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[JonnyLaw]

 

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‘The Acolyte’ Canceled: No Season 2 For Disney+’s ‘Star Wars’ Series

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The story of The Acolyte will not continue, with Lucasfilm opting not to proceed with a second season of the Star Wars offshoot starring Amandla Stenberg, sources tell Deadline.

Word of the decision comes more than a month after the eight-episode first season of the series from creator, director, executive producer and showrunner Leslye Headland wrapped its run on Disney+.

 

[Eivion]

Not surprising. I would be disappointed, but I'm not sure how much it could have improved without a decent amount of changes in the writers' room.

[RandomAct]

The bigger story out of Acolyte not being renewed, is that we are probably just going to be stuck with Lucasfilm taking absolutely zero chances going forward. The lesson Disney will take is that everything has to be tied to the original films or else it won't get a chance to succeed. If the Clone Wars series debuted today, we'd have never seen the conclusion.

[Technico Support]

13 hours ago, RandomAct said:

The bigger story out of Acolyte not being renewed, is that we are probably just going to be stuck with Lucasfilm taking absolutely zero chances going forward. The lesson Disney will take is that everything has to be tied to the original films or else it won't get a chance to succeed. If the Clone Wars series debuted today, we'd have never seen the conclusion.

I don't doubt at all that risk-averse Hollywood would take this as the lesson.  But honestly, Acolyte just was not good.  Take away all the bullshit outrage from the racists/misogynists/most toxic elements of a fanbase, and you still have a disjointed show with maybe one or two good episodes that lost the plot, wasted a great opportunity to tell an interesting story, and really shit the bed.

Also, nobody wants a Sith who looks like an underwear model.  I knew this show was cooked when that dude got out of the water all pouty and dripping with a six pack looking like he spent more time doing crunches than he did studying the eldritch ways of the dark side.

Edited August 21 by Technico Support

[RandomAct]

9 hours ago, Technico Support said:

I don't doubt at all that risk-averse Hollywood would take this as the lesson.  But honestly, Acolyte just was not good.  Take away all the bullshit outrage from the racists/misogynists/most toxic elements of a fanbase, and you still have a disjointed show with maybe one or two good episodes that lost the plot, wasted a great opportunity to tell an interesting story, and really shit the bed.

Also, nobody wants a Sith who looks like an underwear model.  I knew this show was cooked when that dude got out of the water all pouty and dripping with a six pack looking like he spent more time doing crunches than he did studying the eldritch ways of the dark side.

I was higher on the show than a lot of others, but even with the problems the show had, I think it had enough juice for a second season, and a chance for the creators to learn some lessons. It's just frustrating that shows don't get that chance anymore.  Especially with Bob Iger and Disney, whose response to The Marvels performing poorly was to do exactly what we are talking about. I feel like if Andor didn't have connective tissue to the Empire, it would have never gotten greenlit, even with how incredible the show turned out.

[JLSigman]

14 hours ago, Technico Support said:

 

Also, nobody wants a Sith who looks like an underwear model.  I knew this show was cooked when that dude got out of the water all pouty and dripping with a six pack looking like he spent more time doing crunches than he did studying the eldritch ways of the dark side.

LOL Oh come on, maybe hetero dudes don't want that, but there was a LOT of thirst for the character in big parts of the fandom that are usually ignored.

[Eivion]

On 8/21/2024 at 5:19 AM, RandomAct said:

The bigger story out of Acolyte not being renewed, is that we are probably just going to be stuck with Lucasfilm taking absolutely zero chances going forward. The lesson Disney will take is that everything has to be tied to the original films or else it won't get a chance to succeed. If the Clone Wars series debuted today, we'd have never seen the conclusion.

I feel like this is a bit of reach right now considering how well Andor did, the fact that the next new series is seemingly tied to none of the original films, and that there is an entire timeline they have been building up in books & comics (with a game on the way) that also isn't tied the original films as far as we know. Acolyte not doing well sucks, but it failed probably more due to not being good than the culture war bs people dragged it into. I can understand having some worry, but I don't think we are at the sky is falling levels of worry of not getting anything new or different yet. 

