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19 minutes ago, Beech27 said:

Yeah, I suspect it goes without saying that I think Kenny has had great matches, and that no one needs to carry Okada. (Though I wouldn't argue with anyone who ranks the Shibata match as his best. Depending on the day, I do, as much as I love the Kenny/Tana epics and understand why some might cringe at Shibata's self-immolation. Pro wrestling is beautiful and hideous and violent and euphoric and cathartic and tragic and fulfilling and empty; I can't think of another match that gets it all so comprehensively.) But I think the utility of a list that leans pre-Bushiroad outweighs the bullshit, and I really like most everything there--if not the stated reasons.

I'm rarely blunt but to say the Okada/Tanahashi series didn't get better and Kazuchika Okada needs carrying, I had to be and still am. Ricky is talking rubbish. 

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I wouldn't argue either with someone who has Okada/Shibata as Okada's best. There's a couple of Okada matches I rate more though:

1. Kazuchika Okada vs. Kenny Omega, NJPW Dominion 2018.

2. Kazuchika Okada vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi, NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 10.

3. Kazuchika Okada vs. Kenny Omega, NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 11.

4. Kazuchika Okada vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi, NJPW King of Pro-Wrestling 2013.

5. Kazuchika Okada vs. Tetsuya Naito, NJPW 40th Anniversary Show.

All *****.

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Inokism twitter sphere is weird and speaks lots of rubbish when it comes to "old vs new", but at the same time they do provide unique perspective. Thou I wonder how much it is defensiveness due to "Inoki bad" talking point being rather popular today.

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8 minutes ago, Archibald said:

Inokism twitter sphere is weird and speaks lots of rubbish when it comes to "old vs new", but at the same time they do provide unique perspective. Thou I wonder how much it is defensiveness due to "Inoki bad" talking point being rather popular today.

Yeah, that's mostly why I enjoy checking in on it. I do think a lot of the vitriol is an over-correction to the hate Inoki and the 2000s get, but I've gotten pretty good at just glazing over the "Omega was a worse WK main eventer than Josh Barnett" level idiocy. (And I actually really like Nagata/Barnett.) Short version is I try to be non-dogmatic in my wrestling consumption, so I like resources that advocate strongly for flavors outside the current zeitgeist.

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Giant Baba Death 20th Memorial Box Office Committee Produce "GIANT BABA DEATH 20TH MEMORIAL BOX OFFICE ~ OJA NO TAMASHI* ~ ABDULLAH THE BUTCHER RETIREMENT MEMORIAL ~ SARABA JUJUTSUSHI**", 19.02.2019 
Tokyo Ryogoku Kokugikan 

-. Taichi , Yoshinobu Kanemaru & TAKA Michinoku  vs. Masanobu Fuchi , Yoshiaki Fujiwara & Yuma Aoyagi  
-. Special 3 Way Tag Match: SANADA & BUSHI  vs. Jake Lee  & Koji Iwamoto  vs. Ayato Yoshida  & Shota Umino  
-. Giant Baba Memorial Battle Royal: Mitsuo Momota, Kim Duk, MEN's Teioh, TARU, Ryuji Hijikata, Yuto Aijima, etc. 
-. Satoshi Kojima , Yuji Nagata  & Osamu Nishimura vs. Jun Akiyama , Takao Omori  & Taiyo Kea 
-. Mil Mascaras & Dos Caras vs. Kaz Hayashi  & NOSAWA Rongai 

Others to be annouced ....Hiroshi Tanahashi , Tomoaki Honma , Kento Miyahara , Great Kojika , Daisuke Sekimoto , Naomichi Marufuji , Kazushi Miyamoto, Tomohiko Hashimoto, Atsushi Onita & Kendo Kashin.
 

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Jesus, Fujiwara is still trying to wrestle?  What's his signature move at this point, he shows the opponent the cover art of his porn video and they run out of the ring for a count-out?

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How old is Masa Fuchi?? He was a lumpy, grumpy old bastard 20 years ago lol

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Wikipedia puts him at a spry 64, a full 5 years younger than OMF.

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Both are still good for their age.

Shiro Koshinaka Produce "SHIRO KOSHINAKA 40TH ANNIVERSARY ~ HEISEI LAST HEISEI ISHINGUN", 30.01.2019
Tokyo Korakuen Hall

1. Takao Omori  & Carbell Ito vs. Yuma Aoyagi  & Yusuke Okada 
2. WRESTLE-1 Offer Match: Kaz Hayashi  vs. Alejandro 
3. Mitsuya Nagai  & Raijin Yaguchi vs. TAJIRI & Daisuke Sekimoto 
4. Tatsumi Fujinami , Kohei Sato  & X vs. NOSAWA Rongai, MAZADA & KAZMA SAKAMOTO
5. Shiro Koshinaka, AKIRA, Masashi Aoyagi, Akitoshi Saito  & with Great Kabuki vs. Kaito Kiyomiya , Daichi Hashimoto , Tetsuya Endo , Shotaro Ashino  & Kyu Mogami 

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1 hour ago, D.Z said:

Both are still good.

Fixed that for you.

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16 minutes ago, Edwin said:

Fixed that for you.

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How did Hashimoto Jr. turnout? I stopped following Japanese wrestling regularly when he was making his start in ZERO-ONE MAX. I remember he had a lot of buzz going around his debut and then he started working for BJW a bit.

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16 hours ago, Edwin said:

How did Hashimoto Jr. turnout? I stopped following Japanese wrestling regularly when he was making his start in ZERO-ONE MAX. I remember he had a lot of buzz going around his debut and then he started working for BJW a bit.

solid hand, still young at 26. his tag team with Kazuki Hashimoto (no relation) is good.

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19 hours ago, Contentious C said:

Jesus, Fujiwara is still trying to wrestle?  What's his signature move at this point, he shows the opponent the cover art of his porn video and they run out of the ring for a count-out?

there's a match from last year where he grapples Shinya Aoki to a time-limit draw that is honestly decent

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16 hours ago, Edwin said:

How did Hashimoto Jr. turnout? I stopped following Japanese wrestling regularly when he was making his start in ZERO-ONE MAX. I remember he had a lot of buzz going around his debut and then he started working for BJW a bit.

If you can track down the final show of the 2017 WSTL, there are two good Okami matches (Hashimoto and Hideyoshi Kamitani).

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19 hours ago, Infinit said:

How old is Masa Fuchi?? He was a lumpy, grumpy old bastard 20 years ago lol

20? He's been lumpy and grumpy since at least his Memphis run!

James

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Hashimoto had a weak period, but he seems to be finding his footing again with the tag team. He could get really lazy at times for a long stretch. Even when BJW had the belt on him.

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Speaking of Young Hash:

 

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That is the best lariat I've seen this century.

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That’s the best bump I’ve ever seen. Dude was floating there for a few seconds before he landed, and Bounced on his head like a marshmallow that fell on the ground.

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New AJP world tag champs.

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Kazumi Kikuta and Ryuichi Kawakami want the All Asia's tags.

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What would you consider muste see non-NJPW matches from 2018? I'm a little out of the loop on puro and looking to get back on track in 2019

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Marafuji vs Miyahara Champions Carnival final was amazing.

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In fact, I'm gonna rewatch that now.

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