SirSmUgly Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 This observation might be a bit too hot-takey for some people, but the biggest issue with Ross in AEW over everything else is that he pretty clearly doesn't like the AEW product. This could absolutely just be me hearing something that's not there, but he has a sort of barely-concealed contempt for a whole lot of it outside of maybe guys like Moxley who he seems to like. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 If I was ranking announcers from the territory era, I'd prob put Vince in the middle category, probably ahead of Mercer, Lowrance, Whalen, Gorilla, Trongard and Nelson. I thinknits always beneficial to have your announcer be the booker/promoter to advance angles and what not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, caley said: I think you're thinking of Arda Ocal who in a strange circle of life kind of way, recently hosted his first episode of Sportscenter. I always felt bad for Ocal, that post-Raw show was his idea that he pitched with himself as host, the Network wanted a co-host and put Renee in there. Once Sportsnet bought out The Score (The channel where it debuted), WWE immediately swooped in and snatched up Renee, leaving the guy who created it with a sad "Congratulations Renee, hope to be your co-worker again one day in WWE!" type tweet. Then he bounced around a bit (I remember he was on the Weather Network doing "humourous" weather segments), actually did get signed by WWE to do those awful "WWE Universe, WWE is coming to your town for an exciting untelevised event!" bumpers. He didn't last very long there, but seems to have landed on his feet doing some ESports stuff and now getting on ESPN. I completely forgot that Arda Ocal was a person that existed, but yeah he would have been the actual cohost. Shows how great Renee was at it that my memory just wiped Arda from existence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Its Renee's World and we are just living in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Technico Support said: Jesus, imagine that staff meeting. Dunn: Okay Bill, what are your thoughts? Bill: Well Kevin, I think we... Dunn: CUT TO JILL! Jill: Uhhh, my idea is... Dunn: GO FOR SAM! Sam: Well you see.. Dunn: BACK TO BILL! Bill: Um, what? Dunn: DAVE! Dave: ... Dunn: CUT TO LISA! This is like the McLaughlin Group skit from SNL. And now I wanna see a WWE version of it with Vince as the host. Edited May 25, 2021 by PetrolCB 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) WWE let go Adam Kirshner, he worked for them for over 15 years, way back to the earliest days of the WWE website. He was Associate Producer and produced top 10s for WWE on youtube. He had several other jobs, PWInsider goes into more detail: "Kirshner held the position of Manager - Media & Metadata Operations for WWE over the last two and a half years. Over the course of his WWE run, Kirsher was The Associate Producer for WWE's Top 10 and Inbox series on YouTube, was Senior Associate Producer for the company's digital media team as they grew the YouTube channel to the force it has become, began overseeing all the back end of WWE's digital video manager system and most recently, was a big part of the relaunched WWE Network (prior to it shifting over to Peacock domestically), including managing the Network's standards and practices, redeveloping all of the metadata for the relaunch, development and programming of the Network's free tier and more, including helping with the migration to Peacock." International office staff were also let go, Jay Rosenstock, WWE's Executive Vice President of International is gone. Nick Khan will handle all the offices now under one roof and they will align closer to the American office. So Nick gets even more power. WWE also gutted WWE Studios as well, https://deadline.com/2021/05/wwe-studios-layoffs-features-tv-digital-consolidate-vince-mcmahon-1234764095/ Edited May 26, 2021 by D.Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said: This observation might be a bit too hot-takey for some people, but the biggest issue with Ross in AEW over everything else is that he pretty clearly doesn't like the AEW product. This could absolutely just be me hearing something that's not there, but he has a sort of barely-concealed contempt for a whole lot of it outside of maybe guys like Moxley who he seems to like. I don't think JR being out of touch with modern wrestling has been a hot take at any point over the last 25 years. You could hear the same tone at many points during the attitude era. They'd be way better off with just Tony and Excalibur, with Tazz and Callis interjecting some heel commentary occasionally without it being all over the show. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ka-to Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Happ Hazzard said: Vince was a great announcer back in the 70s and 80s. And even in the 90s he was still better than anyone today. Does anyone on this board go back long enough to remember Vince's catch phrase of Wham-a-Lam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, ka-to said: Does anyone on this board go back long enough to remember Vince's catch phrase of Wham-a-Lam? Even Google doesn't seem to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valcourt Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 I really don’t like JR in AEW. It’s been said but he doesn’t care for the style at all. Hell. He even put over a guy in another company (Orton) as the best in the world. meh. Hope he leaves when his contract is up. They do not need him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 hours ago, caley said: ... (In addition to all the really weird Vinceisms,I really think they're not allowed to say the word 'God' anymore and it really takes me out of a moment when someone is being set on fire and the announcer says "Oh my Gosh!")... Well, like Heyman said in that one post-show ep, they don't speak of talent that's been let go, and you never did see God in a WWE ring after that match with Michaels against the McMahons. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 3 hours ago, odessasteps said: Not to mention apparently doing stuff against the wishes of the guys when making some decisions. It's a bit... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 40 minutes ago, Valcourt said: I really don’t like JR in AEW. It’s been said but he doesn’t care for the style at all. Hell. He even put over a guy in another company (Orton) as the best in the world. meh. Hope he leaves when his contract is up. They do not need him. JR stinks, and has for a while. I wish it was Schiavone and Excalibur only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 3 hours ago, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said: This observation might be a bit too hot-takey for some people, but the biggest issue with Ross in AEW over everything else is that he pretty clearly doesn't like the AEW product. This could absolutely just be me hearing something that's not there, but he has a sort of barely-concealed contempt for a whole lot of it outside of maybe guys like Moxley who he seems to like. You want to hear JR put someone over when he really wants to? Just wait for Jake Hager to do literally anything. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph2112 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Boy I know it's not the case but I would swear it looks like the WWE is leaning itself out for something more than bottom line. Like a sale or something... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Go2Sleep said: I don't think JR being out of touch with modern wrestling has been a hot take at any point over the last 25 years. You could hear the same tone at many points during the attitude era. They'd be way better off with just Tony and Excalibur, with Tazz and Callis interjecting some heel commentary occasionally without it being all over the show. I know that JR being out of touch is a talking point, but he seems like he has even less time for stuff out of his wheelhouse than normal. Like, he still finds time to love guys with collegiate athletic backgrounds like @John from Cincinnatipoints out, but there's "grumpy JR" and then there's "hostile to almost everything on the screen in a way that makes the show hard to watch JR" who I feel is a whole new terrible thing. Agreed on Tony and Excalibur in a two-man booth. I'm not a huge fan of three-man booths anyway (with a couple of exceptions), and Tony's rekindling of his love of wrestling comes through, sells the product, and shouldn't be offset by a guy in a cowboy hat who only wants ex-football players to be pushed as champ. Re: Getting costs off their books for a sale, I must appreciate that Vince came to the realization that his dipshit kids or the moron ex-pro wrestler that his daughter married shouldn't be running the company by themselves. He's out of touch, but not entirely delusional if they're selling, so I have to give him that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) There should just an ongoing thread for the people who regularly complain about JR’s commentary. (Or do people already do that in the folder i dont read?) Edited May 26, 2021 by odessasteps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, odessasteps said: There should just an ongoing thread for the people who regularly complain about JR’s commentary. (Or do people already do that in the folder i dont read?) Oh big time. Too much fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 I still don't have that much of a problem with JR and mostly tune him out until he starts talking shit about Chuckie T, but Chuck also was rotated out as a regular for the time being so I notice JR even less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordi the former AEW fan Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) On 5/22/2021 at 12:01 AM, Craig H said: This. Is. Amazing. I I'm laughing so hard at some of these, like "well, not a million." If we were going to make one of these for JR in AEW (or, say, a "JR in AEW" drinking game or a "JR in AEW" soundboard), what would you include? Off the top of my head, I've got: "Strange enigma" "Quicker than a hiccup" Says something cringe-inducing about a female competitor's physical appearance. Goes on a rant about how the only reason anyone is in pro wrestling is for the money. Chastises a wrestler for "voluntarily leaving their vertical base." Critiques a wrestler's pinning technique. Complains about a wrestler not going for the pin. Badly mispronounces a word. Uses a word incorrectly and/or uses the wrong word. Mangles a common expression. Do we need "slobberknocker" or "Praises someone's amateur sports background for an AEW-specific game? I guess we could throw in "talks about a wrestler's father's sports background." Looking forward to reading what you guys have got for this. Edited May 26, 2021 by El Gran Gordi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 8 hours ago, RIPPA said: The other "weird" news story of the day Apparently in doing press for F9: The Fast Saga in China, John Cena referred to Taiwan as a country which of course pissed off the Chinese government So Cena then did a promo in Mandarin apologizing. Which is now leading to Cena getting backlash for apologizing Including the amazing double standard here... Why would this upset WWE or is it because the clip is viral and it's getting Cena backlash right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting a man with a perm Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 hours ago, El Gran Gordi said: If we were going to make one of these for JR in AEW (or, say, a "JR in AEW" drinking game or a "JR in AEW" soundboard), what would you include? Looking forward to reading what you guys have got for this. I've got two: Praises a racist (or two) from 50/60 years ago as the best examples of people who've used moves. Compares all Mexican wrestlers to Eddie Guerrero/compares all British wrestlers to the Dynamite Kid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Just now, Fighting a man with a perm said: I've got two: Praises a racist (or two) from 50/60 years ago as the best examples of people who've used moves. Compares all Mexican wrestlers to Eddie Guerrero/compares all British wrestlers to the Dynamite Kid. To be fair he really wants to use Benoit for the PAC comparison 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 I was crying with laughter when it happened. Only things I've ever seen from the Blood Money shows is the above match, Undertaker vs. Goldberg and The Fiend vs. Goldberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 I'm still not understanding why WWE is upset with Cena over his apology and what that situation is. And if Andrew Zarian is going to put that out there, why not elaborate on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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