6 hours ago, RandomAct said:

I was higher on the show than a lot of others, but even with the problems the show had, I think it had enough juice for a second season, and a chance for the creators to learn some lessons. It's just frustrating that shows don't get that chance anymore.  Especially with Bob Iger and Disney, whose response to The Marvels performing poorly was to do exactly what we are talking about. I feel like if Andor didn't have connective tissue to the Empire, it would have never gotten greenlit, even with how incredible the show turned out.

I get what you're saying, but do you really think the show would have improved? Were the creators taking any of the criticism to heart? Just seems like more often than not most ignore it. I enjoyed the series despite finding it frustrating, but I had little faith a second season would improve things.

[Brandon Bones]

Risk averse for sure.  But it’s an odd way to be these days since so many shows that are highly regarded and successful had either an iffy start in quality or mostly ignored as they built an audience.  A course correction could have saved this show.  My perception of it had much of the show laying track for a future. That world building has value. Plus, you’re already invested this far.  Baffling.

[AxB]

The Acolyte is cancelled, and now nobody will know who that little green guy at the end was, or if he'll be important in the future. 

Word on the street is kids are calling him "Adult Grogu".

[RandomAct]

We already see how the adult pissbabies are reacting to Skeleton Crew.  At the end of the day, Acolyte of course wasn't renewed because the viewership didn't justify the cost, but I do think the viewership can be traced back to the discourse. I imagine that there are a significant number of people who aren't chronically online that go to places like Rotten Tomatoes or whatever to look at a review score. They see something has like a 35% and will be like "no thanks", and have no idea of the review bombing that took place.  I'm willing to be money that Skeleton Crew will get a similar fate on review sites.

So yes, Disney is fully justified in pulling the plug on something that people aren't watching, but the circumstances are really gross.

[Mister TV]

The main reason I didn't watch it was due to ditching Disney+ after one of their price increases, will totally watch it once I rejoin at some point.

[Craig H]

I could only get through two episodes of the Acolyte and gave up because it was boring and sucked. I watched some clips from later in the season and none of that changed my mind.

Sometimes when something doesn’t get renewed there’s not always a conspiracy behind why people didn’t watch it. Sometimes people just don’t watch something because it just isn’t good.

The Pitch Meeting for it summed it up pretty well.

I hope Skeleton Crew is better.

[Craig H]

One last thing…I loved the Force Awakens, I liked the Last Jedi a ton, I love the Mandalorian universe stuff, including the Book of Boba Fett.

But for as much as I liked the first two movies of the new trilogy, those, the final movie, 2/3 of Obi Wan, and the final episode of Ahsoka expose that the worst parts of Star Wars is anything with the Jedi or Sith. I don’t quite understand how or why that even is. If you distill Obi Wan into a 90 minute movie instead of a season of TV where stories repeat 2 or even 3 times then it’s nearly perfect. Ahsoka fumbled the ball at the goal line. I dug all of the Grogu and Luke stuff so much. Everything else involving the Jedi though? It’s needs to be a whole hell of a lot better.

[Technico Support]

On 8/27/2024 at 5:19 AM, RandomAct said:

We already see how the adult pissbabies are reacting to Skeleton Crew.  At the end of the day, Acolyte of course wasn't renewed because the viewership didn't justify the cost, but I do think the viewership can be traced back to the discourse. I imagine that there are a significant number of people who aren't chronically online that go to places like Rotten Tomatoes or whatever to look at a review score. They see something has like a 35% and will be like "no thanks", and have no idea of the review bombing that took place.  I'm willing to be money that Skeleton Crew will get a similar fate on review sites.

So yes, Disney is fully justified in pulling the plug on something that people aren't watching, but the circumstances are really gross.

As someone not chronically online, what’s the toxic fanbase’s problem with Skeleton Crew?

[Craig H]

If I were to wager a guess it's people maybe pissing their pampers because it looks like Goonies X Star Wars.

[Brandon Bones]

On 9/3/2024 at 1:22 PM, Technico Support said:

As someone not chronically online, what’s the toxic fanbase’s problem with Skeleton Crew?

As a diehard… I just can’t give a shit.  If you’re selling doom and gloom.  I’m not buying.