BillThompson Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 So, Cesaro is good enough to be a top three in the world, but not good enough to work something out of RVD? But RVD is just old and slow. He's like Stallone still thinking he could play Rocky and people will buy it. At this point in time I don't think any great wrestler from any era could get anything good out of RVD. I'm placing all of the blame for his Cesaro feud sucking on RVD, because well, RVD has proven that he is the worst of the worst at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 So, Cesaro is good enough to be a top three in the world, but not good enough to work something out of RVD? But RVD is just old and slow. He's like Stallone still thinking he could play Rocky and people will buy it. Yes, that's how bad RVD is. He is unwilling to adjust or wrestle any differently than he did when he was in his 20s. That isn't Cesaro's fault, and there doesn't seem to be much that he (or anyone) can do about it. A hypothetical match with RVD and anyone else that you could make a case for being top three right now would be equally atrocious. Does anyone think that Tanahashi/RVD would be anything above abysmal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Is there anyone who had a major run in the big two that understands how to put together a pro wrestling match less than RVD? Sid is where I kind of lean, but I think he does get it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebbie Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 It shouldn't surprise anyone that RVD won't (can't?) change his style. He's always been a spot monkey that can't do a work kick. If people weren't impressed by it 10 years ago, he wouldn't be on WWE TV now. I ain't defending the guy because I think he is useless and a guy like Justin Gabriel can do what he does, but with some speed. But he isn't the worst guy. He has a set match (which a lot of guys don't), defined move set (which a lot of guys don't), and doesn't get mic time because he fucking shouldn't (fuck you, Cody Rhodes) Which brings me to my original point, QUIT PUSHING PEOPLE AS CHARISMATIC LIKE IT'S A GIMMICK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillThompson Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 The thing is though, one shouldn't just accept that RVD has a style that he works. That's part of the reason why he's such an awful wrestler. He has a style that he refuses to adjust for his opponent, and the end result is a match that comes across like a bad clash of styles. RVD should be willing to mesh his style with his opponent's style, but instead he just goes out there and does his thing, with diminishing returns every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 RVD needs a talk show segment. RVD's Smoke Shop. Evan Bourne can just be hanging out on a couch in every segment eating Cheez Its. There will also be a Duggan/Sheik picture in the background. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 It would hopefully be something like this... http://youtu.be/8idxaAraPpU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Knock knock Who is it? EVAN. Evan's not here, man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Jones Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I like Cody Rhodes, Bo Dallas and Rocky Balboa (Rocky VI), so... oops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Rocky Balboa is the best Rocky movie since 1/2 way through Rocky III 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Rocky Balboa is the best Rocky movie since 1/2 way through Rocky III Fuck yes it is! I have such a weird soft spot for that flick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD WATCH BLADE THREE, LIKE I TOLD YOU TO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I would watch any Blade that's on Netflix, but none of them are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Crazy thing is, one of my favorite RVD matches ever looked like a total styles clash on paper, but ended up really good. The No Way Out 2002 match with Goldust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafkonia Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 All this talk of RVD reminds me that Rey's been off screen for months and nobody's even noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Rey who? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Crazy thing is, one of my favorite RVD matches ever looked like a total styles clash on paper, but ended up really good. The No Way Out 2002 match with Goldust. It's a really good match except for the lack of back selling by Van Dam. The Jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Crazy thing is, one of my favorite RVD matches ever looked like a total styles clash on paper, but ended up really good. The No Way Out 2002 match with Goldust. It's a really good match except for the lack of back selling by Van Dam. The Jerk. Sometimes Chicken McNuggets are good enough when you can't get wings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo Necro Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Just gonna put this out there and hope it ends up where it belongs: D.V. Ant. Nearly as good as my "El Generico's Mexican orphans" King of Trios team idea I had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Crazy thing is, one of my favorite RVD matches ever looked like a total styles clash on paper, but ended up really good. The No Way Out 2002 match with Goldust. It's a really good match except for the lack of back selling by Van Dam. The Jerk. Sometimes Chicken McNuggets are good enough when you can't get wings. I think there should be a word filter for RVD into "Chicken McNuggets" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Isn't RVD more of a belly bomb from White Castle? The type of thing that sounds good in theory but the second it hits your tongue you immediately regret it and remember why you avoided the thing like the plague for the last 5 years. And 5 years pass and you fall prey to the exact same thing all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 If RVD is an older Rocky Balboa then I expect him to cut a promo like this on Bad News Barrett 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Isn't RVD more of a belly bomb from White Castle? The type of thing that sounds good in theory but the second it hits your tongue you immediately regret it and remember why you avoided the thing like the plague for the last 5 years. And 5 years pass and you fall prey to the exact same thing all over again. You are a heretic and should be banned. The bomber is not regretted until it hits somewhere in the large intestine, which is roughly 4 to 6 full minutes after it hits your tongue. And even then it was worth it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Isn't RVD more of a belly bomb from White Castle? The type of thing that sounds good in theory but the second it hits your tongue you immediately regret it and remember why you avoided the thing like the plague for the last 5 years. And 5 years pass and you fall prey to the exact same thing all over again. You are a heretic and should be banned. The bomber is not regretted until it hits somewhere in the large intestine, which is roughly 4 to 6 full minutes after it hits your tongue. And even then it was worth it. Sooo ... Scott Steiner? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Speaking of hamburgers and scott steiner: ""THREATS? Just because he paints-cuts his hair and paints his face, he thinks he's threatening me? I've beat him before and I'll beat him again, AND HE'S STILL A FAT BASTARD! The only thing I'd be afraid of him is if I was smothered in a Twinkie, or I was dressed as a hamburger." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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