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[Dolfan in NYC]

A noose was found in Bubba Wallace's garage in Talladega today.

[Gonzo]

16 minutes ago, Dolfan in NYC said:

A noose was found in Bubba Wallace's garage in Talladega today.

Suspend the whole damn season until it's discovered who did it.

And if it was a member of another team, kick the entire damn team off the circuit.

[Jenalysis]

It had to be someone from within, as the events are still closed to the public.

 

[Pete]

7 hours ago, Gonzo said:

Suspend the whole damn season until it's discovered who did it.

And if it was a member of another team, kick the entire damn team off the circuit.

I'm really, REALLY hoping it wasn't an inside job. If someone on his team did it, they will never hear the end of this.

[NikoBaltimore]

That really pisses me off.  I always liked Bubba but like him exponentially more with all that he's done regarding BLM.  And while I would watch Nascar just so I have to something talk about with some of my friends Nascar's surprisingly (to me) progressive approach made me like them that much more.  But with this very welcome change it was inevitably going to clash with the flatscans that still celebrate that stupid flag.  Reading about the noose incident there were already fans who gathered sporting Confederate flag stuff everywhere.  And apparently a plane flew overhead with the flag and had a message saying "Defund Nascar". 

So that alone would have annoyed the crap out of me and it could be something that doesn't truly go away for awhile.  But to read about a noose in Bubba's garage?  Fuck that shit, I hope whoever did it gets punished and shamed for all eternity.  I will say that Bubba handled that with class and I really hope to see him win a race.  The guy from what I saw tends to be in the middle of the pack a lot of times and I'm hoping that changes for the better.

Edited June 22, 2020 by NikoBaltimore

[hammerva]

9 hours ago, alstein said:

It had to be someone from within, as the events are still closed to the public.

 

The thing that makes me think that it wasn't an inside job is that apparently they got the noose out before Bubba saw it.  So either they know already who did it and covered it up or the person who did it wasn't working when it happened.

 

[Dolfan in NYC]

(Do not, under any circumstances, read the replies.)  

[Pete]

You come at the King, you best not miss. The responses to this are actually surprisingly level-headed and measured... not what you would expect at all.

Just kidding- they're exactly what you would expect.

[NikoBaltimore]

First few replies for both were good. I'm quitting while I'm ahead. 

And that video? Yeah, that got me. Really happy with all Nascar has done even it means they'll be dealing with racist shit for awhile. 

[Raziel]

Man, you think if they'd listen to anyone, it would've been The King.

[MavsFan77]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/fbi-finds-no-crime-over-noose-bubba-wallace-nascar-garage-n1231951
 

So basically NASCAR wasted the FBI’s time. 

[Pete]

Actual conversation between me and the wife follows.

Quote

"Wait, who's Richard Petty again?"
"You know Bubba Wallace, right?"
"Yes."
"Richard Petty is his owner. WOW, that came out poorly."

 

[Death From Above]

If people really want to believe this shit is coincidence, lol, okay buddy

Also NASCAR not backing down on this despite being given a very easy out to do so is the plot twist I never expected.

[Raziel]

On 6/23/2020 at 6:59 PM, MavsFan77 said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/fbi-finds-no-crime-over-noose-bubba-wallace-nascar-garage-n1231951
 

So basically NASCAR wasted the FBI’s time. 

Yes, waste of time...

[supremebve]

4 hours ago, Raziel said:

Yes, waste of time...

They checked every garage at every NASCAR track, there were less than 10 with a pull rope with a knot in in, but only one tied in a noose.  They had every reason to think this was racially motivated (I'm skeptical about how easily they've dismissed this).  Especially when there were multiple people waving confederate flags outside of the track.  

[MavsFan77]

5 hours ago, Raziel said:

Yes, waste of time...

It had been according to even NASCAR there since last October. So clearly it wasn’t directed at Bubba (thank god). So yes they did waste the FBI’s time. 

If they’d investigated it last October they would’ve had the answers they now can’t find, and none of this would have happened. 

