looking offense at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I'm not saying that Dolph is one of the Top 16 guys the past year in the WWE but Sampson has had maybe five matches as The Drifter? He had some matches previously but as a quasi-anonymous NXT jobber. Dolph's a primary part of TV. I'm eh on Dolph but he's better than The Drifter who is sorta just there.I've also seen American Alpha on some lists. I mean, I love those guys to death but I don't even know if they've been around long enough for inclusion on something this illustrious. They haven't even been involved in an angle yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red is Dead Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Miz. Dude has been awesome this year as a chicken shit heel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I'm throwing out Braun Strowman as a nominee. The dude has been really great in the role he has been given. He's an old-school swamp monster and it's an event to even get him off of his feet. Goofy name aside, he's really good as a lumbering, clubbing beast. But he's been 4th best guy in the Wyatt's act, and hasn't exactly set the world on fire in any match he's been in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 Just for the record - officially retired guys aren't making the tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Just for the record - officially retired guys aren't making the tournament When does the first episode of Christian's show air? OR What? Jackyl's appearance on Talk is Jericho doesn't count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Just for the record - officially retired guys aren't making the tournament Terry funk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Just for the record - officially retired guys aren't making the tournament Terry funk? Yeah, I feel like Terry Funk deserves to be nominated for the Mark Lewin match that was uncovered on wrestling classics and for a bunch of the new AJPW tag matches that turned up. (Oates vs Funk. Funk/Robinson vs Asteroid/Avenger). Great year for time-travelling Terry Funk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrag Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I've also seen American Alpha on some lists. I mean, I love those guys to death but I don't even know if they've been around long enough for inclusion on something this illustrious. They haven't even been involved in an angle yet. Quality of quantity my dude. You're going to here that a lot over the next few months (mostly because I will spam post it). Also, they did have an angle! Jordan spent a few months looking for a partner! That was a cool introduction angle and I really loved those backstage skits with Gable begging Jordan to give him a chance. I don't remember arguing with you in this thing before. Is this your first time participating in March Madness? If so, welcome to the fucking show! Also, fuck Braun Stroman. Now there is someone I would pick Charlotte over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Just a point of order - Asuka has a lot more matches in the time period than just NXT I can't find record of anyone named Asuka ever wrestling before. If it didn't happen in WWE, it didn't happen! (Obviously, this joke doesn't even hold water since they acknowledged and introduced her as Kana in NXT.) Cesaro had 68 televised matches after March up until his injury in November according to Cagematch. Should he be eligible? Cesaro was starting to build his momentum back as a singles and #BTE had good matches. He should be in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 My top 16 based on the criteria "Based on the applicable timeframe, who would I rather watch now?" 1. Bayley 2. Kevin Owens 3. Sasha Banks 4. Cesaro 5. Asuka 6. The New Day 7. Tyler Breeze 8. Rusev 9. Samoa Joe 10. Emma 11. Brock Lesnar 12. Roman Reigns 13. John Cena 14. Baron Corbin 15. Seth Rollins 16. Dean Ambrose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Breeze was still his ever present awesome self at the start of the year. I'd probably take his best stuff above Corbin or Joes best stuff (save maybe Joe/Ciampa, but thats iffy) Elaborate, Dragon! What was his best stuff? Why was it better than some of the commonly agreed upon top 20 workers in the company? (Genuinely not being snarky, because, this is a MARCH MADNESS thread, and when it gets snarky you will KNOW IT, BAY-BAYYYY) Should be shoo-ins for getting in: Cena, Reigns, Brock, Owens, Styles, Cesaro, The New Day (would really prefer them as a unit), Sasha, Bayley, Becky Toss-ups that I should should get in: Rollins, Ambrose, Rusev, Wyatt, Harper, Kane, Miz, Truth, Zayn, Balor, Corbin, Gable, Toss-ups that I think should not get in: Orton, Sheamus, Dolph (I'm his biggest defender here, but the hyperbole against him is reaching hysterical levels and he doesn't stand a chance), Goldust, Kalisto, Neville, Ryback, Paige, Nikki, Charlotte, Naomi, Joe, Itami, Cass, Enzo, Jordan, Dawson, Dash, Asuka, Emma, Please do not waste a spot on: Taker, Del Rio, Barrett, Show, Henry, Stardust, Titus, Dudleys, Usos, Swagger, Rowan, Strowman, Rose, Slater, Bo, Axel, Sin Cara, Ascension, Kidd, Young, Sandow, Fandango, Matadores, Nattie, Tamina, Alicia, Brie, Summer, Crews, Samson, Blake, Murphy, Vaudevillains, Mojo, Ryder, Dillinger, Dawkins, Fulton, Alexa, Carmella, Dana, Nia, Eva, Cameron, Peyton, Billie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I'd love to see a Dolph vs. Davey round one pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Rollins had a whole bunch of really good matches. He had two thrillers with Ambrose in the time period, I believe. He and Neville had one of the best Raw matches of the year that included some of the best near falls in memory. I'm sure I can dig up a bunch more stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Rollins had a whole bunch of really good matches. He had two thrillers with Ambrose in the time period, I believe. He and Neville had one of the best Raw matches of the year that included some of the best near falls in memory. I'm sure I can dig up a bunch more stuff. Counterpoint: Rollins sucks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrag Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Rollins had a whole bunch of really good matches. He had two thrillers with Ambrose in the time period, I believe. He and Neville had one of the best Raw matches of the year that included some of the best near falls in memory. I'm sure I can dig up a bunch more stuff. Counterpoint: Rollins sucks. You suck. Your wrestling opinions are mostly awful and yet you are SO sure of yourself. It's such a shitty combination of traits. I will elaborate more in March. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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