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10 hours ago, Just Dave said:

Creed's contract is up this year, too. He's been treading water a long time. I wonder if he'd consider at least taking TK's call...

Does WWE own UUDD? 
EDIT: I missed @CraigH’s post where he said they did. My bad.

also googled This.

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SirSmUgly

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Ah, it'd be fine, Xavier could go to AEW and start a new channel named B A Start.

(I assume he wants to avoid calling it Left Right Left Right, especially in an election year.)

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just drew

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8 hours ago, AxB said:

UUDD was at it's biggest in the pandemic, when their biggest show was Uno with Creed, Adam Cole, Claudio and Breeze as the regular players. Three quarters of that group is out of WWE now.

The six-man pitting The Elite vs The New Day is probably off the table with Big E's injury, but that doesn't necessarily mean he has nothing to offer as a singles guy. And taking a payday to work less dates would help with his love of doing things other than wrestling as well.

That's a good point. A lot of Woods' primary contributors are no longer with WWE. He was at his best doing stuff with the Usos, Rusev, Heath Slater, Cole, Claudio, et al. And I bolded the part I did because I think moving forward that's going to be one of AEW's biggest selling points. TK should try to sell Woods on coming over under the WBD umbrella to wrestle for AEW and do something with Adult Swim or something like that. Woods' built in audience would probably be appealing to the higher ups there.

10 hours ago, Craig H said:

I could see Creed calling it a career to just be a full time streamer or doing whatever with his doctorate. The only place he’d be booked on top is TNA, which means fuck all. If he went to AEW, and that’s if Tony would even want him, then he’s basically taking a payday for less dates. With no more access to UUDD since I think WWE owns part of that now. Xavier just doesn’t work without Kofi. And UUDD is something of a pretty big brand. 

In AEW he could wrestle 15-20 times a year and still do all that other stuff, not to mention still making 6-7 figures a year for fewer dates. He's a good worker, and I bet TK would find a great spot for him. There's a TON of guys in AEW I think he'd have fun interactions with.

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madl

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It’s wild to me that bland as anything Ricochet is apparently the hot free agent of the moment. The guy is extremely athletic and has a decent look, but I don’t think I have ever watched him and thought he had the toolset for a promotion with national tv.  

Even wilder is that he’s the hottest free agent out there and Becky Lynch’s contract expired a week or two ago. Lol.

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EVA

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Becky is out of contract, but I don’t think anybody really considers her a “free agent” in the sense that she’s actively seeking out other job offers. It’s understood that she’s just taking a break and will be back with WWE when she’s ready.

Again, her contract status is probably more PR-related than anything. In 6 months they can run a big campaign around her re-signing and regain face after the Sasha debacle.

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odessasteps

odessasteps

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3 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:

Ah, it'd be fine, Xavier could go to AEW and start a new channel named B A Start.

(I assume he wants to avoid calling it Left Right Left Right, especially in an election year.)

To answer a bunch of posts …
 

LRLR is the heel brand on UDUD, headed by Breeze.

Breeze also has some working relationship with the company, since he hosts a lot of their merch live shows. And he’s a GM character in the video game. 
 

I also think Creed never actually finished his PhD. I think he mentioned that once during a stream. 

Octopus

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6 hours ago, odessasteps said:

 

I also think Creed never actually finished his PhD. I think he mentioned that once during a stream. 

Are you telling me we could get a Doctor Woods, phd gimmick?!

Ramo2653

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8 hours ago, EVA said:

Becky is out of contract, but I don’t think anybody really considers her a “free agent” in the sense that she’s actively seeking out other job offers. It’s understood that she’s just taking a break and will be back with WWE when she’s ready.

Again, her contract status is probably more PR-related than anything. In 6 months they can run a big campaign around her re-signing and regain face after the Sasha debacle.

I am 90% sure Becky did sign a new deal and they're just giving her a break before she comes back. I can't imagine they'd just let her contract expire and let her sit. Plus on her end, why not get a contract and negotiate some time off right away?

IMO for Ricochet, If he wants to get a fresh start somewhere, go for it, I think he's at the right level in WWE and would be somewhere similar in AEW but some new matchups would be cool.

I agree that Claudio is basically in the same spot in AEW as he was in WWE, just less dates working which can be appealing since he's been going for roughly 12 years straight on TV right? But he's the #3 guy in a group that's either 2,3 or 4 in the power rankings. 

odessasteps

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As I said before, I can’t imagine them publishing Beckys book and doing all that PR for it only to have her contract run out a few months later. 

AxB

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They made a movie of Saraya's life and still let her contract expire (having not used her on TV for months before that). Although there you are dealing with the whole thing of WWE not medically clearing her to wrestle, whilst AEW did medically clear her to wrestle (but then barely used her in the ring, because she's one of the worst bell to bell wrestlers on the roster).

Eivion

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3 hours ago, AxB said:

They made a movie of Saraya's life and still let her contract expire (having not used her on TV for months before that). Although there you are dealing with the whole thing of WWE not medically clearing her to wrestle, whilst AEW did medically clear her to wrestle (but then barely used her in the ring, because she's one of the worst bell to bell wrestlers on the roster).

