paragon11 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 With the list of nominees now posted (and snagged from the Pro Football HOF site), I figured we could have discussion on the list (as we did last year). Modern Era Nominees for the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2016 (108 nominees) *Finalist in 2015; CAPS indicate first year of eligibility QUARTERBACKS (6) Drew Bledsoe, BRETT FAVRE, Steve McNair, Phil Simms, Vinny Testaverde, *Kurt Warner RUNNING BACKS (15) Shaun Alexander, Ottis Anderson, Tiki Barber, Roger Craig, Stephen Davis, *Terrell Davis, Eddie George, Priest Holmes, Edgerrin James, Daryl Johnston, Jamal Lewis, CLINTON PORTIS, Herschel Walker (also KR), Ricky Watters, BRIAN WESTBROOK WIDE RECEIVERS (9) Isaac Bruce, Gary Clark, Henry Ellard (also PR), *Marvin Harrison, Torry Holt, TERRELL OWENS, Sterling Sharpe, Jimmy Smith, Rod Smith TIGHT ENDS (2) Mark Bavaro, Jay Novacek OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (19) Tony Boselli (T), Jeff Bostic ©, Jim Covert (T), ALAN FANECA (G), Jay Hilgenberg ©, Chris Hinton (G/T), Kent Hull ©, Joe Jacoby (T), Jon Jansen (T), Mike Kenn (T), Jim Lachey (T), Kevin Mawae (C/G), Mark May (G/T/C), Tom Nalen ©, Nate Newton (G), *Orlando Pace (T), Chris Samuels (T), Mark Schlereth (G), Steve Wisniewski (G) DEFENSIVE LINEMEN (6) Dexter Manley (DE), Charles Mann (DE), Leslie O’Neal (DE), Simeon Rice (DE), Fred Smerlas (NT), Bryant Young (DT) LINEBACKERS (13) Cornelius Bennett, Tedy Bruschi, KEITH BULLUCK, *Kevin Greene (also DE), Ken Harvey, Levon Kirkland, Clay Matthews, Willie McGinest (also DE), Karl Mecklenburg, Matt Millen, Sam Mills, Zach Thomas, MIKE VRABEL DEFENSIVE BACKS (14) Eric Allen (CB), Steve Atwater (S), Joey Browner (S), LeRoy Butler (S), Rodney Harrison (S), Ty Law (CB), Albert Lewis (CB), *John Lynch (S), LAWYER MILLOY (SS), DARREN SHARPER (FS), Shawn Springs (CB), Troy Vincent (CB/S), Everson Walls (CB), Darren Woodson (S) KICKERS/PUNTER(6) *Morten Andersen (K), Gary Anderson (K), JOHN CARNEY (K), Jason Elam (K), Sean Landeta (P), Nick Lowery (K) SPECIAL TEAMS/POSITION PLAYERS (3) ETHAN ALBRIGHT (LS), Brian Mitchell (KR/PR also RB), Steve Tasker (also WR) COACHES (15) *Don Coryell, Bill Cowher, *Tony Dungy, Tom Flores, Mike Holmgren, *Jimmy Johnson, Chuck Knox, Buddy Parker, Richie Petitbon, Dan Reeves, Pete Rodriguez, Lou Saban, Marty Schottenheimer, Clark Shaughnessy, Dick Vermeil SENIOR CANDIDATES (2) Ken Stabler, Dick Stanfel 2016 CONTRIBUTOR CANDIDATE Eddie DeBartolo, Jr. Modern era nominees list gets trimmed to 25 semifinalists in November, then to 15 finalists in January Those 15 plus Stabler, Stanfel and DeBartolo, Jr. get presented to the HOF Selection Commitee for election the eve of Super Bowl 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I think Favre is the only real lock I see, Owens should be but I could see voters using his antics as a reason to make him wait a season or two to get in. If this was two years ago I think Sharper would have had a good chance but now, fuck that guy he doesn't deserve anything. I think Pace, Davis, Warner, Law and Blesdsoe should all get in (I may be very biased toward two of them but I do think Law legit deserves it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 My list... Favre...absolute no brainer. Terrell Davis...was the best running back in the league for 2-3 seasons while Emmitt Smith and Barry Sanders were in their prime. He was as good as anyone ever before his body betrayed him, and I don't think injuries should be held against you. T.O. if he doesn't get in, they should take football out of the name of the building. He was a great football player, and that is all that should really matter. #88...just because I'm not saying he shouldn't be included on a public forum. Kevin Greene...I don't know what they've been waiting for, he was as good of a pass rushing linebacker as there has ever been. Clay Matthews...he should have been in a long time ago. He was the best defensive player on a Browns team that went to 3 AFC Championship games. If they would have won one of those games odds are he'd be in already. The Bills got to 4 Super Bowls and lost, and people remember all of their great players. The Browns got to 3 AFC title games and apparently no one on any of those teams was any good. One game difference, remembered completely differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Put Morten Andersen in, goddammit! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Would Eddie DeBartolo, Jr. because of where the announcement would be made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincey Greene Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Favre and Owens are the first ballots. If TO was even slightly lower statistically he might have to wait but he's a numbers monster; it's not a Hall of Fame without him. Orlando Pace should have been first ballot, I think he gets in this year. Edge James believe it or not is 11th all time in rushing yards, only 30 yds behind Marshall Faulk so he should probably get in. I think Jimmy Johnson should finally go in this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Favre is a lock. TO and TD should be, but I'm doubting Davis ever gets in because voters are idiots. #88 belongs, obviously. Tony Boselli was great before the injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Oh, and fuck Tony Dungy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Oh, and fuck Tony Dungy.Amen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Oh, and fuck Tony Dungy. In 2006? Damn skippy