Craig H Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Malenko was one of my top 5 favorite wrestlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnowsWrestling Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Def a top 5 for me from ecw and wcw, lost interest when he moved to wwe. Then again arn Anderson and stunning steve were my favs outside of hogan in the early to mid 90s when I was like 8 years old so I'm probably just nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I'm definitely not hating on Malenko or trying to say that he wrestled "the wrong way." As I said, he was crucial in differentiating Nitro from RAW. I just think that in retrospect, his work isn't as fun to watch because now everyone in the WWE wrestles that sort of spot-heavy go-go-go type of match. I do enjoy Malenko on my re-watch of Nitro, but certainly not as much as I did in 1995-1997, and that's almost certainly because in a broad sense his style is over-saturated now. Not really his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 He was Danielson's favorite wrestler. Read that how you may. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Dean Malenko: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoeCristyV.1.6 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Didn't Malenko get Wrestler of the year in 1997 or something? And I too had the Iceman in my FAVE FIVE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodzillaPerez Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 He was #1 in the 1997 PWI 500. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I don't know that he was in my top 5, but I thought pretty highly of Dean and recall telling someone that he'd be one of my top five picks to build a promotion around back in 1997-1998, the others would have been Hennig, Benoit, La Parka, & Eddie. So, of your top two faces, one doesn't speak English and the other isn't exactly great on the stick. With Eddie and Hennig to run their mouths and Dean as the enigmatic tweener, you'd still be off to a solid start. You could roll out any five bums in there and still get nothing worse than *** matches. If your doubling up the workload to get some tag matches, you can really elevate things, as there are no combinations of these guys that wouldn't make a great tag-team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I'm in the "dean's stuff hasn't aged well" camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I don't know what the rules regarding WWE stuff are, but Brock/Sheamus is floating around at the moment. I posted it to my twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I'd like to point out that the "cheap seats" at NXT shows are priced higher than those of Raw or Smackdown. For general admission, standing only seats. Quite a racket you got going there, HHH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Do people who think Dean's stuff hasn't aged well feel the same way about Rey? I think both of their work from the mid to late 90s has aged fine. For Dean, a lot of his movez were working a body part in an interesting way or crazy pinning combos (fitting that Bryan liked him so much) so his matches usually had some story and focus on trying to win. Plus he was good at being subtly cocky as a heel and fired up as a face so he usually had a good character touch in his matches as well. Rey would be more likely to suffer from everyone copying his style, but in addition to his size and natural babyface aura giving all his matches an easy story to build around, he still did moves back then that you don't see people doing today (or at least not as well). Also, it should be mentioned that the overkill style in the mid-late 90s was different than what you see in WWE today. It still benefited from the idea that guys could have multiple finishers and matches could end on other big non-fisher moves, as well as the idea that a match didn't have to be long to be good. It was fast-paced and had a lot of nearfalls, but very little if any time-padding and finisher kickouts (unless you're talking about AJPW) that make the style a drag today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Plus, most of Dean and Rey's best work were in 10 minute TV matches instead of 20 minute PPV matches with 8 minutes of filler. MOVEZ dudes and wacky junior/lucha style is a lot easier to enjoy when they're in short TV matches instead of long PPV matches that go nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Here's Brock vs. Sheamus from last night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UsgjXdFBd8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Brock got hardwayed on brogue kick... I know the house show matches are pretty by-the-numbers, but I'd like to see an all-out slugfest with Brock against Sheamus or Del Rio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I'm in the "dean's stuff hasn't aged well" camp. What about his theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 I'm in the "dean's stuff hasn't aged well" camp. If Joe is in that camp - you and I are going to have words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Why would Joe be rating his brother's matches with me? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I'd like to point out that the "cheap seats" at NXT shows are priced higher than those of Raw or Smackdown. For general admission, standing only seats. Quite a racket you got going there, HHH. And a burger at a high-end steakhouse will cost you more than a steak at Denny's. This does not seem unreasonable to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Something to remember is that Bischoff hired Malenko/Benoit/Eddy/other cruisers to be his "human car crash segment" - it was intended for the cruisers to fly all around and do crazy shit and tons of moves in order to keep the audience's interest compared to the much slower heavyweights dominating the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I'd like to point out that the "cheap seats" at NXT shows are priced higher than those of Raw or Smackdown. For general admission, standing only seats. Quite a racket you got going there, HHH. And a burger at a high-end steakhouse will cost you more than a steak at Denny's. This does not seem unreasonable to me. Those high end entrees like Blake and Murphy, Bull Dempsy, Elias Sampson, Alex Riley, Mojo, etc etc. A NXT house show should not be priced higher than Raw and Smackdown TV events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 NXT is a niche product compared to WWE, and niche products get niche prices. From a business standpoint, why would they lower prices? Apparently the market can support it because they're selling out everywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stefanie Without Stefanie Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The price is worth whatever people are willing to pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I still don't get why they used Brock at a house show but not to pop a bigger number for the first Smackdown on USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintthecrippler Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I'm just really fearful that with Brock wrestling Alberto a month ago and Rusev running in then, and wrestling Sheamus last night, that they're entertaining ideas of bringing back Brock for a feud with League of Nations. Because that would just be a waste of Brock I think, even if it's a monthlong placeholder for the PPV between Rumble and Mania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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