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[MOVIE] JANUARY 2016 DISCUSSION


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...and that just reminded me of Grandma's Boy. 

 

EDIT: Wow we are all sleeping on this:

 

BAD SANTA

 

Good shout. Can't believe we forgot Bad Santa. Oh to see the executives reactions when that film was pitched:

 

Update:

 

1. Shaun of the Dead

2. Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy

3. In the Loop

4. Four Lions

5. Bad Santa

6. Hot Fuzz

7. The 40-Year-Old Virgin

8. Zoolander

9. Tropic Thunder

10. Team America: World Police

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Has anyone here seen Extract?

Yes, and I didn't really think it was very good or very funny. Barely held my attention.

 

On a related note, this great article from yesterday made me think about Office Space in a new way and now I really want to rewatch it. http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/01/corporations-free-marketing-instagram/423465/

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I just found out today that there's a movie from a few years back with Al Pacino, Juliette Binoche, Channing Tatum and Tracy Morgan.

 

Pacino and Binoche just have small roles, I think... and I know Pacino will do whatever nowadays... but still!

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I watched it over a few nights on HBO Go.

The rhythm of the Michael segments of Part II are really thrown off by having the Young Vito segments not intercut into it, especially the Cuba stretch.

I do like getting a lot of the extended and deleted scenes.

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Aside from the Fredo stuff and a rare chance to see Lee Strasberg chewing scenery, the uncomfortable truth is that a whole lot of the 1950s bits of Part 2 are really fucking boring. All that bullshit involving a bunch of people in dark rooms holding quiet conversations about the Senate and Cuba, that's all just as lame as any of the convoluted Vatican conspiracies in part 3. Part 2's real power has always rested in the Young Vito scenes, which blow away the 1950s stuff without even trying.

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That and two stunningly great scenes with Pacino. The "your dead to me Fredo" absent and the "It was an abortion, Michael" scene are two of the finest in the history of American film history.

But Christ is Cuba boring.

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GD Spradlin's scenes in Part II get me everytime. In addition, when Hagen's silent nod telling Al Neri (cleaning fresh hooker blood from his hands) to get the fuck back in the bathroom before he blows the whole thing is tremendous.

 

So between Hyman Roth, Senator Geary, and John Cazale being amazing, there is enough stuff with the new casino and Cuba business for me to not turn the channel or find something else to do. Is the Pentangeli/Rosato brother stuff as good the Five Families? No, and I am saying this as someone who loves Part II more than Part I. However, the interaction between Michael and Fredo is the selling point.

 

With that said, you would think it would be hard to top John Marley's overacting portrayal of a greedy Jew in Part I. Then, Lee Strasberg delivers in spades. Holy shit.

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The little subplot with the senator is really good.

I definitely don't hate the 50's part, but it is without question the weakest part of the first two films. Which is a relative thing, given how fucking great the rest is.

But cutting the two generation jumps out really highlights the weakness of the Michael part, you know?

Heaven help the poor actor that is cast as Vito when the inevitable remake finally happens.

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The little subplot with the senator is really good.

I definitely don't hate the 50's part, but it is without question the weakest part of the first two films. Which is a relative thing, given how fucking great the rest is.

But cutting the two generation jumps out really highlights the weakness of the Michael part, you know?

Heaven help the poor actor that is cast as Vito when the inevitable remake finally happens.

 

You would think Paramount only lets Scorsese get his hands on it. If so, then he would probably cast DiCaprio as Michael. Now who you cast as Vito...if it's not like DDL, then why even bother? Unless, you're trying to recreate the same situation and find a legendary actor who has been in a string of bombs. Then, we probably end up with a Sleuth 2007 type deal where Al Pacino is playing Vito now. That could be...awful.

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"Three people have played this role, one was a kid who didn't speak. The other two won Oscars and gave two of the most iconic performances in the history of American film... You want the part? "

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"Three people have played this role, one was a kid who didn't speak. The other two won Oscars and gave two of the most iconic performances in the history of American film... You want the part? "

 

So if you can do something that's more than singing while staring through of a window, you're automatically the third best person to portray that character. Small victories.

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The scene at the end where Cruise is lecturing the emperor of Japan on the inner meaning and true importance of his own nation and people was offensively terrible, it literally felt like a Kirk Cameron sermon. And then they stop the villains by having the emperor basically say "hey guys, quit it"; why didn't you do that shit two hours ago?!

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Man, I'm the complete opposite on the Cuba/young Vito stuff. I'm not interested at all in young Vito. The Godfather series is Michael's story. Young Vito's parts really don't add much of anything to the themes and similarities of Vito/Michael already presented in the first movie. It worked much better in the book for me. I would have been completely happy if the Vito stuff was never in 2, and it was entirely focused on Michael.  Which is not to say GFII isn't a tremendous movie or anything, but I was never interested in Vito. Vito's parts take away from Michael's, without really adding much new. 

 

The specifics of what Vito did as a young man weren't really important. The compare/contrast thing was already done in the first movie, so doing it again seemed a bit superfluous to me. I didn't find any of the Michael stuff in 2 to be boring at all. I wish there was more of it.

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