I would have. #sorrynotsorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APO Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Boselli and Fred Taylor are probably the only Jags that will ever get serious consideration, but will probably never make it. Shame that Jimmy Smith loved nose candy so much that he'd rather quit than give it up. Could've easily gotten into top 15 in all-time receiving yards and possibly 80+ TDs and made a much better case for himself. Issac Bruce and Orlando Pace not being in already is a bit of a shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 What's the case against Isaac Bruce? It seems open and shut to me. I don't get it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Pace, Warner, and Faulk were better? That's all I've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Pace, Warner, and Faulk were better? That's all I've got. Well that and there was/is a logjam at WR position that the voters have begun to untangle, with Carter, Reed and Brown in the last few years. Owens has the stats, but I bet Pious Peter and his cronies make him wait a year or two. Marvin Harrison this year? As for Davis, I know his peak was much higher, but in terms of career yards he ranks with the Stephen Davis and Michael Turner's. I'm not sure that 1 insane year, I Great year, one good year, one medicore and two shit years gets you in the hall of fame. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serious Darius Bagfelt Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Well Marvin Harrison may or may not have shot a guy so they might hold that one against him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Well Marvin Harrison may or may not have shot a guy so they might hold that one against him Yeah, but we don't say anything out loud about that, he has ears all over. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Sabin Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 I no it won't happen but if Sterling Sharpe makes the Hall of Fame I will be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Well Marvin Harrison may or may not have shot a guy so they might hold that one against himYeah, I don't see Marvin ever getting in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 There's a lot of talk about HOF stuff here in St. Louis due to the overflow of Greatest Show on Turf players and I generally think Warner has the worst case of those left. I'd break it down as most likely to get into chances they do as. Orlando Pace: Legitimate argument for being the best LT, if not Offensive Lineman of the last 25 years. Isaac Bruce: Just an outstanding wideout, top 10 in NFL history in most major stats, also to his advantage doesn't have the Owens/Moss/Harrison personality that might hold a WR back. Might have to wait, but he'll get in. Torrey Holt: The Wideout logjam will hurt him, but this is a guy that led a 10 year stretch of one of the passing happiest times in NFL in catches and receiving yards, and has the NFL record for most consecutive 1300 yard seasons at 6. He should get in. Kurt Warner: Amazingly good QB in prime, but his prime didn't last long. His redemption in Arizona should help, but it doesn't promise anything. He'll have a better case then any QB from now till when Manning or Brady are eligible, but there's such a backlog of amazing players everywhere, it might end with him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Pace, Warner, and Faulk were better? That's all I've got.Well that and there was/is a logjam at WR position that the voters have begun to untangle, with Carter, Reed and Brown in the last few years. Owens has the stats, but I bet Pious Peter and his cronies make him wait a year or two. Marvin Harrison this year? As for Davis, I know his peak was much higher, but in terms of career yards he ranks with the Stephen Davis and Michael Turner's. I'm not sure that 1 insane year, I Great year, one good year, one medicore and two shit years gets you in the hall of fame. . . Arguably the best three year stretch by a running back ever, a MVP award, a Superbowl MVP award, and was the biggest weapon on a team that won two straight Superbowls. He belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Owens was an asshole. There are other players in the hall of fame who were assholes. It shouldn't matter at all. He was the perfect combination of size and speed. One of my best friends still has nightmares about the wild card game against the Giants. Also, what Owens did in that Super Bowl against the Pats was superhuman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboy Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Also, what Owens did in that Super Bowl against the Pats was superhuman. He put the team on his back, with a broken leg! I'll always bang the drum for TD. He didn't have one fluke season, he put together an all-time 3 year run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Owens should go in no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Please note I will never say Owens shouldn't be in there, but this is sports writers putting people in, and they typically have a "personality should count for some reason" mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Please note I will never say Owens shouldn't be in there, but this is sports writers putting people in, and they typically have a "kissing our ass should count for some reason" mindset. As the kids these days like to say, Fixed That For You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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