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All Out this weekend which reminds me of the predecessor and how it was one of the best wrestling shows ever. Bryan Danielson and Adam Cole debuted. Danielson went on to have an all time run. CM Punk had his first match in seven years defeating Darby Allin. The Lucha Brothers dethroned the AEW World Tag Team Champions, The Young Bucks inside a steel cage and Miro retained the AEW TNT Championship vs. Eddie Kingston in a great opener. Felt then and still do Eddie Kingston should have ended the reign there or at AEW Grand Slam.

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CM Punk Strikes Again!

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Several In AEW Told Bobby Fish's AEW Deal Not Being Renewed
Bobby Fish's time with AEW may be coming to an end.

Fish has been missing from AEW programming in recent weeks, and the reason for that is now clear. We're told that Fish's contract is coming up, and he will likely be finishing with the company when it does, with the deal not being renewed. Fish last appeared on the August 3 episode of AEW Dynamite, when the Undisputed Elite returned. Fish, Adam Cole, and Kyle O'Reilly betrayed the Young Bucks to seemingly launch some sort of program, but they haven't been seen since.

Fish made his AEW debut in 2021 on the October 6 episode of AEW Dynamite, where he unsuccessfully challenged Sammy Guevara for the TNT Championship. He subsequently signed a deal with the company and faced top names like Bryan Danielson and CM Punk. After a brief singles run, he aligned with Cole and the Young Bucks before O'Reilly arrived on the Holiday Bash episode of Dynamite in December. Since then, he has competed in several matches alongside O'Reilly, in addition to a few singles matches. He has been sparingly in recent months, perhaps in part due to injuries to both Cole and O'Reilly. He last wrestled for AEW at the July taping of AEW Dark: Elevation. Fish has been taking bookings on the independent scene; he defeated Yuya Uemura at DEFY Doomsayers on August 20.

Prior to his arrival in AEW, Fish was featured as a member of the Undisputed Era in WWE NXT for several years before he was released in a cost-cutting move on August 6, 2021. There, he won the NXT Tag Team Championship twice. Before that, he wrestled for ROH and NJPW; he is a three-time ROH World Tag Team Champion and a two-time IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Champion, among other accolades.

We've reached out to AEW and Bobby Fish for comment. 

One more guy on bad terms with Punk leaves the company and we can use the death knocking on the door meme.

(This is fine though. Fish filled his role well but O'Reilly should be a singles guy or teaming with Cole.)

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3 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said:

Not that I doubt the sincerity of his feelings, but this certainly casts another light on Fish’s recent public expressions of enthusiasm regarding Hunter. 

The grass is always greener on the other side.

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Like... I verbally said several times when he showed up that Fish shouldn't have been signed by AEW, his work was fine but they didn't need him then. This wasn't to say that he should never come to AEW, but that him showing up before any of the other Undisputed Era folks made little sense as his value would be tied almost entirely to one single likely to be huge angle.

...They then did not re-sign him right before said angle was to truly kick off and if it wasn't his call I am utterly lost.

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Not for nothing, but I questioned signing Fish way back when because of his age and because he was just a singles worker. I didn't see much point to him being on the roster when KOR and Cole were the more attractive hires, but both of those guys also looked way locked down. Having KOR come over gave us ReDRagon again and that would have been great if they all didn't get hurt at the same time.

Other than a coach or a producer, I'm not sure what there will be for Fish to do in WWE as a singles wrestler.

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21 minutes ago, Craig H said:

Other than a coach or a producer, I'm not sure what there will be for Fish to do in WWE as a singles wrestler.

If Bobby Roode's still kicking around that company, it's clear there's space for a grizzled vet/vet tag team or a vet/youngling tag team.

Singles, not as much use. Coaching or tags, we'll see.

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On 8/29/2022 at 4:40 PM, DEAN said:

Well, the best match in AEW history, Bryan Danielson vs Kenny Omega was just Danielson showing up to wrestling Kenny Omega.

Right on both counts. Yay to someone agreeing with me that Bryan Danielson vs. Kenny Omega is the best match in AEW history. Cheers, DEAN.

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28 minutes ago, Craig H said:

Other than a coach or a producer, I'm not sure what there will be for Fish to do in WWE as a singles wrestler.

I mean if I were WWE I'd sign him just to undercut the big UE/Elite angle they've been hinting at for the better part of a year now, and if Fish felt loyalty to Hunter for the shot he was given in NXT then I can at least follow the logic on his end. If this was AEW's call and there isn't some story about how he like actually punched out Sammy then I have no answer.

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19 hours ago, Raziel said:

I dunno, there's something ironic about Tony buying RoH while simultaneously turning his company into a massively upscaled version of Early RoH.

When I was in early ROH, I wanted it to grow into what AEW is today: a large company on national TV featuring great wrestling.

The crazy part is that ROH didn't pull the trigger, set up a different company to do it instead, and then that company bought ROH, and now we're waiting for that company to bring back ROH. 

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I think people are really overinflating the impact of the ROH stuff. It's given them a couple of prop belts to use on shows to add some extra stakes at times. It helped cement Yuta being over. It gave FTR something on top of the AAA and NJPW belts as they're kept out of the top top of the scene due to whatever else Tony wants to do there. They spent something like 2-3 weeks building up a PPV after Forbidden door, with a lot of that on Dark (Pure title stuff) or Elevation (Martinez/Deeb). Almost no talent has come in from ROH specifically (Gresham had what, two matches on Rampage? Blake Christian gets some Dark matches. Cheeseburger was on Elevation once?). Martinez had a bunch of defenses on Elevation.

