OSJ Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, cubbymark said: My introduction to George Carlin was as Mr. Conductor #2 on Shining Time Station on PBS. Boy, was I thrown for a loop once I discovered how "dirty" and foul-mouthed he was as a comedian. Funny as hell... "Foul-mouthed"? The fuck you say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Log said: If I’m not mistaken, I think PCO may have trained Owens and Zayn. Skimming by, I initially read this as LCO training Owens and Zayn... ...which probably would've lead to Daniel Bryan begging to take the Death Lake Driver at Mania, And Shane wanting to take an avalanche electric chair drop off the Titantron or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Posting in main thread for newsiness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 I remember when PCO had that short run in TNA in like 2003 or 2004 as X. It was insane all the stuff he was doing. This video has the insane senton bomb to the floor that he did. Also has some footage of him vs. a young Kevin Steen and El Generico. Looking at this, it's clear where Steen/Owens got his moves from. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 On 4/20/2018 at 12:47 PM, Cristobal said: It's apparently just for a week because Coachman is doing something on the Golf Channel. Please say its getting beaten by a golf club. Edit: MoeCristyV.1.6, I am facetiously saying I hope Coach gets hit by a golf club because I dislike his commentary. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Has anyone been watching the old OVW episodes on Youtube? I have skipped around from 99 to 03 to 05 and it is always very good TV. I don't think Cornette gets enough credit for OVW's success. From what i have read, WWE did not provide much money, beyond paying some of the talent. They were a full time territory and drew well for its size. It makes me wonder what OVW could have done with the resources of NXT. I hope I am not jinxing it, but its impressive they have been going twenty years. I always knew the Spirit Squad was bad. But seeing these guys in OVW and WWE just killed the careers of four potential stars. Dolph is a survivor. gotta give him that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 On 4/20/2018 at 12:26 PM, OSJ said: What if it's actually a Saudi Prince? There are a hell of a lot of them. if the dynamics of various gulf states is any indicator, an actual Saudi Prince would just hire two wrestlers from the Indian subcontinent to do all the work for him Has anyone been watching the old OVW episodes on Youtube? I have skipped around from 99 to 03 to 05 and it is always very good TV. I don't think Cornette gets enough credit for OVW's success. From what i have read, WWE did not provide much money, beyond paying some of the talent. They were a full time territory and drew well for its size. It makes me wonder what OVW could have done with the resources of NXT. I hope I am not jinxing it, but its impressive they have been going twenty years. I always knew the Spirit Squad was bad. But seeing these guys in OVW and WWE just killed the careers of four potential stars. Dolph is a survivor. gotta give him that. wonder how much of the good OVW wasn't really distributed because of either people dropping out of the scene of circulating footage post-2001, or people whose tastes were much more northeast indies than OVW in those years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Partly I think it had this stigma of a WWE training house. So people think of it as amateur hour and not a real wrestling promotion. Which I will admit I am guilty of as well. Also WWE did not want OVW distributed because they were afraid it would poison the well on guys in developmental. Which has happened to a degree with NXT call ups. Where WWE expects people to know the intricacies of every act. Matt Morgan was impressive in OVW. I don't know how you see a guy like that who can talk and give him a stuttering gimmick. Maybe he would not have been the next Austin, but that is all they could think of? You could at least steal a main event with him. You could mention TNA, but WWE had poisoned the well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 If Matt Morgan had been motivated to get back to WWE, he would have got back just fine. He blew off the Japan gigs WWE set up for him to go Impact. Matt Morgan got married in 2005, and I believe is still married. I bet he's walking around in much better shape than would be the case if he had a big WWE career. I doubt he has significant regrets. On a slightly related note, iirc WWE switched the bulk of their wrestlers from Business Class to Coach. For a guy like like Matt Morgan, that would have been horrible. People talk about the Wellness policy, but I think a secondary reason people got lean was because of having to sit in coach a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Just looked up what Matt Morgan is doing now and he's District Commissioner of Longwood, FL so seems like he's doing ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 He was also working for a medical device sales company. I don't know if he was actually selling the products but those guys make bank. A couple of my buddies do it and they make 6 figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 14 hours ago, Victator said: Please say its getting beaten by a golf club. Eh, Coachman has probably watched golf in the past decade - unlike wrestling, which he seems to have watched nothing of since he left the company. He'll probably do fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 TIL: Matt Morgan graduated Magna Cum Laude with a degree in public speaking. Huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: TIL: Matt Morgan graduated Magna Cum Laude with a degree in public speaking. Huh. Especially impressive when you take into account his stuttering. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Keep Calm, Akira Hokuto On said: Eh, Coachman has probably watched golf in the past decade - unlike wrestling, which he seems to have watched nothing of since he left the company. He'll probably do fine. He can't do much worse than his wrestling announcing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Brian Fowler said: TIL: Matt Morgan graduated Magna Cum Laude with a degree in public speaking. Huh. ...and he gets stuck with a stuttering gimmick. Further proof WWE is run by emotionally stunted, vindictive children. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 He wasn't that good a promo to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRR Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Pretty sure they just liked fucking with Cornette because he was always such a crybaby about OVW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 TBH I don't know why Al Snow doesn't hit up Cornette to do commentary for OVW. It's in Louisville and as long as they're presenting something vaguely resembling episodic Southern 'rasslin, I can't see Cornette wanting a ridiculous paycheque for doing it. There's a market out there for it. Does Dean Hill still do ring announcing/commentary there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 7 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Especially impressive when you take into account his stuttering. Something tells me he did have a stutter and he used the public speaking program at whatever uni he went to to help overcome it. Once the WWE found out they went Droz on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Morgan could have tried the Samuel L. Jackson method for overcoming stuttering. It was a lot of repetition of one word. Definitely NSFW. Spoiler 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I did not bring up Morgan because it hurt him. Just to illustrate what a shit show WWE creative was in 05. They have serious issues now, but have improved in a lot of ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 On 22/04/2018 at 7:59 AM, Victator said: Matt Morgan was impressive in OVW. I don't know how you see a guy like that who can talk and give him a stuttering gimmick. Maybe he would not have been the next Austin, but that is all they could think of? You could at least steal a main event with him. You could mention TNA, but WWE had poisoned the well. I drank the cool aid on Morgan as well, thought he was a complete missed opportunity and pure money back then, but having seen his TNA run afterward quickly came to the conclusion that WWE dodged a bullet by not getting behind him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Speaking of hosses from the aughts whose careers went nowhere, does Nathan Jones still wrestle or is he just playing the oversize bad guys in redbox action movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 34 minutes ago, HumanChessgame said: Speaking of hosses from the aughts whose careers went nowhere, does Nathan Jones still wrestle or is he just playing the oversize bad guys in redbox action movies? Retired from wrestling in 2005. His post-WWE career consisted of three matches in Australia and no-showing a fourth match. There was a rumor about ten years ago that he was going to make a comeback in TNA, but nothing ever came of it (supposedly got hurt before he could sign with them). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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