Red is Dead Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Would you add Ziggler to the list? or is his incapability of being a face more of a result of him being a dick? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Maybe, but I've never really cared for him outside of his initial run as Vickie's toy boy (before they ruined it and started calling him the new and improved Dolph Ziggler purely because he'd... cut his hair and dyed it dark?). His fairly recent run when he took the title off Miz was okay but he didn't bring much to the table as a face and the Miz seemed to be doing all the legwork so you're probably right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Let's add Jake to the list. Being born-again is more of a heel move than being The Snake IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: Let's add Jake to the list. Being born-again is more of a heel move than being The Snake IMO. Jake was a pretty great babyface in Mid South before he jumped to the WWF. Also had a longish face run in Stampede when he was just starting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 And he was a great babyface for several years in WWF before the trust me turn. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 9 hours ago, Red is Dead said: Would you add Ziggler to the list? or is his incapability of being a face more of a result of him being a dick? Ziggler's last face run was my favorite of his career. He was bringing the fire in the build up to the Ambrose match at SummerSlam 2016 and of course the Miz feud was peak stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 10 hours ago, Red is Dead said: Would you add Ziggler to the list? or is his incapability of being a face more of a result of him being a dick? Ziggler has some really inspired babyface performances. Some of his face runs overstayed their welcome, but his top work is all as a face. The double turn match against Del Rio, the Surivior Series 2014 tag, and the Miz title vs. career match. I don't think he's done anything as a heel that sniffs those three matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Go2Sleep said: Ziggler has some really inspired babyface performances. Some of his face runs overstayed their welcome, but his top work is all as a face. The double turn match against Del Rio, the Surivior Series 2014 tag, and the Miz title vs. career match. I don't think he's done anything as a heel that sniffs those three matches. I'd put the Cena ladder match up with them, but that might be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 I don't remember any of those matches. We might as well put him in the mediocre thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 9 hours ago, Go2Sleep said: Ziggler has some really inspired babyface performances. Some of his face runs overstayed their welcome, but his top work is all as a face. The double turn match against Del Rio, the Surivior Series 2014 tag, and the Miz title vs. career match. I don't think he's done anything as a heel that sniffs those three matches. The Miz series was great, but that was far more about the Miz reaching new heights than Ziggler being a good babyface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 16 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: I don't remember any of those matches. We might as well put him in the mediocre thread. You don't remember the match where Sting debuted? I can kinda see the other two getting lost in the WWE shuffle (but seriously refresh your memory on the Del Rio Payback 2013 match, it's one of WWE's best this decade) since their product has been indistinguishable by year since 2008, but Sting's first WWE appearance seems like a hard match to forget. Not that the vast majority of Dolph's career hasn't been mediocre, but there's enough evidence out there to show he isn't incapable of being a babyface as the thread title suggests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Never watched it TBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowanole Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 What about a Bad News Brown/Allen? Idk if he was in Stampede, but I would think he would hard to get over as a face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 The best person to turn Bad News face against in the WWF? Ted DiBiase Let's imagine if DiBiase didn't try to pay off the Bossman and Slick to get back the Million Dollar Belt, but Bad News instead. You have DiBiase holding it over Bad News' head that he needs the money because his family is dirt poor. It could play out very similarly to the DiBiase/Virgil angle. If Bad News doesn't leave prior to the 1990 Survivor Series, he was going to be on the Million Dollar Team. I could see the same scenario as the past two years. Bad News gets accidentially hit by one of his partners, but instead of walking out, this time he snaps and takes it out on his partners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 9 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: The best person to turn Bad News face against in the WWF? Ted DiBiase Let's imagine if DiBiase didn't try to pay off the Bossman and Slick to get back the Million Dollar Belt, but Bad News instead. You have DiBiase holding it over Bad News' head that he needs the money because his family is dirt poor. It could play out very similarly to the DiBiase/Virgil angle. If Bad News doesn't leave prior to the 1990 Survivor Series, he was going to be on the Million Dollar Team. I could see the same scenario as the past two years. Bad News gets accidentially hit by one of his partners, but instead of walking out, this time he snaps and takes it out on his partners. Here's the issue with that: if they do the Virgil angle with Bad News in his place, does the need to turn Virgil ever arise? Does he just stick with Ted forever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhock Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, The Green Meanie said: Here's the issue with that: if they do the Virgil angle with Bad News in his place, does the need to turn Virgil ever arise? Does he just stick with Ted forever? Nah - just put Bad News in Piper’s role of getting Virgil to leave DiBiase, and then build an early version of the Nation of Domination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowanole Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 33 minutes ago, Hamhock said: Nah - just put Bad News in Piper’s role of getting Virgil to leave DiBiase, and then build an early version of the Nation of Domination. Can you imagine that unstoppable faction?!? Bad News Brown, Virgil, Koko B Ware and Slick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 3 hours ago, iowanole said: Can you imagine that unstoppable faction?!? Bad News Brown, Virgil, Koko B Ware, Akeem, and Slick fixed 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhock Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 My god, I just now realized how awesome a heel tag team of Bad News Brown and Koko (in pissed off Memphis mode) would have been - like a bizarro world Hart Foundation. Imagine their tag finisher: Koko hoists the opponent up into suplex position, Bad News Ghettoblasters the inverted head, Koko then drops them with the brainbuster. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 14 hours ago, iowanole said: Can you imagine that unstoppable faction?!? Bad News Brown, Virgil, Koko B Ware and Slick I know you joke but the fact that Bad News would be involved automatically makes that group unstoppable 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 How have we forgot about the Sheik this whole time? When your partner is Abdullah the Butcher and you even end up feuding with HIM, you've probably never been a face. Cue someone telling me he had an early Detroit face run in three, two, one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H. Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Shit even when t Sheik was in a tag match as a babyface he still turned on his partner (Dusty Rhodes no less) tht no one could honestly be shocked by it James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhock Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 hour ago, J.H. said: Shit even when t Sheik was in a tag match as a babyface he still turned on his partner (Dusty Rhodes no less) tht no one could honestly be shocked by it James That was the double turn where Murdoch then saved Dusty, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/8/2018 at 1:02 PM, Hamhock said: Nah - just put Bad News in Piper’s role of getting Virgil to leave DiBiase, and then build an early version of the Nation of Domination. I like this idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 9:11 PM, iowanole said: What about a Bad News Brown/Allen? I never rooted against Bad News Allen. The man was right. The system was rigged against Black Excellence. Getting to see Lex Luger get the shit beat out of him in CWF was just a bonus. My first answer would've been Abdullah the Butcher, but even he had a semi-credible face run at one point so my answers are Stan Hansen, Black Bart, and Cowboy Ron Bass. Yes, I know they all ran Texas / Cowboy gimmicks. I also don't think that there is even an alternate reality where The Mongols could run as a face tag team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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