Victator Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 At the time it was suppose to lead to Bret dropping the belt in the four corners match at the December ppv. His contract did not run out til mid December. There was a lot of shit going on. I don't (and Bret doesn't for that matter) think it had anything to do with money. The WWF had a new direction and they knew Bret was not going to go along with it. Though after a year in WCW, I think Bret was ready to come back. If Owen did not die, I can't imagine him staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 He did an interview in Power Slam while he was still in WCW, where he was asked if he missed the WWF. He said he did, but he didn't miss it the way it 'is now' (in 1999), he missed it the way it was (when he was there). He was upset about how they were setting up a Hart Foundation vs NoD feud with the racist graffitti in the locker room angle as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Can't remember if this was discussed or not but what if The Ultimate Warrior goes on that tour of Japan and gets the Big Van Vader gimmick that Inoki intended for him instead of Leon White? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 He flakes out and then flames out the same way in Japan that he did here in the states. Maybe we get Hogan vs Earthquake for Mania 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 He flakes out and then flames out the same way in Japan that he did here in the states. Maybe we get Hogan vs Earthquake for Mania 6? Where does that leave Leon White? Does he still have the same sort of career only under his original moniker of Bull Power Leon White? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Bugg Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 He flakes out and then flames out the same way in Japan that he did here in the states. Maybe we get Hogan vs Earthquake for Mania 6? Where does that leave Leon White? Does he still have the same sort of career only under his original moniker of Bull Power Leon White? He'd probably remain in Europe for a bit longer, but eventually he'd have some measure of success in Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Speaking of Vader, I've always wondered if Hellwig had gotten the gimmick if he would've gotten anywhere near as good as Leon did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Maybe they would have just switched places and Leon would have gone to WWE. Hogan loved him some monster heels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Warrior would have quit because people hit too hard like the UWF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Bugg Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Warrior would have quit because people hit too hard like the UWF Ironically that was a mark that Andre had against Warrior early in his WWF career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Warrior would have quit because people hit too hard like the UWF I agree, and I doubt he lasts 6 months. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Maybe they would have just switched places and Leon would have gone to WWE. Hogan loved him some monster heels. Does he become a heel without becoming Vader? I remember he was a face in his AWA run, and I could see him starting as that in WWF- maybe ending up a Bam Bam Bigelow upper midcard face type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 What if Flair had reached his breaking point in 98/99 and somehow gotten WCW to let him out of his contract? Would WWE have signed him despite them going for a more youthful roster at that point? Would he have gone to ECW or Japan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 They wanted to job him out to Razor so that would have happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I heard they wanted to move Flair down the card to IC level and he balked at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zev Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Flair in ECW 1998 loses to Shane Douglas at November to Remember after weeks of shooty promos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Flair in ECW 1998 loses to Shane Douglas at November to Remember after weeks of shooty promos. The same thing eventually happened in WCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I'm more thinking of Flair at the hotel bar trying to order a sea breeze while New Jack, Sandman and the rest are doing what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 If I'm booking the WWF and I end up with Ric Flair in early 1999, I bring him in after Backlash 1999 and have him replace The Rock as Vince's chosen champion. Flair vs. Austin would've written itself as a feud between the flashy millionaire and the redneck from Texas. I'm not sure what becomes of the real life heel happenings around that time though. What does Taker do? How does Triple H's rise play out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Bugg Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 If I'm booking the WWF and I end up with Ric Flair in early 1999, I bring him in after Backlash 1999 and have him replace The Rock as Vince's chosen champion. Flair vs. Austin would've written itself as a feud between the flashy millionaire and the redneck from Texas. I'm not sure what becomes of the real life heel happenings around that time though. What does Taker do? How does Triple H's rise play out? HHH in 99-2000 was hot, but he needed that hungry young lion babyface like Rock to play off of. I'm not sure a program with Flair, although it'd have good matches, would help him much. As for Taker, he probably stays the same course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 If I'm booking the WWF and I end up with Ric Flair in early 1999, I bring him in after Backlash 1999 and have him replace The Rock as Vince's chosen champion. Flair vs. Austin would've written itself as a feud between the flashy millionaire and the redneck from Texas. I'm not sure what becomes of the real life heel happenings around that time though. What does Taker do? How does Triple H's rise play out? HHH in 99-2000 was hot, but he needed that hungry young lion babyface like Rock to play off of. I'm not sure a program with Flair, although it'd have good matches, would help him much. As for Taker, he probably stays the same course. Taker's course gets derailed a bit by Flair getting the spring-summer feud with Austin. The Higher Power being Vince would almost force Flair and Taker to share the lead role in the Corporate Ministry. I suppose that Taker-Flair would've been a fun SummerSlam match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 If I'm booking the WWF and I end up with Ric Flair in early 1999, I bring him in after Backlash 1999 and have him replace The Rock as Vince's chosen champion. Flair vs. Austin would've written itself as a feud between the flashy millionaire and the redneck from Texas. I'm not sure what becomes of the real life heel happenings around that time though. What does Taker do? How does Triple H's rise play out? HHH in 99-2000 was hot, but he needed that hungry young lion babyface like Rock to play off of. I'm not sure a program with Flair, although it'd have good matches, would help him much. As for Taker, he probably stays the same course. Taker's course gets derailed a bit by Flair getting the spring-summer feud with Austin. The Higher Power being Vince would almost force Flair and Taker to share the lead role in the Corporate Ministry. I suppose that Taker-Flair would've been a fun SummerSlam match. But that fact is countered by the fact that, if Ric Flair DID come into the WWF in 1999, it's almost a foregone certainty that Flair, not Vince, would have been the Higher Power all along. Flair may not have made a LOT of sense as the Higher Power, but the shock of Ric Flair's debut would have countered some of the lack of sense, and at least it would be entirely possible to make a satisfying reason why Flair COULD BE the Higher Power. Between "Ric Flair was the person who gave The Undertaker his first WWF Title victory back in 1991" and WWE claiming "Ric Flair held Stone Cold Steve Austin back in WCW and got him fired by the company (even though it was really the exact opposite IRL)", you could make Flair as the higher power make about as much sense as anyone else being rumored at the time, and a hell of a lot more sense than "Vince McMahon had his daughter kidnapped and sacrificed to The Undertaker solely because he thought it would really piss Steve Austin off, even though he and Stephanie had barely met at the time". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I heard they wanted to move Flair down the card to IC level and he balked at that. Yeah, apparently when he signed Flair, Vince told him something to the effect of, "if I eventually end up using you at a level below the world title and you don't want that, you can leave." I don't know if that's true because it's unusually magnanimous but that's always been the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 If Flair had gone to ECW, we could finally have gotten the long-awaited Flair-New Jack feud. #mindblown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Bugg Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 What if Nailz decided that going all Latrell Spreewell on McMahon wasn't such a good idea? I could see him squashing jobbers for a while, leading up to a feud with Taker. Not that Nailz was a good worker by any stretch of the imagination, but a match with Taker would've looked like Flair-Steamboat compared to the one that Taker had with Giant Gonzalez at Wrestlemania. Maybe throw a no holds barred stip in there or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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