Which leads to one major question. As a security precaution why aren’t there cameras installed at all the tracks and the garages? That way if there’s ever an incident (like even just your run of the mill driver fight) there’s evidence of it, and it’s easier for law enforcement to handle things properly. 

Edited June 25, 2020 by MavsFan77

[supremebve]

13 minutes ago, MavsFan77 said:

It had been according to even NASCAR there since last October. So clearly it wasn’t directed at Bubba (thank god). So yes they did waste the FBI’s time. 

If they’d investigated it last October they would’ve had the answers they now can’t find, and none of this would have happened. 

Which leads to one major question. As a security precaution why aren’t there cameras installed at all the tracks and the garages? That way if there’s ever an incident (like even just your run of the mill driver fight) there’s evidence of it, and it’s easier for law enforcement to handle things properly. 

Dude, they banned confederate flags, have a BLM car, and only have one black driver.  There was a noose hanging in the garage where the only black driver stored his car, and no other NASCAR garage in the entire country.  Nope, NASCAR shouldn't ask any questions about that.  Let's not mention that there were multiple people waving confederate flags outside of the track, and a plane flying a confederate flag banner over the track, it would have been completely and totally irresponsible for them not to do everything in their power to investigate this.

[MavsFan77]

12 minutes ago, supremebve said:

Dude, they banned confederate flags, have a BLM car, and only have one black driver.  There was a noose hanging in the garage where the only black driver stored his car, and no other NASCAR garage in the entire country.  Nope, NASCAR shouldn't ask any questions about that.  Let's not mention that there were multiple people waving confederate flags outside of the track, and a plane flying a confederate flag banner over the track, it would have been completely and totally irresponsible for them not to do everything in their power to investigate this.

I’m saying they didn’t need the FBI since they (the FBI) found no evidence of a hate crime being committed.

You keep bringing up fans outside the track, and I understand that. However none of them had access to the garage area, and as I pointed out the noose had been there since October. NASCAR themselves said nobody would’ve known ahead of time that Bubba was going to be assigned that garage either. So how exactly does that lead to anyone trying to harm/offend him? 

And when did I say they shouldn’t ask questions? 

[(BP)]

The real question: Who cares if they wasted the FBI’s time?

[supremebve]

1 minute ago, MavsFan77 said:

I’m saying they didn’t need the FBI since they (the FBI) found no evidence of a hate crime being committed.

You keep bringing up fans outside the track, and I understand that. However none of them had access to the garage area, and as I pointed out the noose had been there since October. NASCAR themselves said nobody would’ve known ahead of time that Bubba was going to be assigned that garage either. So how exactly does that lead to anyone trying to harm/offend him? 

And when did I say they shouldn’t ask questions? 

You said it was a waste of time, which it wasn't.  They're trying to change the perception that their sport is not a safe place for black people.  If they can get the FBI to investigate this situation, it is the exact opposite of a waste of time.  They literally did everything they could to make Bubba Wallace know that he was safe.  That's not a waste.

[Ryan]

How would they know it's a "waste of their time" without them actually looking into it? They couldn't just do nothing at all.

[Pete]

Bubba went full Duke Boy at Pocono.

[BEN!]

On 6/25/2020 at 1:09 PM, Raziel said:

Yes, waste of time...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbMXowHWAAEXhB8?format=jpg

It was hand-sized.

[NikoBaltimore]

This may or may not still need to be said considering what some have said earlier.  So just in case I'll put this in spoilers.

Sorry, but I can't help but wonder what good it does to point out it's a waste of time.  Yes, the loop is hand-sized and it I do believe that it was there since October.  And I can also believe that it was an unfortunate coincidence that it was in Bubba's of all places.  But considering it looks very much like a noose and there were a few lynchings going on around that time to look into this is far from a waste of time.  I can't relate but I would imagine if I was a black driver and with all that was going on saw that I would be mortified and want to have this fully looked into.  And with very good reason.  So I hope we can drop this "waste of time" stuff for good. 

[Dewar]

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