Cristobal Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 God, the sense of dread that came over me when you mentioned Jericho. I never had that burnout on him before, but I guess I've finally hit the wall. 2
Craig H Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 I didn't even think about Jericho until he was just mentioned. It's like not even thinking about Sheamus and the MitB contract when Rollins first went down. Thanks. Thanks a lot.
steve Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 God, the sense of dread that came over me when you mentioned Jericho. I never had that burnout on him before, but I guess I've finally hit the wall. Totally incidental. I'm not a pun guy.
The Nature Boy Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 Random pet peeve: New Japan having an Intercontinental Championship. The WWE Intercontinental Championship came about (in kayfabe) from WWF North American Champion Pat Patterson winning a tournament in Rio and unifying the North and South American Championships, thus creating the "Inter-Continental" Championship. The Intercontinental Champion in WWE (if you follow the origin story of the championship) is the champion of North and South America. This is also a reason why the IC Title should clearly outrank the US Title but that's a different story. What is "Inter" Continental about the IWGP IC Championship? What continents are you champion of? If you say all of them then you're saying that the IC Champion is equal to the World Champion.
steve Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 Well, the initial tournament was held in the US, so it could be North America + Asia.
Casey Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 I'm pretty sure the entire idea behind NJPW's IC Title is that it's equal to the World Title. The main event of WrestleKingdom 8 was between Tanahashi & Nakamura for the IC Title, and the semi-main was for the IWGP Heavyweight Title with Okada and Naito. They're having this discussion on Wreddit, kind of. Since Yoshitatsu flat out said he doesn't care about the Intercontinental title last night/this morning on commentary.
Raziel Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 Random pet peeve: New Japan having an Intercontinental Championship. The WWE Intercontinental Championship came about (in kayfabe) from WWF North American Champion Pat Patterson winning a tournament in Rio and unifying the North and South American Championships, thus creating the "Inter-Continental" Championship. The Intercontinental Champion in WWE (if you follow the origin story of the championship) is the champion of North and South America. This is also a reason why the IC Title should clearly outrank the US Title but that's a different story. What is "Inter" Continental about the IWGP IC Championship? What continents are you champion of? If you say all of them then you're saying that the IC Champion is equal to the World Champion. The title was originally created in 2010 when NJPW was supposed to start running several US shows using Fat Frank's licence and promoted by JAPW, called Invasion Tour, done in 2011. The tournament to crowd the first champion was done in the US, specifically, Rahway, NYC, and Philly, with MVP beating Yano for the belt. The tour was pretty much what caused JAPW to shut down for 2 years afterwards, and why NJPW didn't come back until the RoH deal. So the continents in question are North America and Asia, as it was supposed to be the belt that jumped back and forth., I'm pretty sure the entire idea behind NJPW's IC Title is that it's equal to the World Title. The main event of WrestleKingdom 8 was between Tanahashi & Nakamura for the IC Title, and the semi-main was for the IWGP Heavyweight Title with Okada and Naito. They're having this discussion on Wreddit, kind of. Since Yoshitatsu flat out said he doesn't care about the Intercontinental title last night/this morning on commentary. That was a double problem of Nakamura elevating the title just by holding it, Tanahashi being in that match, and the fans shitting on Naito's push that year and voting to switch the title matches position.
The Nature Boy Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 The North America + Asia thing makes sense. It's at least better than random indies having an Intercontinental Championship. I also wish that WWE actually talked about the kayfabe history of the Intercontinental Championship, especially since the name is supposed to represent the merging of the North and South American Championships. I'm surprised that WWE.com hasn't invented a fake lineage for the South American Championship since that seems right up their alley.
odessasteps Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 Hopefully the South American title was controlled by Titanes en el Ring. 1
Zakk_Sabbath Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 It always irritated me that the sideplates of the oval WWF/WWE IC title listed all seven continents for this very reason.
cool arrow Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 When was the last time WWE ran a show in Antarctica?
Zakk_Sabbath Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 Metallica played a concert there in a bio dome last year and got a ton of press for playing all 7 continents that year. It would be very cool and interesting if WWE did something similar
Nice Guy Eddie Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 When was the last time WWE ran a show in Antarctica? Wrestling in Antarctica sounds like the kind of bullshit Hulk Hogan would come up with. I wonder why he wasn't at the Metallica Antarctica show. 1
RIPPA Posted January 4, 2016 Author Posted January 4, 2016 First off - the NJ guys given notice has been brought up in two other threads so we can not worry about that here. That being said - I really feel like we are due for the massive rounds of layoffs soon since there is a lot of dead weight that probably needs to get moved so new folks can get called up. If I was Fandango - I wouldn't answer my phone 1
Infinit Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 Probably right after Wrestlemania as per tradition.
Godfrey Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 If Bryan isn't going to be in the Rumble, they should definitely have him come out and say it ahead of time. Otherwise, they run the risk of some dodos booing every entry no matter how good they are.
Zakk_Sabbath Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 When was the last time WWE ran a show in Antarctica? Wrestling in Antarctica sounds like the kind of bullshit Hulk Hogan would come up with. I wonder why he wasn't at the Metallica Antarctica show. Cause they ended up hiring Roman Trujillo to play bass instead 1
Casey Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 If Bryan isn't going to be in the Rumble, they should definitely have him come out and say it ahead of time. Otherwise, they run the risk of some dodos booing every entry no matter how good they are. It's Florida, I wouldn't worry too much.
The Nature Boy Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 First off - the NJ guys given notice has been brought up in two other threads so we can not worry about that here. That being said - I really feel like we are due for the massive rounds of layoffs soon since there is a lot of dead weight that probably needs to get moved so new folks can get called up. If I was Fandango - I wouldn't answer my phone Is Adam Rose saved by that ESPN special that basically showed that he'd be fucked if they fired him?
joseph2112 Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 Wrestling companies and WWE do plenty of dumb shit for plenty of reasons. But if they were to put DB in the Royal Rumble, that would be the most inexplicable thing in the history of wrestling.
The Nature Boy Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 What would the reaction be if DB won the Rumble and then lost to Reigns at Mania?
Cristobal Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 First off - the NJ guys given notice has been brought up in two other threads so we can not worry about that here. I'd suggest that until we know more, the general thread is the place to talk about it. People outside of the Japan threads will be interested, and since any WWE/NXT talk for any of them will be purely speculative unless and until there's some strong indicators (or an announcement) that they've signed. If that's a no, then this isn't my hill to die on, and I won't say more, but I'm just sayin'...
Cristobal Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 What would the reaction be if DB won the Rumble and then lost to Reigns at Mania? If you turn Reigns and throw in a handshake with Vince and/or Hunter a la Mania 17, I think it'd make him a ME heel for years, and it'd give you ready-made feuds with Ambrose and a returning Rollins. If they insist on Reigns being nu-Cena and trying once again to have him go over Bryan as a "See? He's better than the guy you like you dumb smarks" it'll work about as well as it did before. 2
cool arrow Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 What would the reaction be if DB won the Rumble and then lost to Reigns at Mania? i like to think the crowd would riot but it'd probably just be a lot of booing.
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