Elsalvajeloco Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 8 hours ago, AxB said: But a few short years later, when they were starting the Austin vs McMahon angle and Austin was talking about how there was a Conspiracy against him, and Vince goes on TV and says "I think he's been watching too many... (goes blank, then suddenly remembers) Oliver Stone (!! He looks so proud!) movies". And the audience doesn't get the JFK reference because if you say Oliver Stone movies in 99, they think Natural Born Killers and Platoon. They did the Waylon Mercy thing like 4 years after the Scorsese version and 30 plus years after the original. For him to get Oliver Stone and be able to connect the dots is at least progressive. However, I would say JFK was still relevant when Austin vs. McMahon was going on. Platoon was not too long after he wrote Scarface and Midnight Express. Hell, if you told Vince the team he was doing the NWA parody of was named after a movie, he probably would have no idea what you meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 (edited) Vince probably purposefully ignores today's movies because he remembers the day when you could go to the theater and get 2 tickets, a large popcorn, 2 drinks AND some candy all for a dollar. Vince is a lot less Mr. Burns and more Grandpa Simpson these days I imagine. Edited June 30 by BrianS81177 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Great Justice Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Clean shaven, short hair, articulate Otis surely landed a job at Park, Park, Park and Park. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 2 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said: They did the Waylon Mercy thing like 4 years after the Scorsese version and 30 plus years after the original. For him to get Oliver Stone and be able to connect the dots is at least progressive. However, I would say JFK was still relevant when Austin vs. McMahon was going on. Hell, Maffew is still getting mileage out of "Back, and to the left ... back, and to the left ..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Otis definitely needs to lose the hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 4 hours ago, Peck said: Didn't Vince just go to a Dave Chappelle show? If we see a black NXT member called up to Raw as a blind white supremacist we'll know whose stamp was all over that one. It was a Donnell Rawlings (Ashy Larry) show, but yeah, the point stands. 2 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said: Platoon was not too long after he wrote Scarface and Midnight Express. Hell, if you told Vince the team he was doing the NWA parody of was named after a movie, he probably would have no idea what you meant. I'm sure you're right and I'm glad you mentioned Scarface, because we should never forget that Vince had no clue Scott Hall was doing a Tony Montana impersonation for Razor Ramon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 hour ago, For Great Justice said: Clean shaven, short hair, articulate Otis surely landed a job at Park, Park, Park and Park. Put him in a plaid shirt and he could do an early-seasons Dan Conner gimmick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 I debated posting this in the Network thread but fuck it since everyone yells about stupid shit anyway The WWE finished announcing its 50 Greatest Tag Teams List Before everyone looks and talks about how the list has no credibility - a few things to know (besides it being a WWE list) It was JUST WWF/WWE teams from the last 50 years (no WCW or ECW teams or at least their tenures weren't considered. They got a separate segment) No women teams (They also got a separate segment) The way the list was ranked was by looking at the title reigns, the longevity and the cultural impact they had. Anyway - here is the list (Spoilers just for size) Spoiler The list of top 50 WWE tag teams is: 50. The Bushwhackers 49. Too Cool 48. The Quebecers 47. Smoking Gunns 46. Strikeforce 45. The Headshrinkers 44. Kane & X-PAC 43. Batista & Ric Flair 42. MNM 41. Nasty Boys 40. Rated RKO 39. Paul London and Brian Kendrick 38. DIY 37. World’s Greatest Tag Team 36. Money Inc. 35. Chris Jericho and The Big Show 34. Natural Disasters 33. The Street Profits 32. Jack and Gerald Brisco 31. The Bludgeon Brothers/Luke Harper and Erick Rowan 30. British Bulldog and Owen Hart. 29. John Morrison and The Miz. 28. The Bar 27. Team Hell No 26. Nikolai Volkoff and The Iron Sheik 25. Los Guerreros 24. The APA 23. The Blackjacks 22. The Shield 21. DX (Shawn Michaels and Triple H) 20. The Undisputed Era 19. The Soul Patrol (Rocky Johnson and Tony Atlas) 18. Professor Toru Tanaka and Mr. Fuji 17. The Steiner Brothers 16. The Rock N’ Sock Connection 15. The Wild Samoans 14. The Rockers 13. The Mega Powers 12. The Valiant Brothers 11. Demolition 10. The British Bulldogs 9. The Brothers of Destruction 8. The New Age Outlaws 7. The Usos 6. The Legion of Doom 5. The Dudley Boyz 4. Edge & Christian 3. Hart Foundation 2. The Hardy Boyz 1. The New Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 30 Author Share Posted June 30 Top Spot not surprising. Surprised no Graham Brothers or Petez/Rocca, even at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 No Dream Team? What the fuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 24 minutes ago, odessasteps said: Surprised no Graham Brothers or Petez/Rocca, even at the bottom. You totally missed the "in the last 50 years" part right? Heck and the Grahams didn't even go into the WWF Hall of Fame together 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 The Valiant Brothers seem weirdly high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE CONQUISTADORS GODDAMMIT?????