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Craig H

Craig H

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1 hour ago, Jiji said:

Dude basically called out Khan for not upholding his promises and for the company leaking his mental health status to Fightful 'n' co. I don't see him coming back. 

He didn't call Khan out. Also, when he talks about the last two years, you gotta look at that as referring to WWE and AEW. As for AEW, the fuck are they supposed to do when it comes to upholding promises when the guy's back is beyond fucked? And despite that, Black and the rest of the House of Black were always in a featured position.

I think the biggest thing from that is the mountain of shit he's had to deal with over the last couple years. The thing about he and his wife dealing with the loss of life really stands out and makes me wonder if she had a miscarriage. And on top of that, a friend killing themselves, not to mention having depression and a fucked back are a terrible combination, yeah, I think the guy has earned a lot of time off to do whatever makes him happy.

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Craig H

Craig H

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And if anything, the stuff about private conversations being leaked speaks more to the change in the roster making AEW became this place where nothing is private. Too many people want to keep their relationships open with "journalists" to be able to get their shit out there. I don't think it's a coincidence with how the rumor mill went into overdrive when AEW went from a company where it was all friends to a company that had a lot of folks come over that weren't in those circles and may be used to leaking shit here and there.

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Elsalvajeloco

Elsalvajeloco

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24 minutes ago, odessasteps said:

Telephone, telegraph, tell a wrestler.

All you basically have to do is not address it, and then it's reckless and baseless internet speculation with no one being wise to the truth. There you go. You win.

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stuntmanc

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What a stark contrast to around when Danielson came in.  I might be misremembering, but wasn't it the fact that the locker room was so tight lipped about Brodie being one of the reasons Danielson decided to come to AEW?

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The Natural

The Natural

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12 minutes ago, StuntmanCrowley said:

What a stark contrast to around when Danielson came in.  I might be misremembering, but wasn't it the fact that the locker room was so tight lipped about Brodie being one of the reasons Danielson decided to come to AEW?

You beat me to it, yes (no pun intended).

zendragon

zendragon

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I've really grown fond of Malaki Black because he reminds me of me if I had actually grown up to be a pro wrestler. I really wish him well. He seems highly intelligent based on interviews so I believe he can finds something else if that what it comes to. Acting, Directing, his clothing line  

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HarryArchieGus

HarryArchieGus

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Interested to hear more on this Black situation. On the surface, he was well protected and given great opportunity, and significant TV time (when not injured) to get over. 6 months or so back he seemed destined for Main Events. 6 months later I'm fast forwarding thru his tedious and pretentious promos (they will not be missed). Further, his angles building to Julia joining the team and the Sting/Darby/Miro trios match were amongst the most awkward and awful this year in the promotion. For awhile now both Buddy and Brody's stars have shined brighter than their leader's tired sinister act. Stoked for this team getting a big match at Grand Slam. It feels like the beginning of something far greater for these two than what they would've been doing with Malakai still in the fold. Brody's come along way since his signing, and Buddy feels like he's one opportunity away from being a huge breakout star. As for Black, there are better ways to address said situation than an attention seeking statement in part shitting on a company that paid him handsomely and gave him great opportunity to be a 'TV star'. On the surface, feels like the profession promises not being upheld are at the very least a shared responsibility. All that said, certainly there are more details than those gleaned from assessment of his performance, his injury report, and a statement shrugging much of any responsibility for his current life situation. 

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just drew

just drew

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8 hours ago, Craig H said:

He didn't call Khan out. Also, when he talks about the last two years, you gotta look at that as referring to WWE and AEW. As for AEW, the fuck are they supposed to do when it comes to upholding promises when the guy's back is beyond fucked? And despite that, Black and the rest of the House of Black were always in a featured position.

I think the biggest thing from that is the mountain of shit he's had to deal with over the last couple years. The thing about he and his wife dealing with the loss of life really stands out and makes me wonder if she had a miscarriage. And on top of that, a friend killing themselves, not to mention having depression and a fucked back are a terrible combination, yeah, I think the guy has earned a lot of time off to do whatever makes him happy.