The footprint has been absolutely tiny. Minuscule. It's not Jim Crockett overextending himself with dead territories that were geographically far away from his core and adding an extra ten wrestlers and salaries and a bunch of TV he had to cover. It's been one PPV with two weeks build and a way for him to sprinkle some extra stakes on things he'd probably want to do anyway. The biggest issue is that the PPV (which everyone seemed to really like!) came right after Forbidden Door so even though most of the build was limited to Rampage/Dark/Elevation, it was a month, month and a half with less focus. BUT! That was right at the moment where they had the worst injuries so it was a good way to paper over things with some extra/outside talent for a little bit. It actually helped to put a bandaid on things.

Sorry, but what is anyone even talking about here?

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7 hours ago, Jiji said:

CM Punk Strikes Again!

One more guy on bad terms with Punk leaves the company and we can use the death knocking on the door meme.

(This is fine though. Fish filled his role well but O'Reilly should be a singles guy or teaming with Cole.)

Fish swung me around by the end of his run but if it's time for the Fish to go, it was a good short run and that's cool with me

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My cousin Steve won tickets from ESPN 1000 for Rampage tomorrow... he lives 20 minutes away so he's stoked. Everyone be sure to look for someone second row ringside who looks like me if I was 6'2, bald and actually exercised. ?

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1 hour ago, Matt D said:

I think people are really overinflating the impact of the ROH stuff. It's given them a couple of prop belts to use on shows to add some extra stakes at times. It helped cement Yuta being over. It gave FTR something on top of the AAA and NJPW belts as they're kept out of the top top of the scene due to whatever else Tony wants to do there. They spent something like 2-3 weeks building up a PPV after Forbidden door, with a lot of that on Dark (Pure title stuff) or Elevation (Martinez/Deeb). Almost no talent has come in from ROH specifically (Gresham had what, two matches on Rampage? Blake Christian gets some Dark matches. Cheeseburger was on Elevation once?). Martinez had a bunch of defenses on Elevation.

The footprint has been absolutely tiny. Minuscule. It's not Jim Crockett overextending himself with dead territories that were geographically far away from his core and adding an extra ten wrestlers and salaries and a bunch of TV he had to cover. It's been one PPV with two weeks build and a way for him to sprinkle some extra stakes on things he'd probably want to do anyway. The biggest issue is that the PPV (which everyone seemed to really like!) came right after Forbidden Door so even though most of the build was limited to Rampage/Dark/Elevation, it was a month, month and a half with less focus. BUT! That was right at the moment where they had the worst injuries so it was a good way to paper over things with some extra/outside talent for a little bit. It actually helped to put a bandaid on things.

Sorry, but what is anyone even talking about here?

No, bro. It's killing AEW, bro. Why don't you understand? TK is stretched too thin. It's fact. If I keep saying it, it's fact, right bro? ROH is killing AEW, I'm telling you. Haven't you been listening? You give good examples, but I feel it in my heart, so that's more valid. ROH IS KILLING AEW, BRO! STRETCHED! TOO! THIN!!!

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11 minutes ago, Log said:

No, BRUV. It's killing AEW, BRUV. Why don't you understand? TK is stretched too thin. It's fact. If I keep saying it, it's fact, right BRUV? ROH is killing AEW, I'm telling you. Haven't you been listening? You give good examples, but I feel it in my heart, so that's more valid. ROH IS KILLING AEW, BRUV! STRETCHED! TOO! THIN!!!

Fixed.

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7 hours ago, Craig H said:

Other than a coach or a producer, I'm not sure what there will be for Fish to do in WWE as a singles wrestler.

I can absolutely see him in the Player/Coach role, maybe a tag team with one of the NXT prospects.

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Ospreay tweeted that he's done in AEW for the foreseeable future. So that means cross him off the list of candidates for the joker in the Casino Ladder Match, and his match with Omega is probably happening in New Japan rather than AEW.

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6 minutes ago, For Great Justice said:

Suggestion: for Grand Slam they need to have the Lucha Bros enter with Edwin Diaz and Timmy Trumpet to “Narco”. It’s Queens! You gotta do it. That shit slaps.

Mets are in Milwaukee that night. Also, the Luchas don't deserve an entrance that cool, it should be Andrade and Rush. And then Rush kicks the shit out of Mr Met after the match and unmasks him.

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When the price of AEW+ went up earlier in the year, Fite said that as a bonus they were giving people 2 bonus credits a month so they'd be able to get a free PPV out of it if they stayed subscribed; then this month they just cancelled it with no notice before anybody had got a chance to accrue the 20 credits required to fund an AEW PPV, and said it was only ever a temporary thing to ease people into the price increase

I am now proudly sitting on 18 worthless space dollars which will gradually waste away every month because they're only valid for a year ??
 

 

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3 minutes ago, Firebreaker Chip said:

When the price of AEW+ went up earlier in the year, Fite said that as a bonus they were giving people 2 bonus credits a month so they'd be able to get a free PPV out of it if they stayed subscribed; then this month they just cancelled it with no notice before anybody had got a chance to accrue the 20 credits required to fund an AEW PPV, and said it was only ever a temporary thing to ease people into the price increase

I am now proudly sitting on 18 worthless space dollars which will gradually waste away every month because they're only valid for a year ??
 

 

Plenty of other promotions to check out on Fite with AEW talent appearing. Though that is really shitty from Fite

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