Johnny Sorrow Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Wasnt that also right after Chavo Sr was run out of the locker room for having Hep and not saying anything?That was Orton Senior. Chavo Sr got a big head and became hard to deal with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzil Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 didnt orton sr blade when he was doing something with taker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Calling Bob Orton Jr "orton senior" is confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 didnt orton sr blade when he was doing something with taker? Armageddon 2005, inside Hell in a Cell. I believe that's the same year that Taker and Randy had a 'Mania match and it was pretty damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Regardless of what one feels about Punk as a worker or personality or whatever, my opinion is that it's completely unreasonable to say that there wasn't money left on the table when it comes to the post MITB 2011 momentum, and I'll argue that until my heart explodes from the polish sausage trapped in its lining. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Punk's one of those guys who will never be satisfied unless he's moving onwards and upwards. That's not necessarily a bad thing, and you can tell Vince rather liked him for it. But it was always going to be a problem in the 21st century WWE because he'll just keep wanting more and more, and no matter how much they had pushed him it would have all worked out more or less the same. He had crossover appeal, but he was not the new Hogan/Austin/Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Calling Bob Orton Jr "orton senior" is confusing. Ha, I fucked that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 didnt orton sr blade when he was doing something with taker? Â Yeah, but the thing was I think he didn't know he had it (or it was long long long dormant in him) and there was something about Johnny Ace intentionally not telling Taker and everyone else after they did a routine blood test before hand. This goes back to my thing about him being a stooge working his way up the ladder. No care for employee safety...here, have a promotion. Â As for Nigel, I believe he said he can still wrestle if he wants but he has no desire to. Basically he failed the WWE physical and I believe it was because he couldn't pass their concussion test. Honestly its kinda amazing Daniel Bryan ever did considering he did a lot of the same kind of things Nigel did if not more. But I remember Nigel couldn't get into the WWE so he ended up in TNA which wasn't bad. I loved him as Desmond Wolfe. Of course TNA being TNA didn't help. At least I got see him vs. Angle a few times which was pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Getting back to Nigel, it was my impression that he retired not due to injury but because WWE wasn't interested anymore and he had no desire to work anywhere else.IIRC he contracted a bloodborne illness which forced him to retire. He has spoken out numerous times against blading because I think that's how it happened.He did have Hep B at one point, but it's been clear for years. However, WWE's not interested anymore and he doesn't wanna wrestle anywhere else.EDIT: If his L.A. Fights kickstarter has worked, he was gonna wrestle there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarl Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Let's say Hogan dies next week. How would WWE handle it? They'd have to acknowledge it, right? And after the big showings they gave Dusty and Piper after they passed, you'd think Hogan would warrant something similar. But with his recent racial issues......how does that go? Do they ignore his legacy and just put up an "In Memory" graphic like they've done with "lesser" deaths? Or do they go full out with the memorial video packages and the full nine yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Full nine but also bring up the recent scandal. but it would also slight depend on cause of death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I think MonteCarl is planning something. I don't trust that avatar. Animals shouldn't wear helmets man 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Let's say Hogan dies next week. How would WWE handle it? They'd have to acknowledge it, right? And after the big showings they gave Dusty and Piper after they passed, you'd think Hogan would warrant something similar. But with his recent racial issues......how does that go? Do they ignore his legacy and just put up an "In Memory" graphic like they've done with "lesser" deaths? Or do they go full out with the memorial video packages and the full nine yards? Â Honestly, they'd probably have to go all out with the memorial video packages and full nine yards. Even with the recent scandal, if Hogan were to conceivably die next week, then that would change the narrative of the story from "Hulk Hogan was secretly a racist all along, look at what he said on his sex tape!" to "Gawker Media was so desperate to save their ass in a lawsuit they kept hammering until it drove Hulk Hogan to his death- even if it was [blank], make no mistake- Gawker murdered Hulk Hogan!"- and in the process, turn Hogan from a doddering racist asshole into a tragic victim who died for social media's sins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCM Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I thought Nigel failed the WWE physical due to an old torn bicep injury they wanted him to get fixed. I doubt their concussion tests were very accurate back then considering the way they botched handling Bryan's injury this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I thought Nigel failed the WWE physical due to an old torn bicep injury they wanted him to get fixed. I doubt their concussion tests were very accurate back then considering the way they botched handling Bryan's injury this year. Hard to separate fact from fiction in what actually happened there but I remember reading Bryan initially passed the concussion test and then the symptoms returned. If that IS what actually happened it would help support the idea that Bryan went over that concussion threshold where he just really can't take any kind of bumps without getting another concussion. Kind of like a football player who has gotten so many concussions that every hit/sack ends up injuring them. See: Kevin Kolb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 As much as I'm sure he'd like to wrestle and continue to do what he loves, he has to think about his future family. I like watching Daniel Bryan wrestle but I don't want to see him end up with significant brain damage or in a wheelchair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 It seems almost too obvious that he should either become an agent or open a wrestling school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I wouldn't mind seeing Daniel Bryan as an on-air character of some kind. Maybe you could do what they did with Austin and make him a GM or maybe even let him manage someone against The Authority so you can blow off that feud in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrag Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 After reading his book, I have no doubt Bryan will wrestle forever. If the WWE doesn't let him, he will just do it somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 After reading his book, I have no doubt Bryan will wrestle forever. If the WWE doesn't let him, he will just do it somewhere else. Â Maybe Brie can talk some sense into him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bink_winkleman Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Bryan has said in multiple interviews that the reason he got into WWE and Nigel didn't is because Bryan lied about how banged up he was and Nigel was too honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Anyone get the impression that DBrine is a little stupid from reading his book? Early on that's the impression I'm getting and I can't really think of specific examples 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Is anyone on here a Facebook friend of Billy Jack Hanyes? That dude has lost it. There was some type of issue featuring Dan Spivey and Adam Clarke too. It's a really sad/hilarious situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I am, though I confess I haven't been paying too much attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I am, though I confess I haven't been paying too much attention. Not to bring the sleaze, but just read the last 3-4 extensive status updates he's posted referring to Vince McMahon as a tyrant and accusing him and Stone Cold of for Pipper's death and accusing Austin of being a wife beater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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