The Natural Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Never seen this before. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bey Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Scott Hall's passing makes BBC News. I associate with Razor Ramon more as that was my introduction to him as a kid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eikerir Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) Another Scott Hall memory just got unlocked in my brain. Back in the 90s cable wasn’t really widespread back in Venezuela but one local channel would show “Cable shows” the whole afternoon and evening of every Saturday from like 1990 to 1995, and they actually showed full PPVs for free. This way I got to watch most PPVs and Superstars from that era. I remember watching religiously every Saturday for my wrestling fix until one afternoon in 1994 the WM X Ladder Match popped up on my TV and my 7 year old mind was blown away. They would sometimes repeat shows or matches so after that day I learned how to use our VCR in hopes of catching the replay of this magical match on tape to show my friends because I didn’t know how to put into words what I had witnessed. Around 1997 I used Amazon for the first time and my first ever Amazon purchase was WM X on VHS. Along with 12 and 13 if you’re wondering. Edited March 15, 2022 by eikerir 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 35 minutes ago, The Natural said: Scott Hall's passing makes BBC News. I associate with Razor Ramon more as that was my introduction to him as a kid. Made the Times as well. That tends to be my bellwether of true fame... glad he passed that test. Anyone else picture him going through the pearly gates doing the "ME ME ME ME ME YEAH!" taunt? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 The move that started a pro-wrestling boom 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawful Metal Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 One thing that needs mentioning was that Hall was a master of was the art of being dazed and standing / walking into the right position to be hit with a move. Watch the Bash at the Beach six man again on Savage's hot tag. Hall has to stagger all the way across the ring to get hit with Savage's double axe handle, then get up and get back into position for like 5 more. it's a master class, all looping arms, goofy steps and glazed eyes. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, Lawful Metal said: One thing that needs mentioning was that Hall was a master of was the art of being dazed and standing / walking into the right position to be hit with a move. Watch the Bash at the Beach six man again on Savage's hot tag. Hall has to stagger all the way across the ring to get hit with Savage's double axe handle, then get up and get back into position for like 5 more. it's a master class, all looping arms, goofy steps and glazed eyes. This particular art is lost on today's wrestlers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 See, this is so much better than their boilerplate "WWE is saddened" rowrbazzle. "WWE family" is warmer and humanizes them far more easily. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Crazy to see him grow over the years, from tag champs with Curt Hennig in the AWA, to the Diamond Studd, to Razor, to the Outsider. He was a damn good wrestler and entertainer who will live forever through his work that we will enjoy watching and workers will emulate. RIP ❤ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 58 minutes ago, "Stone Cold" Steve Austin said: The move that started a pro-wrestling boom I haven't looked it up but it wouldn't surprise me if Schiavone didn't know. He either really didn't or that was a picture-perfect way of acting like he did. I actually hold this in much higher regard than Hogan's "Stick it, brother" promo due to how real this all felt. And no that has nothing to do with it being Hogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sublime Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 This is a hard one but not in the way Brodie and Hana where it crushed my fandom a bit, this one is hard because it makes me remember the start of my fandom and . I didn't watch WCW regularly when I started watching wrestling, all my friends were WWF fans so that's what I gravitated to, but I probably saw the Diamond Studd once or twice but never remembered him but when the first Razor Ramon vignette aired I thought he was the coolest toughest guy and became one of my favorites before I ever watched him in the ring and when he did get in the ring and hit the Razors Edge the first time it solidified him as awesome. But more than being someone I thought was great that made him a big part of my being a fan is that my dad liked him too. My dad wasn't a big fan of wrestling when I started watching but would put up with it but he liked Razor Ramon and would start saying Chico and it was something that helped that bond and Hall was always a guy my dad remembered. When the nWo was in WWE in 2002 my dad called me cause he saw them on TV and was talking about how he saw that "Razor Ramon was back chico". My dad passed just over 3 years ago now and I hope he's happy to see Razor Ramon again. Hall was an all time great truthfully and I love that he wasn't bitter about never being the top guy or anything, like I remember him on Art of Wrestling talking about how great it was that he was in the Tito Santana position in WWF making money being the #2 face. He was a true pro, the way I think of guys like Eddie Guerrero and Terry Funk who would do what was best for the show without being a prima donna about things which is so strange with him being friends with Shawn, HHH and Nash. