Reed Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Biggie and Tupac: Nick Bloomfield is pretty awful, IMO. I liked the Aileen Wurnous doc he did (mainly because he was just letting her talk), but everything else I've seen from him is really lacking. Kurt and Courtney was absolutely awful (anyone who thinks an utter trainwreck like Courtney Love is capable of pulling off a murder and successfully getting away with it needs their head examined.) This is in the same vein. Here he just picks seemingly random people from the fringes of that world, who each have about as much credibility as Lance Armstrong, and uses it to weave together some elaborate conspiracy. He points out that people have motives but doesn't seem to bother with the fact that there has to be more than a motive to prove someone's a murderer. Only true part that resonates is when Biggie's mom points that both her son and Tupac were basically killed by their own stupidity. She's the sole sympathetic person in this film. I get what you're saying about some of the people on the periphery of the story, but a lot of the stuff about the LAPD's Rampart Division was ground breaking at the time, and led to various lawsuits & investigations. I believe thru Ms Wallace's lawsuits, the mystery was pretty much resolved along the lines of what was alleged in the docu. I think the theories that the cops were involved and/or it was some conspiracy by Sage Knight to sell more records have been largely disproved. Especially when he was right there when bullets were flying. Logic fail. Chuck Phillips and Greg Kayden (while their reports don't quite match with each other) probably gave the definitive accounts. Phillips' article is here. Long story short: Tupac pissed off a Crompton gang, they decided he had to go and then decided they may as well get Biggie to pay them since he wanted it done anyway. (Kayden pins the blame on Diddy more in his account, though. I assume at the very least Diddy knew about it, even if he wasn't actively involved.) Knight got a good look at the guys in the car and knew exactly who had done it. But instead of going to the cops (snitching was a big no-no for him) settled it his own way, and in the following months Biggie and the other people involved were killed. The thing is it's actually an interesting enough story on its own. You really don't have to bring up conspiracy theories or claim something was up with the cops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Wow. Frozen is really good. Maybe the most entertaining music in a Disney film that I've seen in a long time. The Anna character also made me laugh more than just about any other Disney character. My only problem was the first time Olaf speaks and I discover it's Josh Gad doing the voice. Goddammit I hate Josh Gad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 We all do Banky, we all do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivpvideos Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Love Frozen. Took my 2 1/2 year old daughter to it as her first theater experience and she kept engaged the entire time. Tried my luck with Lego movie with her and that failed. Anyways, I thought that Josh Gad was trying to do a Jonah Hill impression throughout the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 A Jennifer Lawrence discussion on another board reminded me I'd never seen this despite meaning to so... watched The Beaver last night. Mel Gibson is Walter, a profoundly depressed CEO of his father's toy company who is barely able to speak. After his wife kicks him out, he comes across a beaver puppet in a dumpster and takes it with him for some reason. After a long night of drinking and failed suicide attempts, he awakens and begins using the beaver to communicate on his behalf. The beaver frees him to communicate like he previously could not and he is soon seemingly his old self - albeit with a puppet attached to his arm. Things don't just work out perfectly though but you'll need to see the rest of the movie for that. Anyway, other than it being a reaaaaaaallllly tough-to-accept premise (like a company would allow a dude with a puppet on his hand to have any kind of input as CEO) and having some other weirdness (Mel & Jodie Foster gettin' it on while he's wearing the puppet), there's a lot to like here. Some moving stuff and a nice subplot involving the teenage son. Anyway, this is isn't great but it was entertaining. I'll say 6/10, maybe 6.5. Definitely not up to the Tabedoza line of 7. As for Jennifer Lawrence? She's really good in a small role as the love interest of the teen son. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Liked for Tabedoza line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Yeah, the Tabedoza line is pretty good. I'd say Divergent falls right at the Tabedoza line, while Frozen bats something like a 9/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Wait. I'm confused. The actual Tabedoza line is far too distorted to be of use. Like, the Dexter finale was a 7, but while to you and me that would make FROZEN like a 33 and, say, SHAUN OF THE DEAD like a 694, to Tabe that would make FROZEN like a 7.2 and SHAUN like a 7.214333333333333333312. It's like all refracted and twisted like the orbit of light around a black hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Hunger Games: Catching Fire was fucking awesome. I was bored tonight and wanted to watch something. I saw The Hunger Games and didn't think much of it. I actually thought it was pretty boring. I don't know what changed with Catching Fire, but it was about 1000 times better. From beginning to end I loved it. Wow. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Bigger budget, much better director. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I heard Mark Kermode's review of Need for Speed. He complained about how they were constantly driving innocent people off the road/running them over. Said you could get away with it in a video game, but in a movie it's a different thing altogether. Said it came off as more morally messed up that Death Race because at leas there was, like, social commentary in that film. I'm a bit like that too, which is probably why I never liked these car racing movies. OK, it's great Vin Diesel and Rock pulled off their heist and defeated the bad guys and all, but what about the fact they basically left a city in ruins? There should really be a movie dedicated to the poor people who have to do the clean up job after these race car drivers storm through their town. They're the real heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintthecrippler Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Back from a screening of Cheap Thrills at Cinefamily. Well-done and very dark psychological thriller. Performances are great, and David Koechner may have started a second career path as creepy guy in dark thrillers and horror movies. Truth be told, a very uncomfortable flick at times that goes to some very uncomfortable places, but if that's your thing this is well worth checking out. Here's the red band trailer for your perusal: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Wait. I'm confused. The actual Tabedoza line is far too distorted to be of use. Like, the Dexter finale was a 7, but while to you and me that would make FROZEN like a 33 and, say, SHAUN OF THE DEAD like a 694, to Tabe that would make