Liam Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Without resorting to naming moves like the low blow and eye poke, are there moves that you think should be used solely by only either face or heel? It is entirely possible that people will have no specific answers, but thought it was worth throwing out there. I ask mainly because I feel that the backslide is the ultimate face move/flash pin spot, and just doesn't work as well when a heel uses it. Any other suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BReal Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Historically, heels weren't supposed to do anything flashy or cool, lest someone actually want to root for them. I always thought Hogan as a face doing the back rake was absurd, but we all know now Hogan was really a bigger shit heel than the men he was facing. But as I digress, an answer to your question would be that only faces should do sunset flips, monkey flips, and tope con hilos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Moose Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Polish Hammer for heels. Flying headscissors/hurricanrana for faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w. josh Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Airplane Spins/Giant Swings should only be done by faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I don't know if there's any non-cheating move where there's a hard line, but I do think back body drops work better when a face does them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Brainbuster and Powerbomb. Both should be done by heels only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zev Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Removing the top turnbuckle: heels only. Blocking the heel's attempt to ram you into the exposed steel, and then smashing the person into said steel: faces only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I think the concept is bullshit. Turnabout is fair play in wrestling and a face can use a heel move in revenge, any kind, if the proper psychology is behind it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Yeah, I think it's pretty much when and where you do things that matter. AJ Styles manages to do a lot of spectacular moves as a heel but it also took him a long time to figure which ones to do and when to do them. He also makes sure to take huge bumps and sell his ass off for the babyface to make whatever they've got look incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 This may be just me, and I exclude lucha, but I've always sorta thought arm drags were just done by good guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offspring515 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I always thought atomic drops were better when done by a face. The bad guy having to grab his tailbone and gingerly sell the move is good for a pop. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 The only move that really bothers me when a heel does it is a back bodydrop. It just feels wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Michael Sweetser said: The only move that really bothers me when a heel does it is a back bodydrop. It just feels wrong. The only acceptable back bodydrop I have seen heels perform is the double team version the SST did when they tried to launch you out of the ring. I don't really subscribe to the heel / face moveset school of thought as I have seen faces drop guys with DDTs and still keep their shine and I have seen heels like Mr. Perfect throw drop kicks with complete malice. As long as faces aren't doing any back rakes or eye pokes, I'm good with workers doing what they want so long as it makes for ring psychology sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Sugar Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Piper did an eyepoke as a heel or a face. He didn't change his style, he just changed who he fought against. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Piper was a special case though, like Eddy. Even as a babyface, he's still a rogueish dirty fighter. When you say moves that only a babyface should do, you're mean an archetypal surfer boy Sting guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 11 hours ago, offspring515 said: I always thought atomic drops were better when done by a face. The bad guy having to grab his tailbone and gingerly sell the move is good for a pop. I think this is the Rick Rude influence. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Hell, if Piper didn't have the eyepoke he'd have what, the sleeper, punches, and... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said: Hell, if Piper didn't have the eyepoke he'd have what, the sleeper, punches, and... Finger rake across the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zev Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Piper was better than most wrestlers at using a fire extinguisher. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Piper had to stop using his ddt after he killed poor Rick McGraw with it... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 He did some pretty poor attempts at mat wrestling in thst team wcw gauntlet tryout on nitro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zev Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Smashing a gold record over someone's head was the move that first actually got me interested in WWF programming. Got to list that one. Piper never needed a Phoenix splash. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offspring515 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 12 hours ago, Wyld Samurai said: I think this is the Rick Rude influence. Yes he's the very guy that first came to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 23 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: Hell, if Piper didn't have the eyepoke he'd have what, the sleeper, punches, and... Charisma. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I recall Piper executing a vertical suplex being sold as a huge high spot by Tony Skeeavone during his Starrcade 96 match against Hogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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