Casey Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I'm saying I don't believe it, and they're trying to manage the bad PR they're getting right now on all fronts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Using Twitter trends as a sign of real movements is slightly flawed. The top tweet in that CancelWWENetwork trend got 75 RTs (the Bix tweet). A lot of top Twitter trends stick at the top because bots spam every top trend. This is pro wrestling, not an election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 LOL at thinking a Twitter Hashtag fan uprising affected the Network numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 When something like TIME reports on your paying customers' dissatisfaction, you have a problem and you need to control it. Because WWE has never released embelished press releases before that almost got them into hot water. LOL at believing everything you're spoon fed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Its not outside the realm of possibility that the number of people pissy enough to cancel is less than the people that aren't Wrestling Message Board Posters or the City of Philadelphia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I realize that, and I actually agree with you. In the short term, it's not going to cause any real damage to their numbers. If they continue to piss all over their customers, yeah, it could become a problem. All I'm saying is this - They might be at 1mil right now. That's cool, I don't really care if they are or not. But it's very clear it's a PR move to manage their brand perception at this moment, when MAINSTREAM MEDIA is reporting on that hashtag (that probably doesn't mean jackshit, truth be told). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 The bolded is the point. Â A near irrelevant magazine's web edition is reporting on a hashtag. Â TIME is the only one that did. Â That's not speaking much to the movement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Everyone loves WWE and everything is okay - got it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Wait, a press release might be a public relations move? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Everyone loves WWE and everything is okay - got it. No, Â But its not the press the YES! stuff got last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I guess I should have said DAMAGE CONTROL, but then I would get laughed at for having an unpopular opinion. Jokes on me! Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Oddly quiet on my area's indy front for the last two weeks of January. Nothing this past weekend and nothing this coming weekend except for Metro Pro in Kansas City (Christopher Daniels vs. Jeremy Wyatt). Have heard good things about their shows but haven't made the cross-state drive to see them yet. The closest I came to driving to KC for an indy show was when an event had A.J. Styles vs. Dingo.Anywho, here's February as I know it:-Friday 2/6: 3XW in Des Moines, IA (Jeremy Wyatt vs. Rory Fox for the title)-Saturday 2/7: Dynamo Pro Wrestling in Fenton, MO (Mike Outlaw vs. Brandon Espinosa for the title, Jake Dirden & Jackal vs. Guns                          & Beer for the tag titles)                        Mid-Missouri Wrestling Alliance at the South Broadway Athletic Club in St. Louis, MO (Da'Marius Jones vs. Brian                          James for the title, plus Bobby Eaton appearing)-Sunday 2/8: Wrestling Invades America in Edwardsville, IL in the Meridian Ballroom at SIUE (Jonathan Napier vs. Christian Rose vs.                          Paco Gonzalez vs. Mallaki Matthews for the title, Brandon Espinosa vs. Matt Cage, Hooligans vs. Viking War Party)-Sunday 2/15: High Risk Wrestling in Belleville, IL (Tommaso Ciampa vs. Moose, Cedric Alexander vs. Jonathan Gresham, Bolt Brady                         vs. Mike Sydal, Trevor Murdoch vs. Caleb Konley vs. Blake Belakis, Bravado Brothers vs. New Midnight Express w/                         Bobby Eaton, Tony Kozina vs. Silas Young)-Saturday 2/21: Southern Illinois Championship Wrestling in East Carondelet, IL (Flash Flanagan vs. Gary Jackson for the title, Red                            River Jack vs. Attila Khan, plus appearance by J.J. Dillon)                         World League Wrestling in Troy, MO                         World Powerhouse Wrestling in Collinsville, IL (Xavier Frost vs. Scar for the title)-Saturday 2/28: World League Wrestling in Excelsior Springs, MO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I guess I should have said DAMAGE CONTROL, but then I would get laughed at for having an unpopular opinion. Jokes on me! Weirdly enough, that Blizzard Raw might have stopped the bleeding a little and might even be a turning point best-case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I mentioned in the Rumble thread how I cancelled my subscription. I know many are going to make fun of me that I did, but I have to stick to my guns on this one. The Network is the only money WWE gets from me, so how else am I supposed to show my dissatisfaction with the product? Count on other subscription cancellations? Stop watching Raw? (which doesn't matter, I'm not a Nielsen family). Â For me, it's not a matter of "I'm gonna stick it to 'em by stealing the PPVs and RAW" it's more the fact that I just want something different, and need time to cool out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notoriusvig Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 How many folks that cancelled after Sunday, would have re-subbed come Mania? Some of those same people would have probably cancelled no matter what happened. They sub for the big stuff and cancel the rest of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I mentioned in the Rumble thread how I cancelled my subscription. I know many are going to make fun of me that I did, but I have to stick to my guns on this one.  