Eh, that isn't really the same thing timing wise. The movie was in 2019, and Saraya was on tv regularly as GM back then. Her contract expired in 2022. Becky's book release and PR tour was just in the past six months.

Zakk_Sabbath

Zakk_Sabbath

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32 minutes ago, odessasteps said:

It feels like longer than 5 years now. 

I'm on the opposite end of this one for some reason, I was shocked to read that was 5 years ago. Is she still on the same deal?!

Joe vs the Algorithm

Joe vs the Algorithm

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18 hours ago, madl said:

It’s wild to me that bland as anything Ricochet is apparently the hot free agent of the moment. The guy is extremely athletic and has a decent look, but I don’t think I have ever watched him and thought he had the toolset for a promotion with national tv.  

Even wilder is that he’s the hottest free agent out there and Becky Lynch’s contract expired a week or two ago. Lol.

I liked his run as Prince Puma in Lucha Underground and think he’s the right guy for a ‘Indy dream match’ promotion that runs once a month or so and doesn’t lean heavily into storylines or feuds (PWG?).  But, yeah, he’s always felt like an odd fit for WWE or AEW to me.  He’s athletic and can pop a crowd with a high spot, but the same can be said of Kofi Kingston or PAC and I’d just as soon watch them (better promos, more charisma). 
 

Interesting career though.  A couple big paydays from WWE and likely a lucrative deal with AEW.  Seems likely AEW will want to park him with Ospreay initially, but I’m wondering what they’ll find for him after that.

 

9 hours ago, odessasteps said:

As I said before, I can’t imagine them publishing Beckys book and doing all that PR for it only to have her contract run out a few months later. 

WWE didn’t publish Becky’s book.  Gallery Books is owned by Simon & Schuster,  I would assume WWE has a relationship with S&s and brokered the contract in some way though.

i would guess they fully expected her to stay with the company long-term and Lunch changed her mind at some point after that. Meltzer says she’s burnt out. It seems unlikely she has any serious plans to go elsewhere, though AEW should at least try to make her an offer while she’s out of contract.

 

Elsalvajeloco

Elsalvajeloco

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5 hours ago, odessasteps said:

Quite the crew there 

Wrestle and Romance is the true forbidden door.

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bobholly138

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On 6/8/2024 at 9:46 AM, Technico Support said:

Also, wash your ass.

Add in down this way it is hot and humid from late April till sometimes after Xmas.

There was a lady that used to be at SWA shows. Named Sue or Susan. But known as stank ass sue or Sour Smelling Sue.

More than a few times see guys get cornered by her and the look on their faces as the smell hit them......

I hate that most shows now take a shower before I leave. But once at the venue after setting out couple hundred chairs and it is summer I am sweating. 

So to help I keep a spare speedstick in my bag. After chairs,off to bathroom  put on some speedstick,then walk out back to smoke and relax before doors open.

There is another guy,works security and ring crew for a fed that runs 3 states,nice dude. Works hard. But he arrives at the venue smelling like he crapped his pants,a week ago and never changed his drawers or pants.

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Elsalvajeloco

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16 minutes ago, The Old-Fashioned Gamer said:

I liked his run as Prince Puma in Lucha Underground and think he’s the right guy for a ‘Indy dream match’ promotion that runs once a month or so and doesn’t lean heavily into storylines or feuds (PWG?).  But, yeah, he’s always felt like an odd fit for WWE or AEW to me.  He’s athletic and can pop a crowd with a high spot, but the same can be said of Kofi Kingston or PAC and I’d just as soon watch them (better promos, more charisma). 
 

Interesting career though.  A couple big paydays from WWE and likely a lucrative deal with AEW.  Seems likely AEW will want to park him with Ospreay initially, but I’m wondering what they’ll find for him after that.

 

WWE didn’t publish Becky’s book.  Gallery Books is owned by Simon & Schuster,  I would assume WWE has a relationship with S&s and brokered the contract in some way though.

i would guess they fully expected her to stay with the company long-term and Lunch changed her mind at some point after that. Meltzer says she’s burnt out. It seems unlikely she has any serious plans to go elsewhere, though AEW should at least try to make her an offer while she’s out of contract.

 

Yeah, that part grabbed my attention cause if WWE was out here publishing books independently that would be a big news story. That and we would have no less than 50 books about how Vince McMahon (Jr.), his father, and grandfather controlled wrestling with an iron fist. That and a completely fictional recount of the steroid trial.

Also, how much mileage are we getting out of a book? Okay, it's released and most of the sales are going to be within a few months of the release. Unless it's a runaway success, then there is no big financial reward to reap after a certain period. 

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Zakk_Sabbath

Zakk_Sabbath

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1 hour ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

Unless it's a runaway success, then there is no big financial reward to reap after a certain period. 

Not shitting on anyone's hard work, but I've had a really hard time getting through anything they've done in-house probably since the first three Foley autobios. I think the last one I read was Shawn Michaels' and you can sort of tell it's not his "voice." At least with Flair's book there was a little bit of an effort by Mark Madden to put it in words approximate to how he'd say it

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