Kyuubi Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Asuka insanely good at facial acting. She obviously has a huge language barrier against her, but she knows how to theatrically perform to communicate with everyone. She does that whole "Oh, you want to go THERE?" face down pat, on top of knowing the basics of looking around for babyface reactions. She also does this really nifty thing with her fingers when she's approaching a lock-up to signal to the crowd to keep cheering. She's exceptional at that part of wrestling and I can totally see why the WWE signed her. Those sorts of things are so important to their product (especially on the big shows) and she has that down so well already. I will never understand WWE's obsession with being a great talker. It damn near ruined Reigns as he was one of those guys that did not need to talk at all. Bobby Lashley would have been great if he did not sound like Mickey Mouse on helium. So why throw wrestlers under the bus and force them to do something like that when you can just use their strengths that already has them over already? Asuka has more physical charisma than Reigns(not saying Reigns is bad, but Asuka looks intimidating for a 5"3', 130 pound woman and that is an impressive feat in of itself). Even with the language barrier, she can just use broken English and get by with her facial expressions and overall ring presence. Then again, I have never really been a fan of WWE's general booking style with the 20 minutes state of the Raw address to start the show or long segments that drag too long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Why did the obsession with long promos even start? Did the Attitude Era warp Vince's perception that much? Vince built national expansion on Hogan doing short, cocaine fueled promos while taking on big, scary dudes who had someone doing the talking for them. Considering how important Bobby Heenan was to the growth of the WWF, Vince's aversion to managers is slightly odd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 It probably started with Russo in the WWE given what we know. Why that's the thing that stuck around after he left, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Asuka insanely good at facial acting. She obviously has a huge language barrier against her, but she knows how to theatrically perform to communicate with everyone. She does that whole "Oh, you want to go THERE?" face down pat, on top of knowing the basics of looking around for babyface reactions. She also does this really nifty thing with her fingers when she's approaching a lock-up to signal to the crowd to keep cheering. She's exceptional at that part of wrestling and I can totally see why the WWE signed her. Those sorts of things are so important to their product (especially on the big shows) and she has that down so well already. I will never understand WWE's obsession with being a great talker. It damn near ruined Reigns as he was one of those guys that did not need to talk at all. Bobby Lashley would have been great if he did not sound like Mickey Mouse on helium. So why throw wrestlers under the bus and force them to do something like that when you can just use their strengths that already has them over already? Asuka has more physical charisma than Reigns(not saying Reigns is bad, but Asuka looks intimidating for a 5"3', 130 pound woman and that is an impressive feat in of itself). Even with the language barrier, she can just use broken English and get by with her facial expressions and overall ring presence. Then again, I have never really been a fan of WWE's general booking style with the 20 minutes state of the Raw address to start the show or long segments that drag too long. I've always thought that 99% of all promos should top out at about 2-3 minutes. Most of the great promos we still talk about are about that length. For instance, Dusty's Hard Times promo is like 3 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ray Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Since I watched the Storm debut on NXT that Rippa posted in the closed thread, did they say "If your a James Storm Fan you know what's coming next, the 8 sec ride".... the 8 second ride is something I have never seen Storm use, I'm not a TNA super fan but I've been watching somewhat regularly.... is it a brain fart on my part or did he legit use a new move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwegian Rudo Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Breaking Ground is up on the network. Looks great from what little I've watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trocar Slush Weasel Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Breaking Ground is up on the network. Looks great from what little I've watched. It's on Youtube as well, for the two DVDVR'ers that don't have the network: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Since I watched the Storm debut on NXT that Rippa posted in the closed thread, did they say "If your a James Storm Fan you know what's coming next, the 8 sec ride".... the 8 second ride is something I have never seen Storm use, I'm not a TNA super fan but I've been watching somewhat regularly.... is it a brain fart on my part or did he legit use a new move?Eight Second Ride is a deep cut from James Storm's repertoire. I don't think he's used it in, like, 10 years.So what they should've said was, "If you're a true James Storm Fan, not some hipster who just jumped on the Beer Money bandwagon five years ago, you know what's coming next." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 Speaking of Storm - he did a tease on Twitter about him showing up at HITC It's not gonna happen but I would lose my shit if he answers the US Open Challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H. Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Blame WCW NWO era Hogan for long promos that go nowhere, Trips just took them to the next level and would bore a crowd to death with them James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Didn't Hunter crack the joke on Austin's podcast when Austin was plugging his DVD about "90 minutes of previously unreleased footage", saying "Yeah, it's one promo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ray Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I was kind randomly thinking lately that if they wanted to, WWE could always do sort of a graduation/promotion type match gimmick similiar to promotion/relagation in soccer, or even the angle where so and so is the champion North American/Southern Champion and they got the shot at Flair when he comes to town. Problem is that if the WWE wants a new guy on Raw, they're just going to pull someone if they think they fit so you know, rather than being well booked, the "Is he big and has a beard? good he's in the wyatt family now" vs. actually having a story for people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I thought the Breaking Ground show was pretty good. I assume it will get better. The opening thing with Hunter was just so goofy with that really long delay at the end and the "I am really serious" look. William Shatner as a voice over is definitely an acquired taste because again it is so over the top. But that is Shatner gimmick I am going to assume that "Nhooph" was an NXT first name because fuck what kind of parent names their kid that. Baron Corbin can never be a babyface because he is such a natural asshole. I am sure he will turn about 3 or 4 times though. Like the whole set up of the house shows which the ring set up and announcing matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwegian Rudo Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I am going to assume that "Nhooph" was an NXT first name because fuck what kind of parent names their kid that. An Arab one? That's her real first name, but she's going by Aliyah in NXT recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 People on Planet Have Names Americans Find Weird, Film at 11. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I'm guessing Hammerva doesn't really travel outside his probably small hometown very much. Good gravy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Sorry I didn't know where she was from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 You don't need to apologize to us. You need to apologize to Nhooph. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 He can apologize to me too. I don't mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 There we go, fixed it for you. People on Planet Have Names Americans Find Weird, Film at 11 by Moon Unit Zappa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Asuka insanely good at facial acting. She obviously has a huge language barrier against her, but she knows how to theatrically perform to communicate with everyone. She does that whole "Oh, you want to go THERE?" face down pat, on top of knowing the basics of looking around for babyface reactions. She also does this really nifty thing with her fingers when she's approaching a lock-up to signal to the crowd to keep cheering. She's exceptional at that part of wrestling and I can totally see why the WWE signed her. Those sorts of things are so important to their product (especially on the big shows) and she has that down so well already. Gregg, I think you're underestimating her English by a goodly amount, she does speak with a strong Japanese accent, (duh), but she's certainly capable of getting her talking points across, which usually boil down to "fill-in-the-blank, you not show respect, now I hurt you." I've said this about Reigns, and I used to say it about Benoit, and before that I said it about Mutoh* and Dr. Death; nt everyone needs to be CM Punk or Jim Cornette on the mic, there's plenty of places in wrestling for the more or less silent ass-kicker. *Mutoh actually speaks what anyone would consider to be excellent English, just like the baseball player Icihiro, there's a certain Japanese reverse arrogance at play here that if you don't do something flawlessly, you are bringing shame on yourself by doing said thing in public. You tend to see this line of thinking a lot in the Baby Boomers / Gen X groups, people older or younger take the very reasonable approach that your second or third language is not going to be as strong as your first, but that if you can make yourself understood, you're doing just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trocar Slush Weasel Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Asuka insanely good at facial acting. She obviously has a huge language barrier against her, but she knows how to theatrically perform to communicate with everyone. She does that whole "Oh, you want to go THERE?" face down pat, on top of knowing the basics of looking around for babyface reactions. She also does this really nifty thing with her fingers when she's approaching a lock-up to signal to the crowd to keep cheering. She's exceptional at that part of wrestling and I can totally see why the WWE signed her. Those sorts of things are so important to their product (especially on the big shows) and she has that down so well already. Gregg, I think you're underestimating her English by a goodly amount, she does speak with a strong Japanese accent, Yes, her English is better than Hideo's was when he started. No idea what it's like now. But like that girl in "Better Off Dead", maybe it's better if people don't know that she speaks English. Also, apparently that Breaking Ground episode was only 30 minutes of a 60 minute episode that will premiere tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Baron Corbin can never be a babyface because he is such a natural asshole. I am sure he will turn about 3 or 4 times though. Like the whole set up of the house shows which the ring set up and announcing matches. Corbin has no babyface appeal for me at all. Everything about his personality and look screams "heel". So yeah, he can join Kane and Randy Orton as super babyfaces if he sticks around long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I've said it a million times and I'll say it again - Corbin needs a mask to hide that kind face of his. This will continue to be my talking point about him, much like Jim Ross with his love of punches. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Also needs a shirt or singlet to hide his sadface torso. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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