Craig H Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 THE SHOWCASE OF THE IMMORTALS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Showcase of Vince McMahon's inability to deal with reality* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Craig H said: THE SHOWCASE OF THE IMMORTALS AND BY THE DAY OF THE SHOW...THERE WILL BE 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 At least this isn't as disastrous as that 1996 house show in Louisville where Aldo Montoya and Duke "The Dumpster" Droese had to wrestle twice for 45 minutes until the rest of the boys got there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Wait, so basically none of the key matches are happening? Lol. Presumably they'll still be able to deliver on Drew vs Brock Becky vs Shayna Charlotte vs Rhea Cena vs Bray AJ vs Taker Which is a decent chunk of the featured matches. Of course those will all be lame and depressing and none of this should be happening. But that goes without saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 A part of me hopes this WrestleMania never sees the light of day. What a mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Presumably they'll still be able to deliver on Drew vs Brock Becky vs Shayna Charlotte vs Rhea Cena vs Bray AJ vs Taker Which is a decent chunk of the featured matches. Of course those will all be lame and depressing and none of this should be happening. But that goes without saying. Supposedly Bayley's title defense was already taped, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Just now, Casey said: Supposedly Bayley's title defense was already taped, too. Sure, but I'm not counting the consolation prize clusterfuck as a featured match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I mean, Fuck Miz I guess, but isn't this one of those situations where it actually makes sense to say Fuck Vince? The Miz shouldn't feel encouraged to show up at events sick, and the company culture at WWE is undoubtedly to blame for that. Who knows how Vince could possibly retaliate at the people making the decision to sit out right now? What if the post-Coronavirus WWE suddenly doesn't have a place for those weak people who couldn't Man Up and wrestle during a pandemic? Meltzer or whoever can point to Reigns making the decision based on Miz, but it's clear Reigns should have been pulled the second all of this flared up. If it took Miz showing up sick for them to wake up, then I'm glad he did. I hope the whole roster sits out and tells Vince to go fuck himself. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Christ this is going to be... I don't even know 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I've also seen some athletes who got sick say it totally ruins your conditioning so wrestlers should be especially wary. This sounds like a total disaster but it's probably the closest we'll get to a DDT version of Wrestlemania. I hope they shoot pyro at each other and wrestle into a lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, MORELOCK said: I mean, Fuck Miz I guess, but isn't this one of those situations where it actually makes sense to say Fuck Vince? The Miz shouldn't feel encouraged to show up at events sick, and the company culture at WWE is undoubtedly to blame for that. Who knows how Vince could possibly retaliate at the people making the decision to sit out right now? What if the post-Coronavirus WWE suddenly doesn't have a place for those weak people who couldn't Man Up and wrestle during a pandemic? Meltzer or whoever can point to Reigns making the decision based on Miz, but it's clear Reigns should have been pulled the second all of this flared up. If it took Miz showing up sick for them to wake up, then I'm glad he did. I hope the whole roster sits out and tells Vince to go fuck himself. If we're making a comprehensive list of Fuck ______, then Vince of course places at the very tippy top. But Miz being enough of a bootlicker to leave his mansion and travel sick earns him a spot on the list. Truthfully, anyone with the power to say no who doesn't do so also deserves a place on that list. That list includes every top talent and every person who's carved out a very comfortable living working for this company. If there was ever a time for every talent to tell Vince to go pound sound, it was when this thing escalated. He can't bury and blackball everyone. And here we are weeks later, in an increasingly fucked up situation where this company/industry keeps looking worse and worse. Edited March 27, 2020 by West Newbury Bad Boy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehabilitated Rick Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I blame Trump for his administrations slack response, I blame the media being far too focused on impeachment in January, and I blame Vince for not safeguarding his most vulnerable performers. Every institution in the managerial class deserves equal blame for this getting out of control. Miz is a grug-brained company man, but literally any crew member could be a carrier of the virus. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rehabilitated Rick said: Miz is a grug-brained company man, but literally any crew member could be a carrier of the virus. A week from Clusterfuckmania taking place or airing, this is going to end with at least one performer apologizing for giving everyone who actually wrestled "The Rona". This is how this all ends. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 With all these wrestlers missing, you would think Mania wouldn't be too big for one night anymore lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) I'll throw this in here, since some stuff will require replacements if it's taking place at all: Buddy Murphy isn't cleared Cesaro and Asuka are out, but no details are available Anyway, I have no idea what's already in the can. So these people might still be on some stuff. Edited March 27, 2020 by West Newbury Bad Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 This is all so fascinating. I will say that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 48 minutes ago, MORELOCK said: I mean, Fuck Miz I guess, but isn't this one of those situations where it actually makes sense to say Fuck Vince? The Miz shouldn't feel encouraged to show up at events sick, and the company culture at WWE is undoubtedly to blame for that. Who knows how Vince could possibly retaliate at the people making the decision to sit out right now? What if the post-Coronavirus WWE suddenly doesn't have a place for those weak people who couldn't Man Up and wrestle during a pandemic? Meltzer or whoever can point to Reigns making the decision based on Miz, but it's clear Reigns should have been pulled the second all of this flared up. If it took Miz showing up sick for them to wake up, then I'm glad he did. I hope the whole roster sits out and tells Vince to go fuck himself. Man, when you know it's bad when Morelock is telling Vince to, well, take it away cast of Succession: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Hero Morganti Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I am actually super interested in this just to see what happens and how it all turns out to be honest. Like taking a half step back from reality, its interesting to see how sports and entertainment groups are handling this. Mania is the last real >big< thing. NASCAR and F1 are running esports with real drivers, but Wrestling is still Wrestling yo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great ML Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Elsalvajeloco said: At least this isn't as disastrous as that 1996 house show in Louisville where Aldo Montoya and Duke "The Dumpster" Droese had to wrestle twice for 45 minutes until the rest of the boys got there. I would prefer that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great ML Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 1 hour ago, TheVileOne said: A part of me hopes this WrestleMania never sees the light of day. What a mess. If this can somehow lead to either Vince McMahon’s outright dismissal or lost fortune, it wouldn’t hurt my feelings. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 As far as I know, everything is taped. Or at least everything at the PC. No clue about the other locations. They are supposed to have tv done at least through the sixth, maybe the eighth. Please, for the love of God, shut down. Fill TV with docs, classic matches, profile pieces, whatever. AEW needed to shut down two weeks ago too. I wish like hell they had taped weeks worth of tv, but either way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I'm not going to condemn Miz without knowing all the details. Obviously, there are multiple sides to this and rumors in wrestling always get twisted or sometimes get told inaccurately. Case in point, Meltzer going on about Seth Rollins giving a rah rah speech after that Saudi Arabia trip. But if Reigns didn't feel comfortable with performing in this situation, he shouldn't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, The Great ML said: If this can somehow lead to either Vince McMahon’s outright dismissal or lost fortune, it wouldn’t hurt my feelings. At worst, we get a half-assed mea culpa interview where Vince insists nobody could have seen how bad this was going to get. Of course I doubt the media even notices what's going on here. They have much bigger things to cover, and wrestling will fly under the radar as usual. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 35 minutes ago, The Great ML said: If this can somehow lead to either Vince McMahon’s outright dismissal or lost fortune, it wouldn’t hurt my feelings. I think Vince is going to be able to avoid losing his riches for now. He recently entered a deal where will he will get $80 million now and agree to sell a number of his stocks (don't quote me on the number but I think like about 15 percent of his class b shares). Plus all that guaranteed Fox money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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