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Just now, sabremike said: WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE CONQUISTADORS GODDAMMIT?????? They are right there at #4 and #2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 30 Author Share Posted June 30 5 minutes ago, RIPPA said: You totally missed the "in the last 50 years" part right? Heck and the Grahams didn't even go into the WWF Hall of Fame together I figured it was probably something like not including WWWF teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo Necro Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 I’ll say this for a WWE list there’s not many names I think are missing and I generally think it makes sense. Despite the aforementioned oddly placed Valiant Brothers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morganti Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 It is interesting to see who is represented in more than one team too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 (edited) Killer Bees, Rougeaus and Adonis/Murdoch are the most glaring omissions for me. Demolition should be top 5. Hart Foundation are too high. British Bulldogs too low. There are too many very short-lived tag teams in the list (Rock 'n Sock, Jeri-Show, Batista/Flair, X-Pac Kane, Team Hell No) EDIT: No Brain Busters? That's shocking. Edited June 30 by Happ Hazzard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 27 minutes ago, Happ Hazzard said: EDIT: No Brain Busters? That's shocking. Arn and Tully were specifically mentioned in the segment they did on WCW/ECW teams And remember - they were in the WWF barely a year and since longevity was one of the factors considered, it is easy to see why they were left off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordberg Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 I will never ever forgive them for leaving off Holy Demon Army, Miracle Violence Combination, and the Florida Brothers!! Yes, I read all of @RIPPA's original post very carefully. Why do you ask? Real talk: I'm pleasantly surprised to see LOD ranked so highly, considering the criteria. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Dammit - hit reply too early Remember - the Killer Bees never were tag champs in the WWF and title reigns were stated as a factor so it is easy to see why some of those other teams got in over them I mean considering they talk about "cultural relevance" as a factor too - it is easy to see why Rock N Sock would get in over a lot of teams (And the WWE LOVES to think Evolution was way more important than it actually was so Batista/Flair also makes sense) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 The Bodydonnas got robbed! Also, I preferred Owen Hart's team with Yokozuna to his team with the Bulldog, but I'm probably in the minority there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 14 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Arn and Tully were specifically mentioned in the segment they did on WCW/ECW teams And remember - they were in the WWF barely a year and since longevity was one of the factors considered, it is easy to see why they were left off The Steiners were there for about the same length of time. And I would would say that the Brain Busters WWF run was more successful even though they only won the belts once compared to three times for the Steiners. Just because they ended Demolition's 16 month title reign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notoriusvig Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 (edited) Cultural impact? Like, wrestling culture, or American culture? What does that mean? I'm saying the same thing I say whenever they do a list like this, the Demos should be higher. Jesus, if it's just WWE stuff, Demos should be higher than LOD, IMO. Who the hells makes these? Anyways, I did a thing today. I spent $400 on 100 issues of the Observer from 1988 and 1989. Did I do a stupid thing? Some guy on Reddit summarizes some of these but I'm hoping there's more in them than that stuff. I'm not sure they'll ever be on the F4W site, or at least not until they get past 2007 or so. Edited June 30 by notoriusvig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Technically, JFK was a 1990s movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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