That's how I read it, too. He's being referenced on AEW television. His faction is still a thing. I think AEW certainly believes he'll be wrestling in their ring when and if he gets back. I probably want that more than is healthy, but I truly believe the only place he'll have the creative leeway to flesh out his character and lore is with Tony Khan. He's someone you put the World Title on when he's healthy.

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Technico Support

Technico Support

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There's a really fine line between having a cool, dark stable and just being kinda lame and not believable.  You can be kind of creepy and hint at the satanic, supernatural, pagan, or whatever your fancy.  But when you go just a slight bit too far, it's just mall goth edgelord bullshit.  Somebody should have reigned the House of Black in a tiny bit.  Spooky gang of creeps?  Cool.  Spooky gang of creeps who are cursing people and turning them evil via black mist?  No thanks.

I think things started to go downhill when Matthews joined, too.  Two tatted up weirdos with cool names?  Yes.  But then they're joined by a guy with no tattoos who spends more time doing curls than reading Lovecraft.  And his name is BUDDY.  Nothing is threatening about that.  Worse fit than Roma joining the horsemen.

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(BP)

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Malakai was Moses, he wasn’t supposed to see the promised land. 

Julia Hart is Joshua; she’s going to lead the HoB until they conquer AEW and she’ll break down the Walls of Jericho by tapping out Lionheart with her slick submission hold.

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Eivion

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8 hours ago, StuntmanCrowley said:

What a stark contrast to around when Danielson came in.  I might be misremembering, but wasn't it the fact that the locker room was so tight lipped about Brodie being one of the reasons Danielson decided to come to AEW?

It was about being able to bleed for Danielson. Punk was the one who claimed it was about how they handled Brodie's sickness and passing.

Craig H

Craig H

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I'm enjoying watching Sapp and others trip over themselves to report shit from MJF's interview with Ariel as if it was all a shoot.

EDIT: I do enjoy his dedication to his character and being a heel by both saying WWE has been better lately, but it also spits in the face of Vince's legacy. 

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TheVileOne

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11 hours ago, StuntmanCrowley said:

What a stark contrast to around when Danielson came in.  I might be misremembering, but wasn't it the fact that the locker room was so tight lipped about Brodie being one of the reasons Danielson decided to come to AEW?

It was CM Punk I recall who talked about that.

But it's worth noting that CM Punk returning to wrestling and Bryan Danielson signing with AEW were both leaked last year, so *shrugs*

I don't know how you prevent leaks in a business like this where everyone is gunning for everyone's spot, wants to get on TV, and it's all such an ego-driven, attention-getting business. 

Even the entertainment business and politics can't prevent leaks. I don't see how wrestling can do it.

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odessasteps

odessasteps

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Maybe if they were actual employees, you could have them sign NDAs that specifically call outwrestking media.

But if you have TK talking to Uncle Dave, it seems hypocritical.

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TheVileOne

TheVileOne

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1 hour ago, odessasteps said:

Maybe if they were actual employees, you could have them sign NDAs that specifically call outwrestking media.

But if you have TK talking to Uncle Dave, it seems hypocritical.

NDAs don't prevent leaks. Especially if people are anonymously leaking info.

Elsalvajeloco

Elsalvajeloco

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3 hours ago, odessasteps said:

Maybe if they were actual employees, you could have them sign NDAs that specifically call outwrestking media.

But if you have TK talking to Uncle Dave, it seems hypocritical.

 

2 hours ago, TheVileOne said:

NDAs don't prevent leaks. Especially if people are anonymously leaking info.

People have tried to control what comes out of their locker rooms, and it usually doesn't work. I mean both WCW and WWF tried to have some sort of inroads with Meltzer. Dave kept chugging online and stuff still got out there (both bad info and stuff that was right), which is why ole Bruce and Bischoff hate his guts. 

Hell, Dana White tried to do that same thing with Sherdog.com. Then The Ultimate Fighter spoilers got leaked by Josh Gross back when the show was really popular. It got real nasty on the UFC end. About ten years later, something similar happened with Ariel Helwani. 

It's a battle you're not going to win.

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