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, NikoBaltimore said: I haven't looked it up but it wouldn't surprise me if Schiavone didn't know. He either really didn't or that was a picture-perfect way of acting like he did. I actually hold this in much higher regard than Hogan's "Stick it, brother" promo due to how real this all felt. And no that has nothing to do with it being Hogan. I was out of wrestling around this time, but had just happened to tune in to Nitro that week. Being out of the loop, and not being online at the time, I legitimately thought WWF and WCW were working together. It blew my mind. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) Yeah, no kidding. I wasn't even on the AOL channels yet and the only online service I knew of was Prodigy when going to a house in Pittsburgh. I thought for sure WWF stars were going to invade which made sense when WCW had to course correct in lieu of the lawsuits. But man I was fantasy booking like a motherfucker which was heavily fueled by the likes of PWI. Edited March 15, 2022 by NikoBaltimore 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 One thing about Hall that I've picked up on in the last few years is that he may have the most well-adjusted view of the business of anyone who's had his amount of success. I mean his view of how people in the pro wrestling business "should" handle it. He seemed to strike a good balance between treating it like a business and getting the most out of it for yourself and giving back to the fans/younger wrestlers. He was cutthroat in the way that he made sure he got paid, but was always giving in ways that many of his peers were not. In fact, there's probably an argument to be made that if Hall had been more protective of his spot, he'd be viewed as an even bigger start nowadays. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyChamp Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) I wasn’t a fan of Hall losing to Hectar Garza then Chris Jericho (in the middle of his heel turn wtf...so dumb). It was obviously WCW just trying to copy old WWF thing number 4000 and it didn’t accomplish jack. That was me rooting for WCW vs WWF. Forgetting who I was rooting for now that it’s over though, here’s why it was awesome. Hall was just like do a job? Like lose? Ok. Because I can do that and still be great. Meanwhile his pal is busy booking himself to be champion. I hope he’s learned now that heart attacks aren’t something to joke about btw. Hogan, Warrior, Savage who went crazy there at the end. This was all going on at the same time. Hall’s mere return was the main event of a ppv somewhere in the middle of all that and how did that end? He did the job. This will sound like I’m laying it on to thick and I can’t prove it but I also believe Hall never lost sight of 1 of the basic things about wrestling that wasn’t repeated enough. Every now and then somebody would up and drop this on a radio show or something but not often. I’ll quote or paraphrase Saturn who was 1 of the few to mention it. I say paraphrase because I don’t remember it exactly but it was something like “anybody who complains about losing a fight that isn’t real is a fucking pussy.” I think Hall knew that, and even got a kick out of it with his almost Curt Hennig type overselling, his comedy relief, and his 9000 TV jobs lol! Edited March 15, 2022 by BloodyChamp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_K Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 There are no characters like Hall in the business today. Effortlessly cool. Effortless flow. Effortless characterisation. He lived the role. No smarky nods; no carnyness; no nods to “match ratings” and all that silliness. True great. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I was at WM 10 and I'll never forget seeing that ladder match live. Everyone loved Razor when i was growing up. He really was effortlessly cool and there will never be another him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Tana paying tribute at today's show. 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Apropos of nothing, ELP's drip is fantastic. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) This one is rough. I don’t know how to put it into words. I grew up watching Scott on TV from WCW to WWE to TNA and everywhere in between. It took me years to realize how good Scott really was as his personal issues were interfering with his professional performance when I first saw him. It was when ESPN Classics started airing the old AWA show, and I saw a young almost unrecognizable Scott Hall teaming up with Curt Hennig that I started to see it. Then you watch the Razor Ramon run and you realize why the guy was considered one of the best ever. Dude got it. He knew how to work. He was also unselfish, understood his position and was more than happy to put people over hell at the height of the nWo’s run he put over Chris Jericho and Hector Garza. I’m happy Scott got clean and was able to rebuild his reputation over the last 8 or so years. This is a loss the man was a wealth of knowledge go on YouTube and watch shoot clips the man is teaching lessons he got it and he wasn’t afraid to share it. Edited March 15, 2022 by Web Conn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Pete said: Tana paying tribute at today's show. Love me my Hiroshi Tanahashi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Go watch this! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 here's a match that Scott Hall might have referred to during his Ladder Match watchalong with Shawn Michaels (it's not on Cagematch): 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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