FROZEN like a 7.2 and SHAUN like a 7.214333333333333333312. It's like all refracted and twisted like the orbit of light around a black hole. I don't remember giving a rating to the finale of Dexter specifically. I usually do ratings by seasons or entire series.Haven't seen Frozen yet. I saw Her that day instead. Pretty confident I made the right choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mco543 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I'm almost surely in the distinct minority but after seeing it tonight I'd easily rate Hangover 3 as the best in the trilogy. I thought 3 was hilarious throughout and less ridiculous than 2. I really disliked the first Hangover and didn't find it at all funny, one of the most overrated movies of the decade after Bridesmaids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Wait. I'm confused. The actual Tabedoza line is far too distorted to be of use. Like, the Dexter finale was a 7, but while to you and me that would make FROZEN like a 33 and, say, SHAUN OF THE DEAD like a 694, to Tabe that would make FROZEN like a 7.2 and SHAUN like a 7.214333333333333333312. It's like all refracted and twisted like the orbit of light around a black hole. I don't remember giving a rating to the finale of Dexter specifically. I usually do ratings by seasons or entire series.Haven't seen Frozen yet. I saw Her that day instead. Pretty confident I made the right choice. The system bears your name, Tabe. But it's out of your control now. Based on this post HER registers as a 7.0622222222222222222222222222222. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 A Jennifer Lawrence discussion on another board reminded me I'd never seen this despite meaning to so... watched The Beaver last night. Mel Gibson is Walter, a profoundly depressed CEO of his father's toy company who is barely able to speak. After his wife kicks him out, he comes across a beaver puppet in a dumpster and takes it with him for some reason. After a long night of drinking and failed suicide attempts, he awakens and begins using the beaver to communicate on his behalf. The beaver frees him to communicate like he previously could not and he is soon seemingly his old self - albeit with a puppet attached to his arm. Things don't just work out perfectly though but you'll need to see the rest of the movie for that. Anyway, other than it being a reaaaaaaallllly tough-to-accept premise (like a company would allow a dude with a puppet on his hand to have any kind of input as CEO) and having some other weirdness (Mel & Jodie Foster gettin' it on while he's wearing the puppet), there's a lot to like here. Some moving stuff and a nice subplot involving the teenage son. Anyway, this is isn't great but it was entertaining. I'll say 6/10, maybe 6.5. Definitely not up to the Tabedoza line of 7. As for Jennifer Lawrence? She's really good in a small role as the love interest of the teen son. I haven't seen it in a while, but I remember liking the movie. I think it might have gotten a better deal and maybe more attention at least for Jodie Foster as a director if it were anyone but Mel Gibson in the lead. But I don't think there was anyone but Mel Gibson who could pull off being batshit insane/manic depressive and talking with a puppet. Remove The Beaver and it could have probably been a documentary for his life just before they shot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 The system bears your name, Tabe. But it's out of your control now. Based on this post HER registers as a 7.0622222222222222222222222222222. After. 15 decimal places, I really just stop caring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antacular Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I'm almost surely in the distinct minority but after seeing it tonight I'd easily rate Hangover 3 as the best in the trilogy. I thought 3 was hilarious throughout and less ridiculous than 2. I really disliked the first Hangover and didn't find it at all funny, one of the most overrated movies of the decade after Bridesmaids. 3 wasn't even a comedy, it was practically a dark caper. I don't know how to address the rest because very few movies have made me laugh harder than the first one on opening night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Hunger Games: Catching Fire was fucking awesome. I was bored tonight and wanted to watch something. I saw The Hunger Games and didn't think much of it. I actually thought it was pretty boring. I don't know what changed with Catching Fire, but it was about 1000 times better. From beginning to end I loved it. Wow. Wow. Getting divorced turns you into a teenage girl, gotcha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.K.o.S. Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Back from a screening of Cheap Thrills at Cinefamily. Well-done and very dark psychological thriller. Performances are great, and David Koechner may have started a second career path as creepy guy in dark thrillers and horror movies. Truth be told, a very uncomfortable flick at times that goes to some very uncomfortable places, but if that's your thing this is well worth checking out. I enjoyed how they were apparently trying to have the rich guy put on the most abrasive music possible at his place, and managed to put together a brostep song with a drop that lasted for like ten minutes straight. Also neat to see the leads of The Innkeepers reunited under very different circumstances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I'm almost surely in the distinct minority but after seeing it tonight I'd easily rate Hangover 3 as the best in the trilogy. I thought 3 was hilarious throughout and less ridiculous than 2. I really disliked the first Hangover and didn't find it at all funny, one of the most overrated movies of the decade after Bridesmaids. 3 wasn't even a comedy, it was practically a dark caper. I don't know how to address the rest because very few movies have made me laugh harder than the first one on opening night. Have to disagree, if was no more dark than the other two, funnier than number 2. At least it tried not to be a total remake of the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I actually totally loved The Wolverine (!). Thought the action sequences were well-done and actually vulnerable Wolvie was fun. Was surprised at the depth of the drama and there was even a tinge of sexiness to the love story. It's not like the greatest thing I've ever seen, but it was a totally entertaining and slightly-better-than-average comic book movie. And that's after I read an IMDB post that compared one of the actresses appearance to that of Stewie Griffin that totally took me out of the moment every time she was onscreen! For comparison's sake I just watched it again on dvd last night, and I'd call her hot myself. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 James Rebhorn apparently died of skin cancer. He was awesome in ID4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mco543 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 James Rebhorn was awesome in damn near everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Skin cancer?! Wow... I always liked him in just about all of his roles. My friends and I always repeat his "plausible deniability" line from ID4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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