cwoy2j Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 And to the guy who asked who'd be in my top 5 faces if Jarrett is in it, I think faces should be likeable, have a believability about them, and give you moments that make you glad you watch pro wrestling. I am not big on ranking or whatever you call it. So which of these attributes does Jeff Jarrett possess? I count 0. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valcourt Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Where can I get last nights NJPW show? I love me some dark Kenny omega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I like Jeff Jarrett as a heel. As a face though, his "OVERCOME THE ODDS" moments make John Cena look modest. Does anyone else remember the Raven/Jarrett match from 03? That was a ridiculous bit of booking that made no one look good except Jarrett and buried like a solid 5 other guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay Gold Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 The NJPW shows are usually up on Dailymotion within a day or two of them airing. Dark Kenny Omega match you say? Then it's a true dark match because I don't think it was taped. It's not on the playlist I started to watch earlier (which includes a pre show match). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Cody's a solid pro wrestling who has had fun gimmicks that he's delivered to various degrees of quality. He's the proverbial "good hand" who has good matches and definitely has fun with wrestling. However, he's not someone who can anchor a promotion, although he arguably did during the awesome Rhodes Family vs. The Authority stretch last year. I have to rewatch those matches because the Raw match where they won the belts was my MOTY in 2013 and the match where they won their jobs back was really high on the list, too.I tuned out during the Stardust and Goldust Cosmic Key promos but I enjoy watching them in the ring. I loved the "Dashing" Cody Rhodes gimmick but wasn't a huge fan of his in-ring work at the time, and I have no idea why. I loved the Phantom Of The Opera bit and his tag team with Sandow, too. He's a perfectly fine mid-card act. No shame in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebbie Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 And to the guy who asked who'd be in my top 5 faces if Jarrett is in it, I think faces should be likeable, have a believability about them, and give you moments that make you glad you watch pro wrestling. I am not big on ranking or whatever you call it. So which of these attributes does Jeff Jarrett possess? I count 0. Like I said, Jarrett gets a lot of shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Austin Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 The NJPW shows are usually up on Dailymotion within a day or two of them airing. Dark Kenny Omega match you say? Then it's a true dark match because I don't think it was taped. It's not on the playlist I started to watch earlier (which includes a pre show match). Thanks for the tip! I was hoping to see the Chase Owens vs Jushin Liger match and voila it was there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 The NJPW shows are usually up on Dailymotion within a day or two of them airing. Dark Kenny Omega match you say? Then it's a true dark match because I don't think it was taped. It's not on the playlist I started to watch earlier (which includes a pre show match). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I think Jeff Jarrett is a great worker but I don't know about an all-time great babyface. Honestly, other than the TNA stuff with Angle that you mentioned, I'm struggling to remember him being a babyface at all. So for a guy who's been from Memphis to New Gen WWF to WCW to early-Attitude WWF to dying-days WCW, I'm not sure it's fair to judge him based on something that happened in TNA only a couple of years ago. And I know that sounds negative toward Jarrett, but I actually do like a lot of his stuff. I thought along with the Kliq, Bret and Owen he was one of the only bright spots of the New Generation lean years. If it weren't for the lame Aztec gear, the NWA invasion flopping, and Austin not wanting to work with him, I think his late '97 WWF character could have been something really cool. There were times in WCW where even as the cho-cho-Chosen One, I didn't mind his mic work ("Slapnuts" is still a thing of genius). And I absolutely loved his tag team with Owen. I think he catches shit for: 1) the Chyna matches 2) The way he left the WWF 3) His relationship with Russo in WCW and later, TNA 4) The way he was booked (or booked himself, whatever) in the early years of TNA as this unfuckable heel champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre013 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 He was force fed on the Memphis promotion ala Erik Watts and Mike Von Erich. Decent wrestler, got it, but I would say he was a distant 3rd or 4th babyface in Memphis, much less all time. I can only think of one time I was interested in Jarrett...when he returned to WWF after his horsemen run in WCW and blasted Bischoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I liked Jarrett the most from mid 1998 until he left the WWF. He was a pretty good douchebag heel and his tag team with Owen is criminally overlooked. It's too bad Russo loved splitting teams because I would've liked to have seen them get an extended run. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mco543 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I'll forever have a soft spot for Jarrett because of his run in the NWA stable during the Attitude Era. Upon rewatching that stuff the NWA thing was one of the biggest highlights for me because it seemed like it took place in an alternate dimension. It was completely and utterly different from everything else that was going on in the WWE at that time. I still wish it would've lasted longer and they could've gotten a main event run, they would've made perfect foils for the modern day Attitude stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianChris Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Anyone heard of a Roulette Match? Sounds like Dallas would have 8- man roulette matches in the 70s; alternate name for battle royal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Superstars spoiler: This promo is fucking awesome. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre013 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I'm of the opinion that Ryback could be an interesting match for Lesnar if handled right and allowed to show his entertaining personality from Twitter. Supposedly not a favorite of Triple H and Stephanie (dirtsheet shit I read during his first push so probably wrong), but I find him interesting. Thoughts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I also think he would be a good match for Lesnar if properly handled. Of course, in my mind, that ship sailed-- my idea was that there should have been a Heyman Family stable with he, Axel, Cesaro, and Brock, which then leads to a Ryback baby turn on Brock, where he then has to run through the whole gauntlet before getting to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Ryback is on another level right now as a promo.....there was a nod to Chris Jericho in the reference to 'Horowitz & Maven' line, but he's got enough personality of his own to make it work. Axel did well to keep up with him there; he may be worth keeping around yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Axel is a solid worker. There's no reason why he shouldn't be in the I.C. title hunt. Ryback has a second chance and is making the most of it... damn. Let's hope they don't fuck it up this time. He should have squashed Punk like a bug. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Agreed that Axel is a solid worker, but he's also a charisma vacuum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Ryback looks to have found one of the two missing pieces which he didn't have two years ago, which is an actual personality, (rather than just "intense, screamy guy",) and the ability to translate that to the fans. Now we just need to see if he can go in singles matches of main event length. As Roman Reigns' post-Shield efforts showed, that deficiency can be hidden in tags and shorter singles matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Main events shouldn't have to be 25+ minutes long. That's part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbat Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Ryback looks to have found one of the two missing pieces which he didn't have two years ago, which is an actual personality, (rather than just "intense, screamy guy",) and the ability to translate that to the fans. Now we just need to see if he can go in singles matches of main event length. As Roman Reigns' post-Shield efforts showed, that deficiency can be hidden in tags and shorter singles matches. Dude motherfucker were chanting "feed me more" across the country. I don't understand how we (or the company) judges talent by what they don't do instead of what they do. And booking champions to lose is fuckin dumb no matter what. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Agreed that Axel is a solid worker, but he's also a charisma vacuum. He showed more in that promo than he ever has before on tv. Maybe he didn't get all of his father's tools, but there's definitely something there. I wouldn't mind seeing him working in NXT for while. It seems to have rejuvinated Tyson Kidd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 And to the guy who asked who'd be in my top 5 faces if Jarrett is in it, I think faces should be likeable, have a believability about them, and give you moments that make you glad you watch pro wrestling. I am not big on ranking or whatever you call it. So which of these attributes does Jeff Jarrett possess? I count 0. Like I said, Jarrett gets a lot of shit. He's not a bad wrestler by any stretch. He's very good as a shit bag heel and I enjoyed his Chosen One run. Top 5 babyface though? I'm not even gonna buy that for a dollar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianChris Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Who are The Barbarians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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