Guest Edwin Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 Another round of Gulak and Bryan classics, please. Also, Riddle is rumored of moving to SmackDown on Friday. Let me already fantasy book him teaming up with Bryan and Gulak against the Artist Collective.
Curt McGirt Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 I am shocked -- SHOCKED -- that an angry-looking white dude with a patchy beard and a Final Fantasy poster on his wall was caught saying something shitty about a female wrestler. Shocked, I tells ya! Anyway, something I was thinking about, is there another personality in wrestling that's gotten a better reevaluation over the years than Dusty Rhodes? For years he was seen as the guy who buried Flair and did terrible commentary, but ever since NXT everything came up roses. Everyone even likes the commentary now (as do I, minus the NWO vs. WCW bullshit that everyone was guilty of). It's not often that this happens, as shown by the Ultimo conversation above. 1
Curt McGirt Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 Oh man, "CUT THE LEG" just killed me. I'm surprised PCO didn't moonsault or cannonball off the car onto the guy. 1
odessasteps Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 22 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: I am shocked -- SHOCKED -- that an angry-looking white dude with a patchy beard and a Final Fantasy poster on his wall was caught saying something shitty about a female wrestler. Shocked, I tells ya! Anyway, something I was thinking about, is there another personality in wrestling that's gotten a better reevaluation over the years than Dusty Rhodes? For years he was seen as the guy who buried Flair and did terrible commentary, but ever since NXT everything came up roses. Everyone even likes the commentary now (as do I, minus the NWO vs. WCW bullshit that everyone was guilty of). It's not often that this happens, as shown by the Ultimo conversation above. I'd think some of has to do with his passing away at an early age. I think a decent number of people will still point out his faults as a Booker in the later years of JCP. I think the commentary thing is more nostalgia than anything, similar to opinions on Gorillas commentary. 1
SorceressKnight Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 1 hour ago, odessasteps said: I'd think some of has to do with his passing away at an early age. I think a decent number of people will still point out his faults as a Booker in the later years of JCP. Well, it kind of ties to the "did NXT make any gamechangers or not?" thing. With the booking, it seems like Dusty's NXT stuff was a throwback to the glory days of wrestling, when everyone had some character that wasn't "I'm a great wrestler and I'm out here to put on the best match on the card." "I am also a great wrestler and I'm out here to put on the great match on the card." "I deeply respect how good you are. Let's fight, and that will be the best match on the card." "No, I'm also a great wrestler, and my match with this other person I deeply respect will be the best match on the card." "Then next week, me and this guy will fight you and that guy, and that tag team match will be the best match on the card." "And that will give me and this other person a chance to fight, and that will be the best match on the card", etc. etc. It kind of says something that when NXT seemed to lose its fizz can be so connected to when Dusty died that you can virtually point directly where the sea change of "NXT gives wrestlers gimmicks and lets those characters develop into something special" and "NXT hires all the best indie wrestlers and has them just put on matches for matches'' sake. 1 1
odessasteps Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 I thought Dusty was in charge of the Promo classes and not "the booker" per se. Need to get the scoop from Naylor on this one.
BurningBeard Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said: is there another personality in wrestling that's gotten a better reevaluation over the years than Dusty Rhodes? From the vitriol of the IWC as the face of Raw during the bland split in 2002 to being everyone’s darling for what he built with NXT up to 2018ish, Triple H was definitely in contention. I get the impression it’s reverted back again in recent years though EDIT: I was going to fix that typo but it sums up the period perfectly to me... Edited May 26, 2020 by BurningBeard 4
Matt D Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 I started seeing out FCW in 2009/10 or whenever because Dusty was on commentary. That was the big draw for me. 1
ChesterCopperpot Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 2 hours ago, odessasteps said: DREW TO AEW NOT CONFIRMED ~! What about Adam Cole?
Craig H Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 Regarding Riddle to Smackdown, Alvarez and Meltzer were somewhat surprised Riddle didn't go to Raw because that's where Heyman is. I think Meltzer then mentioned that Bruce runs Smackdown though and I think that's exactly what's going on here. If you listen to any interview or podcast with Bruce where he talks about who he thinks the next big thing is, Matt Riddle is always the first name out of his mouth. I'm thinking and hoping that this bodes well for Riddle and he doesn't wind up like Ricochet and other can't miss wrestlers who WWE fucked up. So if history shows us anything, it's either Riddle will do very well as long as Vince likes him or Bruce will wind up being on the outs or gone because he's Riddle's biggest cheerleader.
Zakk_Sabbath Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 His girlfriend works there!! What a steaming pile of a non-story. 3
Craig H Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, ChesterCopperpot said: What about Adam Cole? I hate clickbaity shit like this. It happens every time Cole shows up at an AEW afterparty. He's there because Britt is there and there's probably nothing more to it than that. But those SBN sites gotta get their clicks so whatever. 1
odessasteps Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 Will he give up his UNO spot on UUDD? ONLY TIME WILL TELL
Craig H Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 Just now, ChesterCopperpot said: His contract is up in a few months I know that, but he's also been to multiple AEW parties to be with Britt. There's also no indication he's going to leave. He's still the reigning NXT champion, he's HHH's boy, and he's part of the most dominant and longest running group in NXT's history.
Eivion Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Craig H said: So if history shows us anything, it's either Riddle will do very well as long as Vince likes him or Bruce will wind up being on the outs or gone because he's Riddle's biggest cheerleader. Hey now, he could always end up like Roman where Vince likes him and he still does terrible because they have no idea how to book him properly despite it being so damn simple. 19 minutes ago, Craig H said: I know that, but he's also been to multiple AEW parties to be with Britt. There's also no indication he's going to leave. He's still the reigning NXT champion, he's HHH's boy, and he's part of the most dominant and longest running group in NXT's history. So many people forget these people are friends or more and hang out together when they can. Edited May 26, 2020 by Eivion
Casey Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 Britt said on the Unrestricted podcast that WWE didn't allow Cole to attend All In (had to watch her match on his cellphone at the hotel), and only recently allowed him to attend AEW parties/events. And then she said she hope's there is a time in the near future when Adam Cole can come back and work with his "family" IE the Young Bucks. That last bit is probably why people are running wild with the speculation right now, since that podcast was just released last week. 1
Zimbra Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 I'm sorry but I just figured out which one is Adam Cole, Adam Page, and Adam Pearce so you none of them are allowed to move or I'll get confused again. 1 4
Dolfan in NYC Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 59 minutes ago, Craig H said: Regarding Riddle to Smackdown, Alvarez and Meltzer were somewhat surprised Riddle didn't go to Raw because that's where Heyman is. I think Meltzer then mentioned that Bruce runs Smackdown though and I think that's exactly what's going on here. If you listen to any interview or podcast with Bruce where he talks about who he thinks the next big thing is, Matt Riddle is always the first name out of his mouth. I mean, I'd watch Riddle casually kicking Braun's head until it flew off. But I don't know how many people want to follow me on that path. 9
Guest Edwin Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Zimbra said: I'm sorry but I just figured out which one is Adam Cole, Adam Page, and Adam Pearce so you none of them are allowed to move or I'll get confused again. What sucks is the best one one of the three retired and is an agent for WWE.
Casey Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 Mike Rapada was a better NWA Champion than Adam Pearce. 1 4 1
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