Eivion Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, sabremike said: Dragon Lee got the pin on FTR to win the AAA tag titles and then announced he was headed to WWE right after the match. They knew he was going to WWE and had him get the pin on an AEW headlining act that AEW clearly wouldn't have allowed had they known about that. Was there any actual controversy about that? I don't recall any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 8 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: would it be in bad taste for Moxley to think that Kemonito is a hallucination caused by the cumulative effects of alcoholism? Nah, he'd laugh. It would only work if he hadn't dried out though. Blue monkeys instead of pink elephants, haha. From the looks of things there's no need for minis because compared to Claudio the regular CMLL guys are small enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 yeah, CMLL is gonna need to bring out Volcano to be the bodyguard for the CMLL guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E. Dynamite Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Are they gonna EVER do a Volcano/Kraneo apuestas? Is it still on the table?? Did it already happen??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I’d be all for seeing Claudio interacting with Zacarias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E. Dynamite Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 MICRO GEMELO DIABLO I IS THE MAIN MINI MOTHERFUCKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Oh yeah, Microman departed CMLL since the time I was last able to watch them regularly (aka, since COVID) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Yeah he's MLW all the way now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Apparently the Big Bussiness pre-sale tickets sold out in 12 minutes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Good to hear that AEW Big Business won’t be followed by AEW Recession 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 2 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: Good to hear that AEW Big Business won’t be followed by AEW Recession I wonder if they'd subtitle it "Once in a lifetime!" then run the same card three times in 15 years 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 3 hours ago, AxB said: Apparently the Big Bussiness pre-sale tickets sold out in 12 minutes. They've sold close to 5000 tickets already. There's still people claiming that Mercedes isn't a draw. I can tell you one thing... there's no other women's wrestler moving tickets like that on their name alone. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietShooter Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 On 2/7/2024 at 10:35 PM, Kevin Wilson said: So I feel like I have a vague understanding of Lucha politics, how is AEW able to work with CMLL and AAA at the same time? I thought the deal with Pentagon etc not being able to be on Forbidden Door is because New Japan worked with CMLL, no AAA wrestlers could appear. While I am sure we won't see AAA and CMLL wrestlers interact on AEW, it just surprises me to even see them both in the same outside promotion at the same time. Short version is, supposedly the deal between AEW and CMLL is that the CMLL talent can't be on the same show as AAA talent. Now, what starts to make the answer longer and rambling is who and what qualifies as AAA talent. AAA really only runs 25-30 shows a year, their TV tapings. So, they actually have very few wrestlers under contract. Of all the "AAA wrestlers" that appear on AEW, only Hijo del Vikingo is under contract to AAA. Pentagon, Fenix, and Bandido are all under AEW contract. Kommander is straight up freelance, as is pretty much any other lucahdor that had shown up to AEW previously. The talent AAA has under contract are mostly midcard and prelim guys that benefit from AAA booking them out to affiliated and independent shows. Most of their main event and headliners are freelance workers that they only bring in for big shows (LA Park, Wagner, Blue Demon Jr, Alberto, etc), because they can make more money handling their own schedule. Only a few top guys like Vikingo and Psycho Clown are under contract. Supposedly CMLL does put talent under contract, but with how easily talent has shown it is to walk out on CMLL in the past, I think they just have booking agreements. CMLL runs so many shows (and at their own venues) that they can fill up a wrestler's schedule. Between CMLL's own shows and outside shows they book their talent out to, that is a lot of work to lose out on by working a show with AAA talent - so the wrestlers just don't do it. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Wow. Reading that, it's weird that we even think of the two promotions as currently opposing entities. This is practically "don't forget to not wear your Walmart badge when you're moonlighting at Target". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKERyan Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) 14 hours ago, SovietShooter said: Short version is, supposedly the deal between AEW and CMLL is that the CMLL talent can't be on the same show as AAA talent. Now, what starts to make the answer longer and rambling is who and what qualifies as AAA talent. AAA really only runs 25-30 shows a year, their TV tapings. So, they actually have very few wrestlers under contract. Of all the "AAA wrestlers" that appear on AEW, only Hijo del Vikingo is under contract to AAA. Pentagon, Fenix, and Bandido are all under AEW contract. Kommander is straight up freelance, as is pretty much any other lucahdor that had shown up to AEW previously. Fairly certain Kommander is under AEW contact as well. Edited February 10 by MKERyan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietShooter Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 25 minutes ago, MKERyan said: Fairly certain Kommander is under AEW contact as well. He very well may be, but I don't know if he ever got the infamous ”Is All Elite” graphic. However, he never was under contract to AAA Along those same lines... Black Taurus recently popped up for a couple matches in AEW. He had been regularly working for AAA and Impact, but was not under contract. Apparently he has either signed with or will be regularly appearing for AEW/ROH going forward and no longer taking AAA bookings, so AAA went after him for using the "Black Taurus" name. Some future AAA lineups are out advertising a "Black Taurus", so either he is being false advertised, or AAA is going to put someone else under the mask. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Can't wait for the appearance of Dark Bullman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 16 minutes ago, SovietShooter said: He very well may be, but I don't know if he ever got the infamous ”Is All Elite” graphic. However, he never was under contract to AAA Komander got the graphic after the Jay White match in Pittsburgh last year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 28 minutes ago, Infinit said: Komander got the graphic after the Jay White match in Pittsburgh last year. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 53 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: Can't wait for the appearance of Dark Bullman Toro Negro would have killer Collision-only feud with Rush. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I keep forgetting to post this, but we NEED Dick Togo vs. American Dragon. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Only if no other member of House of Torture is anywhere in the same building or city don’t wanna take any chances 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKERyan Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, SovietShooter said: Along those same lines... Black Taurus recently popped up for a couple matches in AEW. He had been regularly working for AAA and Impact, but was not under contract. Apparently he has either signed with or will be regularly appearing for AEW/ROH going forward and no longer taking AAA bookings, so AAA went after him for using the "Black Taurus" name. Some future AAA lineups are out advertising a "Black Taurus", so either he is being false advertised, or AAA is going to put someone else under the mask. His socials say “Taurus” and “Taurus Rivera”, maybe one of those will be his name in AEW? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) Obviously everyone knows from the Punk-era that I am vociferously anti-formal roster/brand/etc. split of any kind, but in an informal way, I think it might be kind of a cool experiment to have Dynamite/Rampage tapings be more "AEW+Puro"-focused, and ROH/Collision tapings to be more "AEW+Lucha"-focused. Recent shows are selling better, thank goodness (and especially Big Business, holy shit - @Niners Fan in CTon the money dude, no pun) but I think this idea might help draw even more people because AEW could look at NJPW or AAA and CMLL numbers in certain areas (be it NJPWorld, Honor Club when guys are on that, NJPW on AXS, ratings for the lucha stuff on local affiliates, how recent indy appearances by dudes on excursion drew) as sort of a back door metric, and book the shows/route to certain areas accordingly Edit: To clarify this thought was kinda kicked off by @Go2Sleeps comment about the Collision-only RUSH feud (which I support as well) Edited February 10 by Zakk_Sabbath 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Since it came up in the TV thread: what do y'all think Darby's dumbest bump is? I vote for when he let Ethan Page throw him down a flight of concrete steps and ended up being out for a couple of months. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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