Nice Guy Eddie Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I just watched # 20-30 of last year's Rumble. Even in spite of the wrong decision to have Batista win and Rey as #30 instead of Bryan, it's still pretty enjoyable. I'm surprised that the negative reactions for Batista and Rey weren't edited out. As an indy fan, it's always cool to see the guys you've watched in small venues before they were known to the majority make it to the big time, but I especially enjoyed having Tyler Black, Claudio Castagnoli, Jon Moxley, Brodie Lee, and CM Punk in the ring at the same time. I wish I could get excited for this year, but I'm not. Even Bryan being back doesn't feel as special as it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 You echo my feelings with WWE right now. I've stopped watching the TV shows in the new year because I found myself far more annoyed than entertained when watching them. I'll still go to my bud's house for PPVs but that's about it. I've canceled my Network subscription and will watch NXT with friends once a week. I want to get behind Bryan's comeback but it's so hard knowing they're just going to play the same old fucking games and it's already started. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Ray Von Erich Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I feel like I've made this point before, but Raw is not a good tv show. As a wrestling show, I think it's okay, but compared to other shows on tv, it's just terrible. The plotting and character development are all over the place, the acting is largely terrible, and the pacing of the show ensures the 3 hour runtime feels closer to 6. How could WWE make Raw a better tv show? Is it as simple as changing up the way they shoot backstage segments? Not rewriting the show at the last minute every week? I feel like the in-ring product has been stellar for years, but the show itself is awful more often than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I feel like I've made this point before, but Raw is not a good tv show. EVERYBODY has made this point before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 C'mon. Don't dis Gregg like that. He's somebody. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 #RAWlternative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brysynner Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 What if the first hour of RAW was all sports entertainment and the second two hours had wrestling. So instead of booking a 3 hour show. They script one hour of promos and two hours of wrestling with a promo here and there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 The matches are the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 What if the first hour of RAW was all sports entertainment and the second two hours had wrestling. So instead of booking a 3 hour show. They script one hour of promos and two hours of wrestling with a promo here and there? Probably wouldn't work. They'd have a segment of the audience that tuned out the first hour, then tuned back in at 9. Besides skewing the rating, they'd probably feel obliged to make the second two hours recap-heavy. They seem to think people do that now, given how many times they recap events that happened an hour earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 There is an easy solution. Stop opening with 25 minute promos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 What if the first hour of RAW was all sports entertainment and the second two hours had wrestling. So instead of booking a 3 hour show. They script one hour of promos and two hours of wrestling with a promo here and there? Nitro tried that. It didn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivpvideos Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Three hours is the problem. It is impossible to make a three hour weekly show that keeps people's attention the entire time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Three hours is just way too damn long for a regular weekly show, but I wonder if we're on the right track here by discussing some kind of one hour format change. The 8-9 hour could be just solid matches from the undercard before the "main" show starts at 9 with a major angle. Or, maybe 8-10 could be the PG Raw and 10-11 could be the TV-14 War Zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I agree; they need to split the show somehow, someway. Also bring back the roster split. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bink_winkleman Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 WCW in the early "Monday Night Wars" (ugh) had an excellent three hour formula. First hour was high flyer porn, second hour started with the NWO destroying whatever two masked guys were still left in the ring and setting up the top of the card with the big promo and maybe a scuffle. Then we'd get mid-card/upper mid-card action to build to the last hour. Though certainly, the cliffhanger endings were a bit much. But the show, at its height, always felt like it was on a clear trajectory with a beginning, middle and climactic end. It had distinct acts. Which is ironic, considering how much of a clusterfuck the show was backstage. Of course, WCW had unreal depth, so they could keep it fresh more easily than WWE could now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Slot Tough Enough back in the eight o'clock hour. This would make Raw a 2 hour show again. Reinstate the brand split. Allow Raw to be the Cena-centric cash cow that it is. Make Smackdown Raws edgier brother centered around Daniel Bryan with more of a focus on matches and elevating talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Austin Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 #RAWlternative I'm going to give this a chance tonight, wish it could be an ongoing thing, but I hope it does what it hopes to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 From the Make-Your-Own-Joke Department: The Hindustan Times reports that The Great Khali may be opening up a pro wrestling school in Punjab, India soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Over/under on the number of fatalities at the Great Khali Professional Wrestling Academy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 It does seem to be in a bad area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Is that where the promo class is held? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Caption: Khali, on right. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I eagerly await the TNA debuts of a bunch of immobile guys grunting in Punjabi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I eagerly await the TNA debuts of a bunch of immobile guys grunting in Punjabi. followed by TNA finally morphing into Ring Ka King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Can't happen soon enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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