I never understand this. Not necessarily here, but in some places, people insult consumers that don't like the Thanksgiving dinner sides they are consuming as whiny or entitled or whatever.  As a consumer, if I don't like the Thanksgiving dinner sides that I'm consuming, it only makes sense that I shouldn't put money into it personally. Some people seem to think that the producer of content is owed the consumer's money.  Personally, I'm sticking with the Network because I like old PPVs easily at hand instead of having to deal with bad video or missing video on YouTube/Daily Motion and because NXT is the best, but anyone who can't stand the current Thanksgiving dinner sides and sees that as the central purpose for having the Network is right to cancel.  Now complaining about the current Thanksgiving dinner sides and not caring about the other stuff on the Network, but still paying for it? Yeah, that makes no sense. Vote with your wallet and wait to hear if the current Thanksgiving dinner sides get better before rewarding Vince McMahon with your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I mentioned in the Rumble thread how I cancelled my subscription. I know many are going to make fun of me that I did, but I have to stick to my guns on this one. The Network is the only money WWE gets from me, so how else am I supposed to show my dissatisfaction with stuffing instead of potatoes? Count on other subscription cancellations? Stop watching Raw? (which doesn't matter, I'm not a Nielsen family). Â For me, it's not a matter of "I'm gonna stick it to 'em by stealing the PPVs and RAW" it's more the fact that I just want something different, and need time to cool out Same here. I really don't feel the need to see Fast Lane as I've been greatly disppointed by the last 2 PPVs. If the mania card is good, I'll re-sub at that time and give it another shot but I'm taking at least a month off. Â *edit* Â Is Thanksgiving dinner sides a framistan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Â I guess I should have said DAMAGE CONTROL, but then I would get laughed at for having an unpopular opinion. Jokes on me! Weirdly enough, that Blizzard Raw might have stopped the bleeding a little and might even be a turning point best-case. Â Â I dunno, given the crowd that Mania usually draws, Roman Reigns is going to be booed out of the building and it'll carry over the next night to RAW. So when the most eyeballs are on the "new guy" he'll be seen as a reject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Harms Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I haven't cancelled my subscription. I've only just got it (UK). I'm not particularly interested in Roman Reigns as the guy and was disappointed by the Rumble. Having said that, I did enjoy the fan reaction at the arena because I don't believe just because we're fans of pro wrestling that we have to enjoy whatever it is we're spoon-fed. So even though I didn't cancel my subscription I fully support those who chose to and I ended up arguing with those on twitter that said "you're not a true fan if you cancel" or "cancelling is dumb". Because if I'm a consumer and I'm dissatisfied with a pro-duct (I'm English I don't do thanksgiving), I no longer give my money to that company. That's business. And no company is owed any loyalty in that respect, it's earned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 2/24/14: I subscribed to the Network. 1/25/15: I cancelled my subscription. Billing cycles being what they are, my subscription will end 2/24/15. If you think WWE isn't counting me in their "1 million", you are kidding yourself. If you aren't kidding yourself, you can do the math and recognize that the impact of #CancelWWENetwork, whatever it is, could not possibly be determined from that press release. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHFP Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 We'll know more in a couple of months, none of this will matter if they drop below 1 million after Mania anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.J. Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 God, you guys are cynical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 And yet I was STILL disappointed by the Rumble... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 For what it's worth, my roommates used my WWE Network subscription to watch a couple of Daniel Bryan matches after reading about all of this through a non-wrestling site.  They're not wrestling fans at all but are into Daniel Bryan now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 The actual Rumble match fell flat at the end but that Title match was Balls to the Wall awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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