nate Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Can't decide if Dan Swvern's WWF theme was perfect for him or really should have been bestowed elsewhere. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, nate said: Can't decide if Dan Swvern's WWF theme was perfect for him or really should have been bestowed elsewhere. It fit him, but as Conrad Thompson once put it, "Dan Severn had the personality of a UPS truck." 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 The WWF choosing to licence that awful Uncle Cracker song for X-Pac actively harmed him career. He was still a good worker at that point, would be for years afterwards, but that song made him synonymous with extreme suckitude. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister TV Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said: Buddy, it's either that or Real American which was dated even for Hogan. Here's one for everyone: Going back to Nash, when he was WWF champ at Diesel, supposedly the WWF was going to buy the rights to use George Thorogood's "Bad to the Bone" instead of Diesel Blues. However, the WWF didn't want to pay for it. IMO that fits Bullet Bob Armstrong way more than Diesel. Plus, you had that song in the Problem Child movies. How badass was that song by 1994-1995 when it had been overused to death? Bad to the Bone was still more badass than the Roseanne theme Diesel used. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) Didn't Dennis Rodman use Voodoo Child in WCW first? Edited January 2, 2023 by BrianS81177 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, Mister TV said: Bad to the Bone was still more badass than the Roseanne theme Diesel used. Lol point taken and I'm don't think Nash liked "Diesel Blues", but it got over whenever it hit towards the back end of his WWF title run and also the very end of his first WWF stint. Plus, I don't think a dad rock anthem would feel right considering the company wasn't using anything but stuff created by Jim Johnston or repurposed, royalty free music (see the Warner/Chappell produced "Cold Sweat" I posted not too long ago that was used 2,000 times on TV in the mid to late 90s). At least it wasn't the .wav file of random sounds that was the first theme he used when he came in 1993. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, BrianS81177 said: Didn't Dennis Rodman use Voodoo Child in WCW first? The first time it was used, the entire NWO including Rodman were getting out of a limo backstage to start the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Great Justice Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, nate said: Can't decide if Dan Swvern's WWF theme was perfect for him or really should have been bestowed elsewhere. Wild, was just listening to this one today! One they should definitely bring back. Give me a monster heel Otis push with that bad boy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, For Great Justice said: Wild, was just listening to this one today! One they should definitely bring back. Give me a monster heel Otis push with that bad boy. That reminds that WCW did the inverse of what WWF use to do. WWF actually made use of stuff by giving those themes to at least more over acts. The New Hart Foundation theme -> the Heavenly Bodies Kama the Supreme Fighting Machine's theme -> Too Much The Patriot's theme -> Kurt Angle Meanwhile, fucking WCW.... The Hollywood Blondes using "Satan's Sister" -> Greg Valentine in 1996 and then a bunch of jobbers on WCW Worldwide The only exception was whatever music Loch Ness used for his 3 weeks in WCW became Rey Mysterio's theme later that year. That's goddamn hilarious. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Also, some WCW themes ending up in various porn films. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: That reminds that WCW did the inverse of what WWF use to do. WWF actually made use of stuff by giving those themes to at least more over acts. The New Hart Foundation theme -> the Heavenly Bodies Kama the Supreme Fighting Machine's theme -> Too Much The Patriot's theme -> Kurt Angle Meanwhile, fucking WCW.... The Hollywood Blondes using "Satan's Sister" -> Greg Valentine in 1996 and then a bunch of jobbers on WCW Worldwide And to circle back to where this all started: Real American from Windham/Rotunda to Hulk Hogan (on the original wrestling album heel Ventura knocks them in the segway either before or after the song). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Drew McIntyre of 2009/2010 didn't deserve such a banger like Broken Dreams. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, odessasteps said: Also, some WCW themes ending up in various porn films. Wasn't Rockhouse (the nWo theme) from an adult film? To the original question, what about Warrior's theme? Can't think of anyone else from that era who had a theme that got the crowd amped like that but you take away all the bells and whistles from Warrior and..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Just now, Nineteen said: Wasn't Rockhouse (the nWo theme) from an adult film? To the original question, what about Warrior's theme? Can't think of anyone else from that era who had a theme that got the crowd amped like that but you take away all the bells and whistles from Warrior and..... God bless Jim Fullington, but he would be another indie guy on the Ramada Inn Pensacola loop if it weren't for "Enter Sandman". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, odessasteps said: Also, some WCW themes ending up in various porn films. The Four Whoresmen had a great soundtrack. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 The NWO theme might have originated from a porn, maybe not. But it's weird when you go back to listen to stuff like Stone Free or STP with LSD and realize that Rockhouse/the NWO theme is basically just a super mashup of Jimi Hendrix rip-offs and/or samples. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said: It fit him, but as Conrad Thompson once put it, "Dan Severn had the personality of a UPS truck." Maybe so,l but even as a kid who wasn't exposed to UFC or didn't know anything about his career on the indies, he got over with me his first few months. I thought he legit cracked D'Lo collar bone and he came across as a world beater until they decided to redo Owen Hart breaking Austin's neck with Severn as Austin. Why do an angle like that anyway especially with a shooter like Severn. That really killed any momentum he had. He wasn't a promo guy or a character guy but it seems like Russo liked to book UFC talent strong and he's definitely not someone Vince would want to Push but he had a history with Shamrock that Russo wanted to play off of Edited January 2, 2023 by Ziggy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ziggy said: Maybe so,l but even as a kid who wasn't exposed to UFC or didn't know anything about his career on the indies, he got over with me his first few months. I thought he legit cracked D'Lo collar bone and he came across as a world beater until they decided to redo Owen Hart breaking Austin's neck with Severn as Austin. Why do an angle like that anyway especially with a shooter like Severn. That really killed any momentum he had. He wasn't a promo guy or a character guy but it seems like Russo liked to book UFC talent strong and he's definitely not someone Vince would want to Push. IIRC Cornette had a lot to do with trying to establish Severn as a bad ass. Problem is at least Shamrock had the experience with wrestling in a previous life where he was comfortable to put himself out there as just a crazy man. That hid his lack of charisma. That and by the time Severn came in, all the hijinks and gaga of that era of WWF made it seems like Dan Severn was on an entirely different wrestling program. How is Dan Severn suppose to get over as a badass when the segment before him is "Choppy Choppy Your Pee-Pee, Mr. Venis" and the segment after him is Goldust and Luna doing BDSM cosplay? Then, somewhere on that same show, Steve Austin is driving out another huge vehicular prop or using cement to destroy Vince's prized car. With zero personality outside of the UFC aura, Severn was doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 4 hours ago, Krone Meltzer said: Billy Gunns "The One" theme absolutely slapped. He deserved to be pushed more just based on that. Works well for sitcoms... https://youtu.be/Mtwu9HHkehk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, AxB said: The WWF choosing to licence that awful Uncle Cracker song for X-Pac actively harmed him career. He was still a good worker at that point, would be for years afterwards, but that song made him synonymous with extreme suckitude. i think i remember a shoot interview with X-Pac where he said he requested that song. They tried to talk him out of it, but he doubled down. i don't even hate that song, but it was a terrible choice for entrance music. 51 minutes ago, Nineteen said: Wasn't Rockhouse (the nWo theme) from an adult film? i don't think it was FROM an adult film, but seeing as how Rockhouse is part of a production music library, there's a solid chance that it has made appearances in porn films. Frank Shelley would be so proud, i'm sure. 36 minutes ago, Casey said: it's weird when you go back to listen to stuff like Stone Free or STP with LSD and realize that Rockhouse/the NWO theme is basically just a super mashup of Jimi Hendrix rip-offs and/or samples. very true. i think of the nWo theme as an unofficial Hendrix song, and regularly put it on playlists with a bunch of other Hendrix tunes. once you hear *that* riff in STPwLSD, all questions are erased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 31 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: IIRC Cornette had a lot to do with trying to establish Severn as a bad ass. Problem is at least Shamrock had the experience with wrestling in a previous life where he was comfortable to put himself out there as just a crazy man. That hid his lack of charisma. That and by the time Severn came in, all the hijinks and gaga of that era of WWF made it seems like Dan Severn was on an entirely different wrestling program. How is Dan Severn suppose to get over as a badass when the segment before him is "Choppy Choppy Your Pee-Pee, Mr. Venis" and the segment after him is Goldust and Luna doing BDSM cosplay? Then, somewhere on that same show, Steve Austin is driving out another huge vehicular prop or using cement to destroy Vince's prized car. With zero personality outside of the UFC aura, Severn was doomed. I liked that he didn't have an over the top personality like everyone else. I was dope seeing him take people out. Russo's obsession with worked shoot angles really ruined him though. Wasn't he going to be apart of the Ministry as the Beast? I wasn't a fan of that group but atleast they would have reintroduced him under a different character. Just let him take out folks like early on in his run 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ziggy said: I liked that he didn't have an over the top personality like everyone else. I was dope seeing him take people out. Russo's obsession with worked shoot angles really ruined him though. Wasn't he going to be apart of the Ministry as the Beast? I wasn't a fan of that group but atleast they would have reintroduced him under a different character. Just let him take out folks like early on in his run IIRC, at least in WWF's eyes, wasn't Severn one of those "I won't job cause it might fuck up my money in Japan" guys? I may be mistaken, but I vaguely remember hearing that on either Grilling JR or Something to Wrestle. Either way, it felt like once WWF starting to get towards the more edgier content and a hundred miles an hours in terms of crash TV, there was a contradiction of wrestling philosophy that made guys that would be stars or at least goods in the territory like Severn, Dr. Death, Furnas & Lafon, and a few others obsolete in that environment. I mean for example, they let Furnas & Lafon get that showcase at Survivor Series 1996, then they had a little program with Owen & Davey Boy where they do a Dusty finish with tag belts, and then months later they get buried for having no charisma. And I don't mean it's slighty inferred with the last part. They got buried on commentary for having no charisma. Even if that's the case, why would you point out the elephant in the room with two guys who really work? Just cause you're edgy and it shows attitude? How can you do that and then wonder, "shit, why didn't these guys get over?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 4 hours ago, Dolphman 3000 said: Will never forget Tenay mispronouncing it and screaming "that's Voodoo chili!" on whatever Nitro Hogan debuted the song on Then Larry deadpanned something to the effect of, "I had some Voodoo chili once, it didn't agree with me." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 4 hours ago, Dolphman 3000 said: Will never forget Tenay mispronouncing it and screaming "that's Voodoo chili!" on whatever Nitro Hogan debuted the song on Then Larry deadpanned something to the effect of, "I had some Voodoo chili once, it didn't agree with me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Muta's getting a lot of flack for using homophobic language to describe Nakamura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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