Mookieghana Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 I've been looking at the relationship between wrestler ages and match quality which has led me to assemble lots of lists of wrestler birthdays. Beyond the obvious (The Harris Boys! Gymini! The Bella Twins! The Usos!), here were some that I noticed: 3/30/1945: SD Jones & Ronnie Garvin 10/20/1958: Fit Finlay & Scott Hall 7/4/1960: Barry Windham & Sid Vicious 11/11/1963 Billy Gunn & Sam Houston 9/29/1970: Stacy Carter (The Kat) & Tajiri 2/10/1971: Louie Spicolli & Victoria 3/24/1982: Epico & Jack Swagger I would support all of these tag teams.
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 You need to analyze softball ability for this one: 7/4/1960: Barry Windham & Sid Vicious
Bustronaut Posted April 17, 2014 Author Posted April 17, 2014 That means The Kat was nearly 30 when Lawler was dating her? Seems old for Jer 1
Uncle Coaster Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 I've been looking at the relationship between wrestler ages and match quality which has led me to assemble lots of lists of wrestler birthdays. Beyond the obvious (The Harris Boys! Gymini! The Bella Twins! The Usos!), here were some that I noticed: 3/30/1945: SD Jones & Ronnie Garvin Mind blown. Those were my two favorite wrestlers when I was a kid.
Go2Sleep Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 JR was just dreadful the last few years of Austin. Whatever went on, he kept talking about Austin, and he sounded like Bobby Heenan circa Ric Flair WWF champ but in the least entertaining way possible, always complaining about it not being fair: "That's not RIGHT!" His commentary actually made me dislike Steve Austin because I was so sick of hearing JR drone on and on about him. I don't think there's ever been a more biased announcer, honestly. NWO era Schiavone/Dusty, WWF Heenan and Ventura, WWECW era Tazz and Styles, heel Michael Cole, heel Jerry Lawler, TNA Tenay, and A&8 Tazz were all noticeably more biased just off the top of my head.
Niners Fan in CT Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 As much as I would like Renee to stay with WWE, I would be all over a Sportsnation type show with her as the host.
Brian Fowler Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 You know, the Cole/JBL/JR booth from when Lawler was out recovering was really good. JBL is wildly uneven these days. You can tell whether or not he gives a damn about a match by his commentary though. Because when he truly cares, he's incredible. And when he doesn't... Oh boy. Rewatch Brock/Taker. JBL is absolutely perfect calling it. Heelish in that he knows Brock is going to win, but he doesn't want the streak to end. Purely respectful to the match, and makes every bit of it seem like a big deal. (He also had easily the best line of the night with the line about the end of the attitude era after The Shield ran through the NAO.)
jaedmc Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 JBL making the comment that Undertaker had been wrestling off his back for the previous 5 minutes or so made the match so much better, and was probably the most insightful storytelling from any announcer the whole night. But yeah... he does a lot more dopey shit these days than he used to.
Brian Fowler Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 As a related note, for a match I didn't think much of when it happened, rewatching Brock/Taker and it's a lot better than I realized. It was just so different than I expected it to be, that I think I judged it unfairly at the time. Plus, you know, the "time froze" moment at the end when nothing in the world made sense anymore.
Dolfan in NYC Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Apparently, WWE wrestlers really like Outback and Waffle House. Roman Reigns: Chipotle. Love Chipotle. Could eat Chipotle like three times a day, for sure. I do the burrito bowl, black beans. Sometimes some rice, depending on if I just worked out. Triple chicken. That sets everybody off. They're like, "Whaaat? Triplechicken?" Cheese, the corn salsa and a big ol' scoop of the guac. Give this man the WWE World Heavyweight Championship. RIGHT NOW.
RIPPA Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 On the flip side - our dreams of Reigns wrestling a bear seemed to be dashed
Go2Sleep Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 As a related note, for a match I didn't think much of when it happened, rewatching Brock/Taker and it's a lot better than I realized. It was just so different than I expected it to be, that I think I judged it unfairly at the time. Plus, you know, the "time froze" moment at the end when nothing in the world made sense anymore. Looking back, it would've gotten a better reception if the build was consistent with the match. If they went with Brock laughing at Taker's "superpowers" and mind games the whole time, a match that was basically putting Taker out to pasture would've made a lot of sense. It still would've gotten the same WTF reaction because we've seen that story before too where Taker still wins. Actually, the build to Lesnar/Taker was really weird looking back on it. It started with an open contract, which is like right out of "beginning storylines for dummies" and should be well beneath two guys of this caliber. Then Taker shows up, stabs Brock with a pen and puts him through a table, but this is never mentioned again. Maybe the stabbing was a bit un-PG. Then they both go off tv for a while and the build is basically one Heyman promo at a time. Next time they meet, Taker does the old druid/casket routine, which Brock stooges around for like it's the early 90s. This is also never mentioned again. The last week before the show, they do a spot where Lesnar gets the best of Taker and all of a sudden he's the biggest threat ever to the streak. The WM video package consists of that segment and clips of Heyman talking, most of which was entirely new material, not stuff taken from the promos during the build.
RandomAct Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 I actually thought JBL was terrible in Brock/Taker. Felt like he was giving away the finish, honestly. 1
Brian Fowler Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Giving away the finish to a match where the odds were -3000, +900 on the opposite finish seems, frankly, impossible to me.
jaedmc Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 I thought he was just covering for Taker being pretty wrecked for the whole second half of the match, trying to create some type of tension in a match that pretty much everyone thought was a foregone conclusion. It was made even better by him acting like he hated being right. 3
LooseCannon Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 JBL is wildly uneven these days. You can tell whether or not he gives a damn about a match by his commentary though. Because when he truly cares, he's incredible. And when he doesn't... Oh boy. Can you come up with any examples of good matches that he diminished by obviously not caring about or bad matches that he made more watchable because he cared enough to give some incredible commentary?
Cristobal Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 I get what you're saying there, but it's not just his job to help prop up the GOOD matches.
Go2Sleep Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Can you come up with any examples of good matches that he diminished by obviously not caring about or bad matches that he made more watchable because he cared enough to give some incredible commentary? I don't know if it was a product of not caring, but one example of him hurting a match that springs to mind was Bryan/Usos vs. The Shield from SD last year where he and Cole spent the first 2/3 of it having an agonizingly circular argument about the Scott Armstrong situation.
JonnyLaw Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Apparently, WWE wrestlers really like Outback and Waffle House. Roman Reigns: Chipotle. Love Chipotle. Could eat Chipotle like three times a day, for sure. I do the burrito bowl, black beans. Sometimes some rice, depending on if I just worked out. Triple chicken. That sets everybody off. They're like, "Whaaat? Triplechicken?" Cheese, the corn salsa and a big ol' scoop of the guac. Give this man the WWE World Heavyweight Championship. RIGHT NOW. I lost it imagining him saying "Whaaat? Triple chicken?"
Goodear Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Imagine what happens when he goes on dates. Double Triple Chicken!
Big Fresh Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Dan Ackroyd and Roman Reigns for Blues Brothers 3!
Josh Mann Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Dan Ackroyd and Roman Reigns for Blues Brothers 3! "...and a Coke" 1
BEN! Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 On the flip side - our dreams of Reigns wrestling a bear seemed to be dashed He's the only one that understands that bears are shoot wrestlers and not sports entertainers. 2
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