Victator Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I'm guessing it's more a case of him and a lot of the other guys from his era mellowing out because they're older, more financially secure and just don't give a fuck about petty shit that happened 15 years ago Although plenty of people from the 80's still shit on Hogan even though Hogan made a lot of people from that era a lot of money, or at least more money than they probably would have made without Hogan. I do think that there is a lot of merit to what you say, but I think it helps that Austin seems to be a pretty likable guy. I find a lot of guys who worked with Hogan in the 80's think a lot of him. Only thing I hear is he changed in the 90's and was more insecure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfredoE Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 El Dandy calls Hulk Hogan his "uncle". Said he looked out for him and wasn't a racist like some others in WCW. Said he had a good heart, so if he was good to Dandy, can't be a bad guy. Said his "uncle" liked watching him wrestle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 .......and who are you to doubt El Dandy? He's a jam up guy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerjeRUN Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Only a fool would doubt El Dandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 .......and who are you to doubt El Dandy? He's a jam up guy. He's a serious professional. What about Hypnosis, Pyscosis? He's a high flyer of the highest magnitude. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimoDANK Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Just got around to listening to the full Ric Flair interview. That was some pure wrestling joy. So many great stories. The highlight for me being Harley Race walking upto Jumbo backstage and slapping the shit out of him in front of Baba. I remember a few years back there was talk of an HBO hour drama set in the world of 1970's pro wrestling. If that ever happens there HAS to be a character loosely based on Harley Race. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 When Flair tells stories he prefaces each one with "this is the best story of all time" Maybe he was coaching Schiavonne on his announcing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebreaker Chip Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 ooh my gahd are you kideeng me? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Just got around to listening to the full Ric Flair interview. That was some pure wrestling joy. So many great stories. The highlight for me being Harley Race walking upto Jumbo backstage and slapping the shit out of him in front of Baba. I remember a few years back there was talk of an HBO hour drama set in the world of 1970's pro wrestling. If that ever happens there HAS to be a character loosely based on Harley Race. The stories would be even greater if you weren't aware that some of them were probably complete bullshit. I loved the Flair interview, but once he starts talking about being at events that history has proven he wasn't at, you have to wonder what else are complete fabrications too. And I just finished the Pritchard interviews. What's the deal with him saying Hawk came up with the Doink gimmick? Hawk was long gone by the time Matt Borne came in. Hawk went AWOL after SummerSlam 92, Matt Borne was brought in for dark matches a month after, and the Doink angle started in October. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerjeRUN Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Just got around to listening to the full Ric Flair interview. That was some pure wrestling joy. So many great stories. The highlight for me being Harley Race walking upto Jumbo backstage and slapping the shit out of him in front of Baba. I remember a few years back there was talk of an HBO hour drama set in the world of 1970's pro wrestling. If that ever happens there HAS to be a character loosely based on Harley Race. The stories would be even greater if you weren't aware that some of them were probably complete bullshit. I loved the Flair interview, but once he starts talking about being at events that history has proven he wasn't at, you have to wonder what else are complete fabrications too. And I just finished the Pritchard interviews. What's the deal with him saying Hawk came up with the Doink gimmick? Hawk was long gone by the time Matt Borne came in. Hawk went AWOL after SummerSlam 92, Matt Borne was brought in for dark matches a month after, and the Doink angle started in October. What has Flair stated he was at which was proven otherwise? RE the gimmick creation, on screen timelines mean next to nothing. Hawk could have handed in a detailed Blue Print, with schematics, essays, prototype Hasbro's as early as 1991 for all you know. If somebody as senior as Pritchard is saying it, there is no eason to doubt him. As an example, on the new Foley DVD it shows sketches for the character dated 1995, Foley getting measured for a mask back in 1995, but he didn't debut on television 'till the next year. On screen appearances mean nothing as more goes on behind closed doors than we will ever know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Except the story as Pritchard tells it is that they were sitting backstage, Hawk saw Borne sitting in the corner with a cigarette in his mouth and Hawk pointed at him saying "Krusty The Clown!". So according to him, the idea was born (no pun intended) when Hawk actually saw Borne backstage. Unless he was there visiting or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerjeRUN Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 See above post. Foley was knocking around the WWF in 1995... For all we know, the Beverley Brothers are this very minute working out in the gym at Titan Towers. Borne worked for the company for years. It's not unrealistic to think he was backstage at some point in the few months timespan on screen exits and debuts were made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 It could have happened at some other time and it was pitched later on. It seems like a pretty random thing to make up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 See above post. Foley was knocking around the WWF in 1995... For all we know, the Beverley Brothers are this very minute working out in the gym at Titan Towers. Borne worked for the company for years. It's not unrealistic to think he was backstage at some point in the few months timespan on screen exits and debuts were made. Except Matt Borne was still Big Josh in WCW as late as August 1992. He didn't come into the WWF until after Hawk was gone. I don't think Pritchard made the story up, but I do think he might be confused with the actual talent involved. What has Flair stated he was at which was proven otherwise? Flair said he was in the locker room in Puerto Rico when Bruiser Brody was murdered which was an absolute lie. It's been proven he was in a WarGames match in Greensboro that night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 In his shoot Flair said he knew Jumbo Tsuruta could whip his ass. Then when asked about Tenryu, he said Tenryu would have to kick his ass before he would believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonL21 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 What has Flair stated he was at which was proven otherwise? Flair said he was in the locker room in Puerto Rico when Bruiser Brody was murdered which was an absolute lie. It's been proven he was in a WarGames match in Greensboro that night. He could've told them to keep the jet running at the airport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Boricua Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 What has Flair stated he was at which was proven otherwise? Flair said he was in the locker room in Puerto Rico when Bruiser Brody was murdered which was an absolute lie. It's been proven he was in a WarGames match in Greensboro that night. He could've told them to keep the jet running at the airport Flair hadn't wrestled in Puerto Rico since Sept. or Oct. of 86. He was not scheduled at all for those cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Flair said nothing in his book about being in the locker room with Brody so I would look to that as the most accurate reference. If he's said that since then I'd chalk it up to either senility or bullshittery. Hey, I think I coined a new term... Tenryu and Flair in their prime shooting I would pay cold hard cash to see. Flair had the stamina but Tenryu might pull out his eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 With how much Ric has drank I can't imagine his memory being that clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Come on Tenryu would fucking murder the guy, with or without the dick implants weighing him down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Flair did not seem to think so. He fully admitted Jumbo would fuck him up. He said the NWA office actually sent Harley Race with Flair to make sure Jumbo did not try something. With Tenryu, he just had a mentality of Tenryu would have to kick his ass before he would believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george young Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Flair needed Arn's help to fight Eric Bischoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Flair needed Arn's help to fight Eric Bischoff. Umm...Karate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerjeRUN Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 See above post. Foley was knocking around the WWF in 1995... For all we know, the Beverley Brothers are this very minute working out in the gym at Titan Towers. Borne worked for the company for years. It's not unrealistic to think he was backstage at some point in the few months timespan on screen exits and debuts were made. Except Matt Borne was still Big Josh in WCW as late as August 1992. He didn't come into the WWF until after Hawk was gone. I don't think Pritchard made the story up, but I do think he might be confused with the actual talent involved. Mick Foley was in ECW in 1995. I work for a company, it doesn't mean I can't visit another company. It's not unheard of for a wrestler to be backstage at another promotions show / crossing paths a airports / gyms etc. The latter two actually being fairly frequent back in the day. Esp if somebody was about to enter a promotion - do you think people just show up at TV tapings with an outrageous new gimmick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Danielson on Austin's show tomorrow. Jericho on the newest Nerdist podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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